official Subway - What If?

[RollOver]

Next:

 

A sinkhole has developed very close to east end of the Fulton Street complex.  The Lexington Avenue line is unaffected by this (as is the Broadway Line and the Montauge Tunnel has reopened by the time this happens) but the other lines in the area are affected. 

 

- via the Lex between 149/GC and Nevins

-No 's between Chambers St and New Lots

- runs local in Brooklyn and is extended to/from New Lots

-Some 's short turn at Bowling Green

- via the Rugters tube between W4 and Jay, and also run local in Brooklyn (including south of 59 St-CC)

- 's short turn at Canal

-Some 's run via the Crosstown between Queens Plaza and Bergen (depending on its current frequency, to avoid congestion at the W4 bottleneck

-No 's between Chambers and Broad

Edited September 3, 2014 by RollOver

[TheNewYorkElevated]

My own sensible scenario.

 

In the PM rush hour runs, there is a blackout in all of the Bronx and Northern Manhattan (Inwood and Washington Heights in general) due to a power connection difficulty at Indian Point. 

 

Chaos? 

 

​Indefinably!

[MHV9218]

Oh... What a lovely response... More like a total insult...

 

Sorry. I mean this emotion  .

 

You should be thankful none of us reported your ass to the police department, which would have been totally viable.

 

I'm done with this. 

[BM5 via Woodhaven]

Oh... What a lovely response... More like a total insult...

 

Sorry. I mean this emotion  .

Just saying, given the current time period and what's trending in the subject matter lately, you've chosen the worst period to post such scenario, which was completely uncalled for and not needed. You need to be more pragmatic to these things.

You should be thankful none of us reported your ass to the police department, which would have been totally viable.

 

I'm done with this. 

Well he is 13 (although that doesn't exclude him from anything), so I hope he learned his lesson.

Edited September 3, 2014 by BM5 via Woodhaven

[Wallyhorse]

My own sensible scenario.

 

In the PM rush hour runs, there is a blackout in all of the Bronx and Northern Manhattan (Inwood and Washington Heights in general) due to a power connection difficulty at Indian Point. 

 

Chaos? 

 

​Indefinably!

Here goes (Note: This assumes all of the Bronx and points north of 155th Street in Manhattan are blacked out):

 

runs 145th Street (8th Avenue level)-Lefferts Boulevard OR Far Rockaway and runs local to Chambers (135th Street is skipped due to track switches).

(Note: Some trains short-turn at 125th Street),

 

runs West 4th Street-Brighton Beach ONLY!!

(Note: LIMITED service via the express tunnel to 34th Street)

 

runs from 34th Street-Penn Station ( platform) to Euclid Avenue ONLY (express Canal-34th Street)!

 

runs 145th Street (6th Avenue level)-Coney Island and runs local to West 4th Street (on both CPW & 6th Avenue)

ALL trains stop at 135th Street.

 

Some trains run via the between Bergen Street and Queens Plaza as needed.

 

Shuttle buses run from 125th Street to points north and to The Bronx stations.

 

runs South Ferry-137th Street with LIMITED service to 145th Street.

 

runs with the to 148th Street-Lenox Terminal (which is assumed to be unaffected by this), with the skipping 145th Street.

(Some trains run with the to 137th Street with VERY LIMITED service to the 145th Street station)

 

runs Utica Avenue-125th Street

is suspended.

runs Brooklyn Bridge-125th Street

 

Shuttle buses run to northern points of the stations noted and to The Bronx stations.

Edited September 4, 2014 by Wallyhorse

[Armandito]

What if...the Williamsburg Bridge was closed for a third time for repairs on the subway tracks:

 

and trains will run in two sections:

 

trains:

1. Between Jamaica Center and Hewes St

2. Between Essex St and Broad St on weekdays, and between Essex St and Chambers St on weekends

 

trains:

1. Between Myrtle Av-Bway and Metropolitan Av

2. Between Forest Hills and 2 Av on weekdays only

 

skip-stop service will run between Jamaica Center and Broadway Junction only ( trains will terminate at Broadway Junction).

 

peak-hour express service between Myrtle Av and Marcy Av will be suspended

 

Free shuttle buses will replace trains between Hewes St and Essex St

 

Customers wishing to travel directly between Manhattan and Brooklyn should consider using and service instead, and customers wishing to travel directly between Queens and Manhattan should consider using service instead.

Edited September 4, 2014 by lara8710

[Fresh Pond]

You know they did have a time years ago when trains did that for the most part...

[Armandito]

You know they did have a time years ago when trains did that for the most part...

However, at that time, full-time trains went to Marcy Av, trains terminated at Myrtle Av, and a special shuttle ran in Manhattan between Essex St and Broad St, while another rush hour ran between Chambers St and Bay Pkwy.

[Quill Depot]

Okay. I feel like I'm gonna stop posting scenarios on this thread for rule purposes. It also made me have a thought whether or not to go hiatus. :/

 

Why you so butthurt man

[DailyDose]

My own sensible scenario.

 

In the PM rush hour runs, there is a blackout in all of the Bronx and Northern Manhattan (Inwood and Washington Heights in general) due to a power connection difficulty at Indian Point. 

 

Chaos? 

 

​Indefinably!

trains terminate at 125th Street

 

Trains terminate at 137th Street.

Trains terminate at 148th Street (via the 3)

 

Trains terminate at 125th Street.

Some trains terminate at 86th Street to smoothen switching at 125th Street.

[Quill Depot]

Next: The Second Great Depression hits and the MTA's budget is slashed, and the MTA cannot handle the amount of routes today. Provide "good" service at a low cost for the subway. Don't feel hesitant to cut and slash lines completely.

[Fresh Pond]

reduced service

via 7 Av local

suspended

to New Lots Av all times all local

Dyre shuttle all times

reduced service

suspended

suspended

via local to Far Rockaway all times, Rockaway Pk service discontinued

suspended

suspended

via West End Local

to Lefferts Blvd all times via Fulton Local

normal

normal (not much you can cut from there lol)

Jamaica local all times

reduced service

Metropolitan Av to Essex St all times

via Whitehall all times

Continental Av to Coney island all times

Whitehall St to 95 St

suspended

[DailyDose]

Next: The Second Great Depression hits and the MTA's budget is slashed, and the MTA cannot handle the amount of routes today. Provide "good" service at a low cost for the subway. Don't feel hesitant to cut and slash lines completely.

Local in Brooklyn. Limited amount of trains go express during rush hour. All trains terminate at Ozone Park. Rockaways is extended to Euclid Avenue.

Extended to Coney Island, local in Brooklyn.

Suspended, use or in Manhattan.

Normal route, reduced service.

Goes via CPL, terminating at 168th Street. Cut from the 53rd Street tunnel.

Normal route. To replace the some trains go via Crosstown and terminate at 71st St. Continental. Extra service.

Suspended, use

Extended down to 9th Avenue via 4th Avenue local.

Normal route, reduced service.

Middle Village - Myrtle Avenue shuttle.

Normal route, reduced service.

Suspended, use and in Manhattan.

95th - 59th Shuttles. Use in Brooklyn, in Manhattan.

Suspended.

[Quill Depot]

I'll give my go at it:

 

trains run 168th to WTC, rush hour runs to Euclid. Local all the way. Use 1 north of 168th

trains run from 205th to Coney Island, CPW Local, 6th Av Exp, Brighton Local

suspended

suspended use N in Brooklyn

runs from Far Rock to 71st, Fulton exp rush, Queens local all times

split between 179th and Parsons/Archer

suspended. Use buses.

limited service between Jamaica Center and Myrtle Ave, transfer to R to continue

suspended

less service. Every other train terminates at Myrtle Ave and switches back for more service for dense areas of Brooklyn

suspended, use in Brooklyn

Some trains split to West End. Run 4th Ave local except during Rush

suspended

trains run up via Broadway and the via to Metro Ave

Brooklyn suspended use Bus

construction HALTED again for 30 years

 

trains run from 241st to 96th

trains run 7th Ave Local to South Ferry, shuttle to Fulton Transit hub

trains replace 3 in Brooklyn, Brooklyn local, limited service

runs Dyre Shuttle

train replaces 2 in Brooklyn, limited service

No 6,7 exp

limited service

[TheNewYorkElevated]

A What If situation if an actual "Pelham 123" hijacking did took place.

 

After Hijacking (Generally When The Train Involved has Been Disconnected from the Other Cars, and has Left 28th Street staion)

- Still runs as an normal Lexington Avenue express, but bypasses Grand Central-42nd Street and 14th Street-Union Square (this also includes running via 7th Avenue) as of precaution.

-Some trainns via 7th Avenue as an express.

-Service in the Bronx only (3rd Avenue-138th Street-Pelham Bay Park).  is suspended.

 

When Hijacked Train Becomes A Runway Train (Overunning the Car's Dead-Man Switch) To South Ferry 

-All Service in the Bronx only (Woodlawn-149th Street-Grand Concourse)

-All service via 7th Avenue in Manhattan as an express.

-Limited service in the Bronx to ease switch controls at 3rd Avenue-138th Street station. 

 

After Runaway Has Stopped at South Ferry

is not in service for the rest of the day.

continues to run in the Bronx only.

via 7th Avenue until further notice.

 

Do you like my service change throughout the hijacking? Or do you think there's a different way to handle the situation?

[Sparen of Iria]

Next: The Second Great Depression hits and the MTA's budget is slashed, and the MTA cannot handle the amount of routes today. Provide "good" service at a low cost for the subway. Don't feel hesitant to cut and slash lines completely.

 

: Rockaway Park rush hour service suspended

: Suspended

: Suspended

: Local from Pacific to 36

: Queens Blvd Local

: No Changes

: Court Sq to Smith 9 Sts (Yes there is stuff to cut here, surprisingly)

: 4 car trains instead of 8 car trains

: Skip Stop service terminated

: No Changes

: Metropolitan to Essex

: Via Tunnel

: 57/7Av to Stillwell 

: Whitehall to 95

: No Changes

: Lol

: Suspended

 

: Cut number of trains to 1.

: Reduced service

: 7 Av Local

: Late Night service pattern

: Woodlawn to New Lots

: Late Night service pattern

: Express service suspended

: Express service suspended

 

EDIT: Looks like the 0 didn't turn up, so changed to the shuttle designation

Edited September 6, 2014 by Sparen of Iria

[Wallyhorse]

Next: The Second Great Depression hits and the MTA's budget is slashed, and the MTA cannot handle the amount of routes today. Provide "good" service at a low cost for the subway. Don't feel hesitant to cut and slash lines completely.

As I would do it:

 

is full-time local (full route) in Brooklyn to Far Rockaway and Rockaway Park at all times (via the old Round-Robin shuttle route in the Rockaways).

is eliminated

is eliminated

goes back to being via Brighton Beach local at all times to Coney Island

is extended all times to Lefferts Boulevard and is express in Brooklyn in rush hours

is unaffected (other than reduced service)

is unaffected (other than reduced service)

is extended via West End to Coney Island at all times

is unaffected (other than reduced service)

becomes a 24/7 route to 71st-Continental

becomes a full-time local via tunnel to Astoria

is peak-direction rush hours only from 57th-7th Avenue to Brighton Beach (express on the Brighton line)

runs only to Whitehall Street at all times (overnights to 36th Street), extended rush hours ONLY to 71st-Continental.

Rockaway Park is replaced as noted above

Franklin Avenue is unaffected

is eliminated

 

and are unaffected (other than reduced service)

runs to Atlantic Avenue middays, otherwise unaffected (other than reduced service).

runs to Atlantic Avenue middays and after PM Rush AND weekends ONLY is a shuttle to East 180th.

is extended evenings and weekends to Bowling Green and overnights is a shuttle ONLY between Pelham Bay Park and 125th Street.

and are eliminated

is local only.

Edited September 6, 2014 by Wallyhorse

[RollOver]

A New Lots-bound derails while it's making its way out of the underground portal (with half of the train outside and the other half still inside the tunnel).

 

Suspension and alternatives away.

[Quill Depot]

A New Lots-bound derails while it's making its way out of the underground portal (with half of the train outside and the other half still inside the tunnel).

 

Suspension and alternatives away.

 

trains run in two sections 148 to Utica and Junius to New Lots

[MTA Dude]

Next: The Second Great Depression hits and the MTA's budget is slashed, and the MTA cannot handle the amount of routes today. Provide "good" service at a low cost for the subway. Don't feel hesitant to cut and slash lines completely.

I've already done this before, but whatever.

s/b terminates at 137th Street, running at 7-10 minute intervals.

runs at 10 minute intervals full route local.

is suspended.

runs at 7-10 minute intervals full route to New Lots local.

runs as shuttle at 20-30 minute intervals.

runs to 125th Street at 6-10 minute intervals.

runs at 6-10 minute intervals.

, suspended.

runs at 7-10 minute intervals full route local. Lefferts and Rockaway Park served by shuttle at every 20-30 minutes.

suspended

suspended.

runs at 10 minute intervals.

two sections: Forest Hills and Jamaica, Queens Plaza and Lex, each at 10-20 minute intervals.

runs at 7-10 minute intervals.

runs at 10-20 minute intervals. Terminates at Bergen or Smith.

runs at 10 minute intervals full route local.

runs at 6-10 minute intervals.

runs as shuttle at 20-30 minute intervals.

runs full route local at 10 minute intervals via tunnel.

n/b terminates at Prospect using southbound platform.

runs as shuttle.

 42nd Street Suspended.

Franklin runs only between Prospect and Botanical Garden one track.

Suspended.

Edited September 6, 2014 by MTA Dude

[TrainFanInfinity]

A New Lots-bound derails while it's making its way out of the underground portal (with half of the train outside and the other half still inside the tunnel).

 

Suspension and alternatives away.

 

: No service b/w Utica Avenue & New Lots Avenue.

Shuttle buses provide alternative service.

[TheNewYorkElevated]

Next: The Second Great Depression hits and the MTA's budget is slashed, and the MTA cannot handle the amount of routes today. Provide "good" service at a low cost for the subway. Don't feel hesitant to cut and slash lines completely.

 Here goes mine...

Services On Suspension Until Further Notice

  

Services Unaffected

 

Changes On Affected Services

-Rockaway Park rush hour is suspended. Also an all-time local in all the boroughs it serves in.

-Runs via the Brighton Line as an express. This includes stopping at DeKalb Avenue.

-Local at all stops on Queens Boulevard.

-Service cutback to Smith-9th Streets.

-Via West End to Coney Island at all times. Also, skip-stop is on suspension.

-Between Essex Street and Metropolitan Avenue at all times.

-All time local in all boroughs this line serves. This line will also stop at DeKalb Avenue.

-Between Atlantic Avenue-Barclays Center and Coney Island.

-Between Court Street

 

-All time local all boroughs.

-Cutback to 96th Street, 135th Street, or no service at all during late nights

-Local on Lexington Avenue. Eastern Parkway express unaffected.

-Service to both Nereid Avenue and Flatbush Avenue on suspension, therefore, it runs to Bowling Green on weekdays. Weekends, as a shuttle to East 180th Street.

-Late nights between 125th Street and Pelham Bay Park

-Late nights to Queensboro Plaza.

[DailyDose]

Because of a serious terrorist threat, the secretary of defense, Bratton, Gov. Cuomo, and deBlasio have agreed to only partially shut down the subway system. However they have declared a SOE between South Ferry and Canal Street, also between 28th Street and 57th Street.

The Manhattan bridge is closed as well as the Jorelamon, Montague, Clark tubes. The 53rd Street tunnel is also closed. Reroute service as needed.

 

The Cranberry tubes are open, as well as 63rd.

[Quill Depot]

Because of a serious terrorist threat, the secretary of defense, Bratton, Gov. Cuomo, and deBlasio have agreed to only partially shut down the subway system. However they have declared a SOE between South Ferry and Canal Street, also between 28th Street and 57th Street.

The Manhattan bridge is closed as well as the Jorelamon, Montague, Clark tubes. The 53rd Street tunnel is also closed. Reroute service as needed.

 

The Cranberry tubes are open, as well as 63rd.

 

What is SOE?

[Fresh Pond]

I would assume State Of Emergency

 

Besides, if that were the case, the entire system would be shut down...