realizm Posted March 13, 2013 Share #2626 Posted March 13, 2013 (edited) This is probably going to make me come across as a paranoid lunatic, but does anyone else find the "Oculus" art installation at the WTC complex creepy? I think New World Order and the Illuminati on the dollar bill every time I see that. This: (not my pics) As a parallell to this: Translated: "New Order of the Ages"...... That bugs me. Edited March 13, 2013 by realizm 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ttcsubwayfan Posted March 13, 2013 Share #2627 Posted March 13, 2013 I don't think there's any conspiracy associated with the artwork (I don't roll that way), I just think it's creepy as hell. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
realizm Posted March 13, 2013 Share #2628 Posted March 13, 2013 (edited) I don't think there's any conspiracy associated with the artwork (I don't roll that way), I just think it's creepy as hell. Well in general it IS creepy. I thought I was the only one who was sort of unnerved by that artwork and the message behind it, if there is one. Artwork always carries a message, it is a form of expression. But that oculus art, makes me wonder sometimes with my wild imagination. Anyway whatever, let's move on from that particular. Rest in peace older Westinghouse motor system on the R32/62A/68. I just love the full howling so much! Mind as well post these from YouTube: I get a kick of the humming traction motors of the R32's, and the R62's. I grew up riding these cars. I'll miss them when they're gone too. The noise of the R142's and the R143/R160's and it's traction motors, superb cars that they are (I mean the R160's cars can hit 60MPH+? Not bad...) does get tiresome to the ears after a while..... Edited March 13, 2013 by realizm 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BM5 via Woodhaven Posted March 14, 2013 Share #2629 Posted March 14, 2013 Well for you foamers, don't put your party hats on, but the might alternate runs between 96/2 and Astoria when SAS opens. I also suppose the will possibly have a headway increase as well. Just a possibility. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grand Concourse Posted March 14, 2013 Share #2630 Posted March 14, 2013 Too early to say and why would they have 2 Q trains for? That will confuse people. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Railfan Posted March 14, 2013 Share #2631 Posted March 14, 2013 (edited) Rest in peace older Westinghouse motor system on the R32/62A/68. I just love the full howling so much! Mind as well post these from YouTube: <video links removed from reply> (0:00 - 0:23) You might like the vid i posted Edited March 14, 2013 by Mr Railfan 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BM5 via Woodhaven Posted March 14, 2013 Share #2632 Posted March 14, 2013 Too early to say and why would they have 2 Q trains for? That will confuse people. They could do that. I guess we'll have to wait and see. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ttcsubwayfan Posted March 14, 2013 Share #2633 Posted March 14, 2013 Well in general it IS creepy. I thought I was the only one who was sort of unnerved by that artwork and the message behind it, if there is one. Artwork always carries a message, it is a form of expression. But that oculus art, makes me wonder sometimes with my wild imagination. Anyway whatever, let's move on from that particular. Why? It's quite an interesting topic. The nycsubway.org entry for "Oculus" reads thus: Oculus consists of 301 mosaic panels by artists Kristin Jones, Andrew Ginzel and Rinaldo Piras. The project presents the eyes of three hundred individual New Yorkers translated from a photographic study conducted by Jones/Ginzel into stone mosaic by the classically trained Piras. The centerpiece of the work is an elliptical glass and stone mosaic floor, with a magnificent micro mosaic eye at the center of an ultramarine vortex with the image of the City of New York woven into the picture. And I'll take their word for it. I know a certain tin foil hat wielding member would b*tch at me for being an ignoramus and a dunce who blindly accepts whatever society tells them, but I fail to see how an art installation in a f**king subway station will lead to world domination, so I stand by what I said. Regardless, I am not a fan of the piece. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alekr Posted March 14, 2013 Share #2634 Posted March 14, 2013 Interesting that the MTA changed the and the from Service Change to "Sandy Reroute". That is much better than "Service Change" 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R188 7857 Posted March 14, 2013 Share #2635 Posted March 14, 2013 Interesting that the MTA changed the and the from Service Change to "Sandy Reroute". That is much better than "Service Change" yeah. it won't really confuse people between a problem that would be fixed fast or a long-term suspension/reroute. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
realizm Posted March 14, 2013 Share #2636 Posted March 14, 2013 (edited) Let's get back to discussing R32's and general subway transit. As I was trying to discuss before I was interrupted. Rest in peace older Westinghouse motor system on the R32/62A/68. I just love the full howling so much! Mind as well post these from YouTube: Well in general it IS creepy. I thought I was the only one who was sort of unnerved by that artwork and the message behind it, if there is one. Artwork always carries a message, it is a form of expression. But that oculus art, makes me wonder sometimes with my wild imagination. Anyway whatever, let's move on from that particular. I get a kick of the humming traction motors of the R32's, and the R62's. I grew up riding these cars. I'll miss them when they're gone too. The noise of the R142's and the R143/R160's and it's traction motors, superb cars that they are (I mean the R160's cars can hit 60MPH+? Not bad...) does get tiresome to the ears after a while..... You might like the vid i posted I really like these R32 cars. Timeless. 39 years in change these particular stainless steel 60' SMEE's have been servicing New Yorkers and performing superbly. They've earned the nickname 'Brightliners' coined for these cars we all know this. But I understand according to a book that I actually owned from the transit museum as a kid when my dad took me there, entitled "They Moved The Millions" By Jack Davis, that T/Os back then called them 'Jack Rabbits'. Because of the really strong pick up on speed. Notice how they literally "kick" when the T/O starts the train and revs up the traction motors. These GE 1257E1 or Westinghouse 1447JR traction motors are timeless as it set the standard for the rest of the SMEE fleets that succeeded these fine trains, the R38's, R40s, and last but not least the R42's and even the R62's after the initial problems starting with the R44's with their design as designers utilized SMEE technology on the R62's instead of what was utilized on the R44's. I never heard yet and I guess never will ever hear again of cars with such an impressive record of service. The R160's may come close, also excellent cars as the MTA designers in cooperation with Alstom and Kawasaki really worked hard on this from lessons learned from the bugs found with the R142's but again these R32's are timeless. And they PERFORM. And that humming sound.... Now that's power that we hear in those traction motors. They can max out in speed from 0 to 55 MPH easy. Again notice that heck of a "kick" when the T/O revs up the motors and picks up speed from being stationary in a station. Growing up riding these trains for the longest since birth that has been my observations. Their MDBF's? Well sure better then some of even the NTT's even (the R142's) in recent memory. Now that's something to consider. This is why I really dig these excellent cars. Edited March 14, 2013 by realizm 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RollOver Posted March 14, 2013 Share #2637 Posted March 14, 2013 You might like the vid i posted Yeah I seen that video already on your YouTube before. I actually do like it a bit. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quill Depot Posted March 14, 2013 Share #2638 Posted March 14, 2013 I gotta get one of those howling motor trains! 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Around the Horn Posted March 14, 2013 Share #2639 Posted March 14, 2013 Anyone else see that R160 train? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LRG Posted March 14, 2013 Share #2640 Posted March 14, 2013 So I've been doing some thinking...with the B44-SBS going into full swing within a year and the northbound routing of the bus being relocated onto Rogers Avenue, I've been wondering about the Bedford Avenue/Arlington Place exit for the Nostrand Avenue station on the and the . Are they going to re-open it for the B44-SBS? I would be shocked if they didn't seeing that there will be a Fulton Street stop for the B44 in both directions, and the northbould stop will now be at Fulton/Bedford. Obviously it is unnecessary now since the northbound and southbound B44 stop at Fulton and Nostrand Avenues, and there isn't a Limited stop at Fulton/Bedford, but that will soon change. Will the MTA re-open the western exit for the station? I think it is warranted. Thoughts? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Around the Horn Posted March 14, 2013 Share #2641 Posted March 14, 2013 So I've been doing some thinking...with the B44-SBS going into full swing within a year and the northbound routing of the bus being relocated onto Rogers Avenue, I've been wondering about the Bedford Avenue/Arlington Place exit for the Nostrand Avenue station on the and the . Are they going to re-open it for the B44-SBS? I would be shocked if they didn't seeing that there will be a Fulton Street stop for the B44 in both directions, and the northbould stop will now be at Fulton/Bedford. Obviously it is unnecessary now since the northbound and southbound B44 stop at Fulton and Nostrand Avenues, and there isn't a Limited stop at Fulton/Bedford, but that will soon change. Will the MTA re-open the western exit for the station? I think it is warranted. Thoughts? It would certainly help transfers... 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R62AR33 Posted March 14, 2013 Share #2642 Posted March 14, 2013 (edited) Interesting that the MTA changed the and the from Service Change to "Sandy Reroute". That is much better than "Service Change" Its good though that the did that so that the passengers can know why the routes changed. Edited March 14, 2013 by R62AR33 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
realizm Posted March 14, 2013 Share #2643 Posted March 14, 2013 Anyone else see that R160 train? What? Man can never seem to catch one, dang. *kicks the dust* 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Around the Horn Posted March 15, 2013 Share #2644 Posted March 15, 2013 What? Man can never seem to catch one, dang. *kicks the dust* it passed thru Prospect around 5:10ish pm last car was 9642(i think) 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Culver Posted March 15, 2013 Share #2645 Posted March 15, 2013 Anyone else see that R160 train? Did it start as a train or was it a re-routed ? I was on a rerouted R160 about a year ago, where the conductor changed it to programming at B'way-Lafayette since the train got rerouted due to a problem on the Culver. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alejr88 Posted March 15, 2013 Share #2646 Posted March 15, 2013 it passed thru Prospect around 5:10ish pm last car was 9642(i think) Most likely a rerouted since that car and it's mates all belong to JYD. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Around the Horn Posted March 15, 2013 Share #2647 Posted March 15, 2013 Most likely a rerouted since that car and it's mates all belong to JYD. Thanks for the expanation... 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
realizm Posted March 15, 2013 Share #2648 Posted March 15, 2013 Guess that was definitely a rare opportunity. Won't see rerouted R160's to the Bronx again for a minute. (Assuming it was Manhattan-bound) 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Around the Horn Posted March 15, 2013 Share #2649 Posted March 15, 2013 Guess that was definitely a rare opportunity. Won't see rerouted R160's to the Bronx again for a minute. (Assuming it was Manhattan-bound) I saw it in Brooklyn. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
realizm Posted March 15, 2013 Share #2650 Posted March 15, 2013 (edited) I saw it in Brooklyn. I know. I meant that in the sense that I was assuming that the R160 you saw on the Brighton line @ Prospect Park was heading to Manhattan along it's normal route up the CPW, Grand Concourse, etc. I don't know which direction the was headed. Perhaps back to CI Yard in revenue service? Edited March 15, 2013 by realizm 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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