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First of all the Sixth Avenue Line has no room. Second of all the Jamaica Line has no room. Why not just have the (A) go there? It's so freaking close..........

 

(A)  train already has two branches (three during rush hours), it doesn't need another one. Also on the BMT Jamaica Line, that's why I propose building express tracks above the existing line between Broadway Junction and Marcy Avenue however it merges back into the existing line to stop at Myrtle Avenue-Broadway. And the  (B) train could be moved onto the IND 8th Avenue line between W 4 Street and 59 Street-Columbus Circle and would be express. But other than that it stays on it's current route.

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(A)  train already has two branches (three during rush hours), it doesn't need another one. Also on the BMT Jamaica Line, that's why I propose building express tracks above the existing line between Broadway Junction and Marcy Avenue however it merges back into the existing line to stop at Myrtle Avenue-Broadway. And the  (B) train could be moved onto the IND 8th Avenue line between W 4 Street and 59 Street-Columbus Circle and would be express. But other than that it stays on it's current route.

 

There is no need for a third branch. Lefferts Boulevard is so close to the airport that an extension won't kill it. Besides the Jamaica Line can't handle an express track. Besides there is no room for switching at West 4th Street. It doesn't work..........

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Sorry, it said unplanned service changes which was why I posted it here. Also is it because of those stupid NIMBYS which is why they would get sued because I'm guessing it's that.

No, it's because PANYNJ runs the airtrain for $5, and they have a right to sue if it's running right along with airtrain and interfering with their operations.

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No, it's because PANYNJ runs the airtrain for $5, and they have a right to sue if it's running right along with airtrain and interfering with their operations.

 

Wow that's stupid. Plus the Airtrain is shit anyways, charging $5. Nah, I'd rather walk to Miami than use that train.

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Wow that's stupid. Plus the Airtrain is shit anyways, charging $5. Nah, I'd rather walk to Miami than use that train.

It's not really stupid

 

If you provide a service from Point A to Point B for lets say $4.00 , you have the rights for that. No, if someone else provides a service for $2.00, if you have evidence that your servuce is falling, you have the right to sue the company, because you have incured losses for that one's actions.

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There is the Q10 bus if you don't want to spend $5.

Right. If Port wanted their $5 so bad and didn't want those buses going on airport property they can revoke the TA's right to run buses there and use their roadways/stops. Similar to how NYPD and FDNY are not permitted on the property without Port's permission.

 

What was being talked about is a little different though, it's an actual direct train service to the airport.

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Right. If Port wanted their $5 so bad and didn't want those buses going on airport property they can revoke the TA's right to run buses there and use their roadways/stops. Similar to how NYPD and FDNY are not permitted on the property without Port's permission.

 

What was being talked about is a little different though, it's an actual direct train service to the airport.

 

I don't think that's true at all...

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Proposed subway line I made that runs from Harlem-125 Street to JFK Airport. Operates as IND 6 Avenue local and i'm calling it the  (V) since the former  (V) operated on the IND 6 Avenue line (obviously). Also runs express on BMT Jamaica line between Marcy Avenue and Broadway Junction, only stopping at Myrtle Avenue-Broadway in between. Heres the map of this proposed line: New V Train - Google Maps

 

Also at Atlantic Avenue, it will use the platform of a demolished subway line right next to the  (L). I proposed this line because Manhattan lacks a direct link to JFK, especially Harlem. Even if you use the  (A) to Howard Beach, you still have transfer to the AirTrain. And same thing with  (E) or  (J) / (Z) to Sutphin Boulevard.

 

 

 

propose stuff like that here q90 we told you when you made a bus proposal thread to go to the proposal thread

http://www.nyctransitforums.com/forums/topic/24490-create-your-own-subway-route/

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I don't think that's true at all...

 

It's very true, they even deny them access to the World Trade Center if an emergency happens. Some guy got trapped or fell or something, FDNY showed up but was not allowed inside, the PAPD ESU took care of it. I read about it on this NYPD cop forum (where they threaten to physically harm people out against the NYPD agenda). The City guys are called on if they're needed, and if they decide to show up anyway they stage in front of the PAPD precinct and are allowed in as needed.

 

Point is, Port has a shit ton of control over what government agencies can enter their properties, and could easily revoke the MTA's permits to operate anything there.

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It's very true, they even deny them access to the World Trade Center if an emergency happens. Some guy got trapped or fell or something, FDNY showed up but was not allowed inside, the PAPD ESU took care of it. I read about it on this NYPD cop forum (where they threaten to physically harm people out against the NYPD agenda). The City guys are called on if they're needed, and if they decide to show up anyway they stage in front of the PAPD precinct and are allowed in as needed.

 

Point is, Port has a shit ton of control over what government agencies can enter their properties, and could easily revoke the MTA's permits to operate anything there.

 

Actually just spoke to a friend of mine at the Port, you're totally right. Not a good system.

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No, it's because PANYNJ runs the airtrain for $5, and they have a right to sue if it's running right along with airtrain and interfering with their operations.

 

Anybody has the right to sue for any reason, but the Port Authority is unlikely to win a lawsuit on the grounds that somebody is undercutting their fare. On the other hand, the Port Authority is extremely likely to win a lawsuit on the grounds that somebody has constructed something on their property without their permission!

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Anybody has the right to sue for any reason, but the Port Authority is unlikely to win a lawsuit on the grounds that somebody is undercutting their fare. On the other hand, the Port Authority is extremely likely to win a lawsuit on the grounds that somebody has constructed something on their property without their permission!

They could, if there was a very significant loss in revenue (30% or more loss in revenue).

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They could, if there was a very significant loss in revenue (30% or more loss in revenue).

 

Nonsense. The Port Authority can obviously stop any other party from building on their property, but simply undercutting someone's prices is not grounds for a (successful) lawsuit.

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Service Change  Posted: 07/30/2013 11:09AM 
 

Due to smoke condition at 50 St, the following service changes are in effect:

Northbound 2.png trains are running on the 5.png line from Nevins St to 149 St-Grand Concourse.

Northbound 1.png trains terminating at Times q-S42 St.

Northbound 3.png trains terminating at 14 St.

Allow additional travel time.

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They could, if there was a very significant loss in revenue (30% or more loss in revenue).

I hope you're not saying that they could win. Unless you're in some socialist/totalitarian country where prices are tighly controlled, there is no issue with competition actually succeeding in providing lower-priced service. It's a basic feature of free markets.

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I just got off a (B) at Kings Highway, right now all (B)'s last stop is at Kings Highway.  (Q)'s last stop is Brighton Beach until 3:00 pm and there's a shuttle train from Brighton Beach to Coney Island station.

 

Also, just saw on the news at a local bagel shop, something happened in midtown disrupting subway services but I don't know which lines were affected.  Can't say for sure on the midtown issue as I just caught the end of it.

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I just got off a (B) at Kings Highway, right now all (B)'s last stop is at Kings Highway.  (Q)'s last stop is Brighton Beach until 3:00 pm and there's a shuttle train from Brighton Beach to Coney Island station.

 

Also, just saw on the news at a local bagel shop, something happened in midtown disrupting subway services but I don't know which lines were affected.  Can't say for sure on the midtown issue as I just caught the end of it.

 

The only midtown alert I see is the 50th St. Smoke Condition: 

 

Service Change  Posted: 07/30/2013 11:09AM 

 

Due to smoke condition at 50 St, the following service changes are in effect:

Northbound 2.png trains are running on the 5.png line from Nevins St to 149 St-Grand Concourse.

Northbound 1.png trains terminating at Times q-S42 St.

Northbound 3.png trains terminating at 14 St.

Allow additional travel time.

 

Which shows up as cleared as of 11:35 AM. 

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Service Change  Posted: 07/30/2013  3:18PM
 

Due to track maintenance at Stillwell Av:

q.png trains operate in two sections:

q.png trains terminate at Brighton Beach Av.

q.png shuttle trains run between Stillwell Av and Brighton Beach Av.

Both directions, no b.png train service between Kings Highway and Brighton Beach Av.

Allow additional travel time.

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I just got off a (B) at Kings Highway, right now all (B)'s last stop is at Kings Highway.  (Q)'s last stop is Brighton Beach until 3:00 pm and there's a shuttle train from Brighton Beach to Coney Island station.

 

 

Service Change  Posted: 07/30/2013  3:18PM

 

Due to track maintenance at Stillwell Av:

q.png trains operate in two sections:

q.png trains terminate at Brighton Beach Av.

q.png shuttle trains run between Stillwell Av and Brighton Beach Av.

Both directions, no b.png train service between Kings Highway and Brighton Beach Av.

Allow additional travel time.

 

Hmm, I guess it stretched past 3 pm like they originally said at 12:00 pm when I got off the (B) but it's all good not according to mta.info

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