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MTA Bus Operations: Deliveries, Moves & Transfers

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This TOPIC is strictly for bus deliveries, moves & transfers.

Any discussion related to these moves should be done in the MTA Bus Operations: Fleets and Depots and Bus - Random Thoughts threads.

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All I can say about this conversation is wow! ENY Command decides what goes where. Period. TA does NOT want hybrids at EC unless it's absolutely needed. Not because the don't want them or don't like them. TA/ENY does not want them there because the Q50 and Bx23 routes hit high speeds. This is the whole reason they were evaluating a retrofit of every last BusCo OG to diesel configuration. They will NOT be efficient on the route. Not only will the fuel efficiency be decreased, but they need more preventive maintenance as well as bus conditioners.

 

In addition to the many things I do, I am a mechanic and I said years ago it's not a good idea to have hybrids on many routes especially in Queens. The batteries have to be conditioned more than they need to, and this is a known maintenance fact now. TA is not opposed to any buses OTHER than hybrids going there. However there are no buses available now other than RTS as TA decided to put all the Xcelsiors at LG.

 

So again, if EC were to ever get hybrids there would need to be massive maintenance training, and batter conditioners. That's a headache when they can just use RTS until 2018 or they decided to come off some Xcelsiors, or when the next MTA bus order arrives. DOB is ENY and this is there decision. I just state what comes across my desk. They decided to have EC an RTS depot even though they want the 5100's back TA side immediately as soon as they come to a resolution. Period. In the meanwhile, the GM's at each Depot either have major influence or lack there of. It comes down to top management at ENY Command. Since both ENY and Ulmer GM's rejected hybrids when they were first delivered, this clearly sets a precedent..

 

So at the end of the day, sometimes there is a compromise. This is all favored in when fleet assignments are made. I continues to see a few people sleek on topics whic they have limited or no information.

 

FYI MTA surveys all drivers, mechanics, and supervisors on which buses they prefer and why. This is then evaluated, and assignments and transfers are finalized at ENY. However again as I said there is major influence and depots like Michael J Quill, Ulmer Park and East New York tend to get what they want or come to a compromise. It's much more to it than many realize.

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All I can say about this conversation is wow! ENY Command decides what goes where. Period. TA does NOT want hybrids at EC unless it's absolutely needed. Not because the don't want them or don't like them. TA/ENY does not want them there because the Q50 and Bx23 routes hit high speeds. This is the whole reason they were evaluating a retrofit of every last BusCo OG to diesel configuration. They will NOT be efficient on the route. Not only will the fuel efficiency be decreased, but they need more preventive maintenance as well as bus conditioners.

 

In addition to the many things I do, I am a mechanic and I said years ago it's not a good idea to have hybrids on many routes especially in Queens. The batteries have to be conditioned more than they need to, and this is a known maintenance fact now. TA is not opposed to any buses OTHER than hybrids going there. However there are no buses available now other than RTS as TA decided to put all the Xcelsiors at LG.

 

So again, if EC were to ever get hybrids there would need to be massive maintenance training, and batter conditioners. That's a headache when they can just use RTS until 2018 or they decided to come off some Xcelsiors, or when the next MTA bus order arrives. DOB is ENY and this is there decision. I just state what comes across my desk. They decided to have EC an RTS depot even though they want the 5100's back TA side immediately as soon as they come to a resolution. Period. In the meanwhile, the GM's at each Depot either have major influence or lack there of. It comes down to top management at ENY Command. Since both ENY and Ulmer GM's rejected hybrids when they were first delivered, this clearly sets a precedent..

 

So at the end of the day, sometimes there is a compromise. This is all favored in when fleet assignments are made. I continues to see a few people sleek on topics whic they have limited or no information.

 

FYI MTA surveys all drivers, mechanics, and supervisors on which buses they prefer and why. This is then evaluated, and assignments and transfers are finalized at ENY. However again as I said there is major influence and depots like Michael J Quill, Ulmer Park and East New York tend to get what they want or come to a compromise. It's much more to it than many realize.

Thanks for YOUR 2cents

As sideways as it might have come across I see the point of the post

But just to defend those who wouldn't have access to the information you have or someway somehow the information gets mixed up while being passed on

Plz DO REMEMBER this is s FORUM where we share what we know... Right or Wrong it's worth being shared

I would appreciate however that if someone is wrong instead of trying to make them feel some type of way by talking down slick talk or just that sideways stuff... KILL all of that noise and just KEEP IT INFORMATION

If someone is wrong let them know but do it respectfully‼️

I'm watching these posts and if I feel as if someone is coming off sideways I'm pressing the issue from here on out

I have an inbox and my phone works fine....

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Thanks for YOUR 2cents

As sideways as it might have come across I see the point of the post

But just to defend those who wouldn't have access to the information you have or someway somehow the information gets mixed up while being passed on

Plz DO REMEMBER this is s FORUM where we share what we know... Right or Wrong it's worth being shared

I would appreciate however that if someone is wrong instead of trying to make them feel some type of way by talking down slick talk or just that sideways stuff... KILL all of that noise and just KEEP IT INFORMATION

If someone is wrong let them know but do it respectfully‼️

I'm watching these posts and if I feel as if someone is coming off sideways I'm pressing the issue from here on out

I have an inbox and my phone works fine....

 

Personally I'm tired of saying the same things over and over again, and that post was directed at someone specifically since they think they know everything.... Sounds like you took something personal that has nothing to do with you. People at times act like they can't read or just want to challenge whatever I say because they have nothing else better to do.

 

My whole point in the matter is not about making anyone feel any type of way, but I'm quite annoyed with people coming at me questioning my information. So in defense of what you said, whenever someone comes at me "sideways" I'm going to respond however I feel fit. If information is wrong, it will be corrected. We have a standard here when it comes to accurate information. 

 

There is a difference in one sharing what they know versus sharing what they think they know. This may be a public forum, but it is privately operated. This information is also a privilege. Some seem to think they have a right to this information, or they are entitled to it.

 

Now again, that post was directly specifically to someone who always wants to challenge me, and I will come at him sideways anytime he does it to me. Respect is earned, I expect the same. Period.

 

Carry on.

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