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[cl94]

the line is impassable too. Only the and are unaffected

 

 

Actually, if you look at this track map (http://www.nycsubway.org/perl/caption.pl?/img/trackmap/detail-47-63.png) you can see the express track can be used to access the track to 57th Street-6th Avenue and the 63rd Street line.  That connection has NO interaction with the junction you are talking about, so the and can switch to the express track AND go to the track without dealing with the junction in that situation (The when it terminated at 57th/6th could do this as well)..

 

I HATE to say this, but Wally is correct. 63rd Street connects to the express track as well. How do you think the went up there in the 80s and 90s? There would be a switching nightmare at 34th Street, but it's easy enough to have locals run on the express track for 20 blocks.

[BxM4Woodlawn]

I HATE to say this, but Wally is correct. 63rd Street connects to the express track as well. How do you think the went up there in the 80s and 90s? There would be a switching nightmare at 34th Street, but it's easy enough to have locals run on the express track for 20 blocks.

speaking of that I miss the running up there

[Wallyhorse]

I HATE to say this, but Wally is correct. 63rd Street connects to the express track as well. How do you think the went up there in the 80s and 90s? There would be a switching nightmare at 34th Street, but it's easy enough to have locals run on the express track for 20 blocks.

Definitely a nightmare, but sending a few s via the can solve that.

Edited June 10, 2014 by Wallyhorse

[MTA Dude]

Next, an electrical failure shuts down power at the 59th St-Lex Ave Station.

trains affected

  : Trains run in two sections between Coney Island and 57th Street, and between Queensboro Plaza and Astoria (One or the other)

: Trains runs via the between 57th Street and 36th Street.

: Trains run in two sections between 86th Street and Woodlawn, and between Grand Central and Utica Avenue, via Local.

: Trains run only between Dyre Avenue and Times Square on the line.

: Trains run only between Pelham Bay Park and 86th Street.

: Suspended.

All: Expect longer wait times and delays as train service will be reduced, and those trains that are trapped will be delayed.

[YankeesPwnMets]

Situation: Stalled train on the Brooklyn bound track due to track fire. Because of the ongoing evacuation and FDNY activity, the Queens bound track is not usable to terminate trains coming from Brooklyn. trains must bypass Essex St as well.

[CDTA]

Situation: Stalled train on the Brooklyn bound track due to track fire. Because of the ongoing evacuation and FDNY activity, the Queens bound track is not usable to terminate trains coming from Brooklyn. trains must bypass Essex St as well.

 

Weekend:

Via

To Chambers St

(M)'s do not abide by their schedule, with trains spending the larger percentage of layover time at Metropolitan

 

High frequency time:

No service 2nd Ave-York Ave, w/ shuttle buses replacing service

[FamousNYLover]

Situation: Stalled train on the Brooklyn bound track due to track fire. Because of the ongoing evacuation and FDNY activity, the Queens bound track is not usable to terminate trains coming from Brooklyn. trains must bypass Essex St as well.

For safety, it's better not to pass through Essex St.

For my replied.

: Trains run on between West 4th and Jay Sts in both direction.

: Skip-stop, express service and suspended. Service terminates at Marcy Av.

: Trains run in 2 section.

1. Between Metropolitan Av-Middle Village and Myrtle Av-Broadway.

2. Between Lower East Side-2nd Av station and Forest Hill-71st Av.

 

Free shuttle buses operates us follows.

1. Shuttle Buses operates between Marcy Av and Chambers Sts, serving Delancey-Essex St & Bowery.

2. Shuttle Buses operates between Myrtle Av-Broadway and Lower East Side-2nd Av, serving Delancey-Essex St.

During this time, special overnight B39 bus service will operates between Marcy Av and Delancey-Essex St Stations.

Edited June 11, 2014 by FamousNYLover

[FamousNYLover]

Due to speedy Chinatown Bus hit the crash into pole that supports 74th St-Broadway Station collasped, and also causing cave in to Jackson Heights-Roosevelt Av. Affects trains, along with buses, Q32, Q33, Q47, Q49, Q53, Q70 buses, etc.

can't pass these stations.

All streets surrendered by 69th St, 37th Av, 76th St, Woodside Av are closed and BQE Northbound closed from Queens Blvd/69th St to BQE Exit 40-37th Av.

Please note freight train cannot cross near 74th St-Broadway/Jackson Heights-Roosevelt Av Station.

Edited June 11, 2014 by FamousNYLover

[Wallyhorse]

Situation: Stalled train on the Brooklyn bound track due to track fire. Because of the ongoing evacuation and FDNY activity, the Queens bound track is not usable to terminate trains coming from Brooklyn. trains must bypass Essex St as well.

I'm going to for this purpose say this is far enough away from Essex Street that trains can run through there, but not stop:

 

Rush hours:

and all skip Essex Street.  Special block transfer at Park Row to/from the M15 and M101, M102 and M103 and at Broadway/Lafayette to/from the M1 and M6.

 

runs as follows:

Coney Island trains run via the between Coney Island and Court Square and stop at Queens Plaza before resuming normal service.

Manhattan trains start at 2nd Avenue OR Chambers Street station.

ALL trains run express to 179th Street.

 

and trains are ALL extended to 179th Street and make all local stops.

 

Weekend:

stops at 14th & 23rd Streets

runs via the Cranberry Street tunnel between Jay Street and West 4th

and skip Essex Street

is extended to West 4th Street and uses the express tunnel to terminate.

[FamousNYLover]

I would not sent via stations stops because it can properly open only 6-4 cars which could be dangerous.

 

I remember when I got on 1st car of Coney Island-bound on R46, some homeless feces were on 1st car, so after good samitran told the train operator, he closed 1st car and we were transfer to 2nd car. I helped T/O that 1st car was closed until my stop 57th St-6th Av.

Edited June 11, 2014 by FamousNYLover

[darrylbaniaga38]

Due to speedy Chinatown Bus hit the crash into pole that supports 74th St-Broadway Station collasped, and also causing cave in to Jackson Heights-Roosevelt Av. Affects trains, along with buses, Q32, Q33, Q47, Q49, Q53, Q70 buses, etc.

can't pass these stations.

All streets surrendered by 69th St, 37th Av, 76th St, Woodside Av are closed and BQE Northbound closed from Queens Blvd/69th St to BQE Exit 40-37th Av.

Please note freight train cannot cross near 74th St-Broadway/Jackson Heights-Roosevelt Av Station.

 

Two sections: Times Square to Woodside, 82 St to Main St.  Note that trains may have to wrong rail in both sections.

WTC to Queens Plaza

Two sections: Coney Island to 21 St, Forest hills to Jamaica-179. Select trains run to Jamaica Center.

Middle Village to either 21 St, 57 St/6 Av, or Chambers St. Dependent on ridership.

To 57 St/7 Av.

Shuttles operate on both local tracks from Queens Plaza to 65 St and Forest Hills to Elmhurst Av

Shuttle buses provided.

NYCT and MTA buses reroutes accordingly.

LIRR Honors fares from Penn Station to Jamaica.

Expect Delays on all affected services.

[TrainFanInfinity]

Due to speedy Chinatown Bus hit the crash into pole that supports 74th St-Broadway Station collasped, and also causing cave in to Jackson Heights-Roosevelt Av. Affects trains, along with buses, Q32, Q33, Q47, Q49, Q53, Q70 buses, etc.

can't pass these stations.

All streets surrendered by 69th St, 37th Av, 76th St, Woodside Av are closed and BQE Northbound closed from Queens Blvd/69th St to BQE Exit 40-37th Av.

Please note freight train cannot cross near 74th St-Broadway/Jackson Heights-Roosevelt Av Station.

 

: No service b/w Queensboro Plaza and Flushing-Main Street.

: No service b/w Northern Boulevard and Forest Hills-71st Avenue.

: No service b/w 21st Street-Queensbridge and Forest Hills-71st Avenue.

: No service b/w Chambers Street and Queens Plaza.

: No service b/w 57th Street-7th Avenue and Forest Hills-71st Avenue.

Edited June 11, 2014 by TrainFanInfinity

[YankeesPwnMets]

Weekend:

Via

To Chambers St

(M)'s do not abide by their schedule, with trains spending the larger percentage of layover time at Metropolitan

 

High frequency time:

No service 2nd Ave-York Ave, w/ shuttle buses replacing service

What I would do myself:

Rush hours:

between two sections: Jamaica 179th to 2 Av, Coney Island to Jay St using York St crossover to turn trains

Bus runs between 2 Av and Jay St via Houston, Essex, Canal, Manhattan Bridge, and Flatbush Avenue

Alternating trains from Brooklyn run to Chambers, Metropolitan Ave bound trains bypass Essex

: Give passengers a voucher to ride B39 for free from Marcy Av to Essex St. Place additional buses on B39, including LFSAs

 

Nonpeak

Jamaica 179th to Coney Island via Cranberry

rest would be the same

 

As for Yuki's

: Times Sq to Queensboro. Local buses run via Roosevelt Avenue, making all stops between Roosevelt and Flushing. Limited buses run via Roosevelt Avenue, making stops at 61 St, Junction Blvd, Citi Field and Flushing. Express buses run non stop from Queensboro to Flushing via I-495 and I-678

E: World Trade Center to Queens Plaza, Jamaica Center to Forest Hills. Extra trains are running (or if it's non peak hours)

F: Coney Island to 21 St Queensbridge, Forest Hills to Jamaica 179 St

M: Chambers to Metropolitan via Nassau St Local

R: Bay Ridge 95 St to 57th St-7th Ave

 

Local buses make all stops between Queens Plaza and Forest Hills, buses connect to buses at Queens Plaza

Edited June 11, 2014 by YankeesPwnMets

[CDTA]

What I would do myself:

Rush hours:

between two sections: Jamaica 179th to 2 Av, Coney Island to Jay St using York St crossover to turn trains

Bus runs between 2 Av and Jay St via Houston, Essex, Canal, Manhattan Bridge, and Flatbush Avenue

Alternating trains from Brooklyn run to Chambers, Metropolitan Ave bound trains bypass Essex

: Give passengers a voucher to ride B39 for free from Marcy Av to Essex St. Place additional buses on B39, including LFSAs

 

Nonpeak

Jamaica 179th to Coney Island via Cranberry

rest would be the same

 

 

???? If nonpeak is a weekend, you have to put the somewhere else, because it certainly can't turn around at Essex

Also why does the go to Chambers during the week?

[MTA Dude]

Due to speedy Chinatown Bus hit the crash into pole that supports 74th St-Broadway Station collasped, and also causing cave in to Jackson Heights-Roosevelt Av. Affects trains, along with buses, Q32, Q33, Q47, Q49, Q53, Q70 buses, etc.

can't pass these stations.

All streets surrendered by 69th St, 37th Av, 76th St, Woodside Av are closed and BQE Northbound closed from Queens Blvd/69th St to BQE Exit 40-37th Av.

Please note freight train cannot cross near 74th St-Broadway/Jackson Heights-Roosevelt Av Station.

Runs in two sections:

Between Times Square and Queensboro Plaza.

Between Flushing and 111th Street.

 

Runs in two sections:

Between WTC and Queens Plaza.

Between Forest Hills and Jamaica Center with limited service.

Runs in two sections:

Between Coney Island to via the to Queens Plaza.

Between Forest Hills and Jamaica.

Replaces between 47th-50th Streets and 21st Street-Queensbridge.

Runs only between Bay Ridge and 57th Street.

 

Note: and can use 36th Street to relay if there isn't room at Queens Plaza.

[NYSubwayBuff]

Why would you need the between WTC and Queens Plaza if you have the running through there. If it's for having an extra local on 8ave just make the local

 

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[TheNewYorkElevated]

An earthquake (similar from what went down in the hit anime series "Tokyo Magnitude 8.0") hits New York thanks to the Manhattaville Fault*. It is 8.0 on the richter scale. Its goes as far as Philadelphia, and parts of Delaware. How will the earthquake effect transportation in New York City?

 

(EXTRA CREDIT)

 

How would PATH (Port Authority Trans-Hudson), NJTransit, and SEPTA (Southeast Pennsylvania Transit Authority) deal with the aftermath?

 

Put in your best response below!

*Oh, and if you are curious where the epicenter, it is in West Harlem Piers Park.

[Lance]

I think we'd have a bit more pressing issues over getting the Northeast's subway/regional rails systems working, like the destruction and massive damage sustained in several major cities. Just saying.

[YankeesPwnMets]

An earthquake (similar from what went down in the hit anime series "Tokyo Magnitude 8.0") hits New York thanks to the Manhattaville Fault*. It is 8.0 on the richter scale. Its goes as far as Philadelphia, and parts of Delaware. How will the earthquake effect transportation in New York City?

 

(EXTRA CREDIT)

 

How would PATH (Port Authority Trans-Hudson), NJTransit, and SEPTA (Southeast Pennsylvania Transit Authority) deal with the aftermath?

 

Put in your best response below!

*Oh, and if you are curious where the epicenter, it is in West Harlem Piers Park.

An 8.0 with an epicenter in Manhattan would basically destroy the whole city

[pjbr40]

I agree with the previous post. i remember the 1:51 pm earthquake. Afterward, the media and some architecture said most building in Manhattan are not earthquake resistance like in tokyo and L.A. 

[BxM4Woodlawn]

there is a switching problem at the Jay St-Metrotech station and it must be shut down for repairs. no trains can pass through

affected

[Wallyhorse]

there is a switching problem at the Jay St-Metrotech station and it must be shut down for repairs. no trains can pass through

affected

Here goes:

 

runs as follows:

Manhattan: Chambers Street ( platform) to 207th Street

Single track shuttle operates between Chambers Street, Manhattan and High Street, Brooklyn

 

Brooklyn-Queens trains run a follows:

Hoyt-Schermerhorn Streets and Lefferts Boulevard (local between Hoyt Street and Euclid Avenue)

(NOTE: The Transit Museum is temporarily closed and at least one track is cleared of museum cars so trains can use the Court Street Transit Museum Station to turn trains while the switches at Jay Street are fixed)

 

Broadway Junction and Far Rockaway (express between Broadway Junction and Euclid Avenue.

 

Rockaway Park is extended to Broadway Junction and operates express between Broadway Junction and Euclid Avenue AND skips ALL stops between 80th Street-Hudson Street and Broad Channel in the peak direction.

 

runs via the and then between West 4th Street and the Broadway Junction platform, where it terminates.

 

runs York Street, Brooklyn to 179th Street, Queens (some trains terminate at Delancey Street or 2nd Avenue)

runs Coney Island-179th Street (extended from Church Avenue and Court Square) and replaces the in most of Brooklyn.

 

Shuttle buses operate between High Street-Brooklyn Bridge and via the regular route to Utica Avenue (with stops at York Street station, Jay Street-Metrotech, Hoyt-Schemerhorn and the Atlantic Terminal before assuming the normal route.  Passengers are encouraged where possible to use the other lines to the Atlantic Terminal OR use the between Manhattan and Broadway Junction if traveling into eastern Brooklyn and Queens.

Edited June 16, 2014 by Wallyhorse

[Wallyhorse]

Adding to what I wrote (as I could not go back and edit):
 

Here goes:

runs as follows:
Manhattan: Chambers Street ( platform) to 207th Street
Single track shuttle operates between Chambers Street, Manhattan and High Street, Brooklyn

Brooklyn-Queens trains run a follows:
Hoyt-Schermerhorn Streets and Lefferts Boulevard (local between Hoyt Street and Euclid Avenue)
(NOTE: The Transit Museum is temporarily closed and at least one track is cleared of museum cars so trains can use the Court Street Transit Museum Station to turn trains while the switches at Jay Street are fixed)

Broadway Junction and Far Rockaway (express between Broadway Junction and Euclid Avenue.

Rockaway Park is extended to Broadway Junction and operates express between Broadway Junction and Euclid Avenue AND skips ALL stops between 80th Street-Hudson Street and Broad Channel in the peak direction.

runs via the and then between West 4th Street and the Broadway Junction platform, where it terminates.

runs York Street, Brooklyn to 179th Street, Queens (some trains terminate at Delancey Street or 2nd Avenue)
runs Coney Island-179th Street (extended from Church Avenue and Court Square) and replaces the in most of Brooklyn.

Shuttle buses operate between High Street-Brooklyn Bridge and via the regular route to Utica Avenue (with stops at York Street station, Jay Street-Metrotech, Hoyt-Schemerhorn and the Atlantic Terminal before assuming the normal route.  Passengers are encouraged where possible to use the other lines to the Atlantic Terminal OR use the between Manhattan and Broadway Junction if traveling into eastern Brooklyn and Queens.

There are also single-track shuttles between Hoyt-Schermehorn and Jay Street (on both regular tracks) so that passengers can get to the Metrotech transfer to the there. 

[BxM4Woodlawn]

Here goes:

 

runs as follows:

Manhattan: Chambers Street ( platform) to 207th Street

Single track shuttle operates between Chambers Street, Manhattan and High Street, Brooklyn

 

Brooklyn-Queens trains run a follows:

Hoyt-Schermerhorn Streets and Lefferts Boulevard (local between Hoyt Street and Euclid Avenue)

(NOTE: The Transit Museum is temporarily closed and at least one track is cleared of museum cars so trains can use the Court Street Transit Museum )

Broadway Junction and Far Rockaway (express between Broadway Junction and Euclid Avenue.

 

Rockaway Park is extended to Broadway Junction and operates express between Broadway Junction and Euclid Avenue AND skips ALL stops between 80th Street-Hudson Street and Broad Channel in the peak direction.

 

runs via the and then between West 4th Street and the Broadway Junction platform, where it terminates.

 

runs York Street, Brooklyn to 179th Street, Queens (some trains terminate at Delancey Street or 2nd Avenue)

runs Coney Island-179th Street (extended from Church Avenue and Court Square) and replaces the in most of Brooklyn.

 

Shuttle buses operate between High Street-Brooklyn Bridge and via the regular route to Utica Avenue (with stops at York Street station, Jay Street-Metrotech, Hoyt-Schemerhorn and the Atlantic Terminal before assuming the normal route.  Passengers are encouraged where possible to use the other lines to the Atlantic Terminal OR use the between Manhattan and Broadway Junction if traveling into eastern Brooklyn and Queens.

wait, trains can access the transit museum tracks?

[Wallyhorse]

wait, trains can access the transit museum tracks?

Yes, trains can if there are no other trains on them.  There is a crossover there that dates back to when the Transit Museum station was an actual terminal for the Fulton Street locals (which is why Hoyt-Schermerhorn is a six-track, four-platform station).

 

The idea here is this is an emergency situation and it potentially minimizes the need for shuttle buses in such an emergency.