darkstar8983 Posted December 2, 2022 Share #3476 Posted December 2, 2022 4 hours ago, Lawrence St said: Actually why not just send the to Broad St? Which has it's own issues but doesn't delay service nearly as much as Dungeon St...I mean Chambers St. The will be running rush hours and relays take time. I don’t think the Broad St Relay can handle 20 TPH. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daniel The Cool Posted December 2, 2022 Share #3477 Posted December 2, 2022 5 hours ago, darkstar8983 said: I think they did it last year. or maybe it was 2020. I think last year it wasn't done because of the omicron surge, and a lot of subway routes were already cut. and It was 2020 when they did it. Last year it wasn't done because of the shortage caused by omicron. The wasn't suspended during the omicron surge. It was only during that huge 2020 outbreak the line was suspended 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lawrence St Posted December 2, 2022 Share #3478 Posted December 2, 2022 (edited) 45 minutes ago, darkstar8983 said: The will be running rush hours and relays take time. I don’t think the Broad St Relay can handle 20 TPH. Screw the . The crossing in front of and three times makes the moot at that point. Side note: They need to use the to provide alternate service to the and when it's cut south of Brooklyn Bridge, or frankly when the is on Nassau. Edited December 2, 2022 by Lawrence St 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darkstar8983 Posted December 2, 2022 Share #3479 Posted December 2, 2022 2 minutes ago, Lawrence St said: Screw the . The crossing in front of and three times makes the moot at that point. Side note: They need to use the to provide alternate service to the and when it's cut south of Brooklyn Bridge, or frankly when the is on Nassau. the shuttle trains that used to run past Broad St into Brooklyn during the train suspensions between Brooklyn Bridge and Brooklyn carried air, as did the rush hour trains to Bay Parkway. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lawrence St Posted December 2, 2022 Share #3480 Posted December 2, 2022 1 minute ago, darkstar8983 said: the shuttle trains that used to run past Broad St into Brooklyn during the train suspensions between Brooklyn Bridge and Brooklyn carried air, as did the rush hour trains to Bay Parkway. Because those shuttle's were never advertised the way advertises alternatives now. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R68AviaWestEndExp Posted December 9, 2022 Share #3481 Posted December 9, 2022 No between Bowling Green and Crown Hts-Utica Av/New Lots Av Jan 6 - 9, Fri 11:30 PM to Mon 5:00 AM trains run between Woodlawn and Bowling Green, the last stop. trains run to/from New Lots Av all weekend. Travel Alternatives: For service between Borough Hall and Franklin Av-Medgar Evers College, take the 2 or 3. Take the between Franklin Av-Medgar Evers College and New Lots Av. • Transfer between the and trains at Fulton St. What's happening? We are making signal improvements replaces the in Brooklyn Jan 6 - 9, Fri 11:30 PM to Mon 5:00 AM service runs to/from New Lots Av all weekend. What's happening? trains are providing alternate service in Brooklyn during weekend planned work on the line. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CyclonicTrainLookout Posted December 16, 2022 Share #3482 Posted December 16, 2022 (edited) On the weekend of January 13-16, will not run between Myrtle-Wyckoff and 8 Av. trains will return to 96 St-2 Av running every 12 minutes during that time as an alternative. Edited December 16, 2022 by CyclonicTrainLookout 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R68AviaWestEndExp Posted December 17, 2022 Share #3483 Posted December 17, 2022 Franklin Ave Shuttle is being replaced by shuttle buses the same weekend. Franklin Av Shuttle is replaced by free shuttle buses Jan 14 - 15, Sat and Sun, 5:45 AM to 6:00 PM 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Calvin Posted December 21, 2022 Share #3484 Posted December 21, 2022 Starting Monday, December 26th: Christmas Day observed up to the last day of 2022, December 31st. 53rd St tube will be closed for repairs. runs with the while goes its old Nassau St Local line from Essex St to Chambers St with the . 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darkstar8983 Posted December 29, 2022 Share #3485 Posted December 29, 2022 It seems that the MTA can never learn from its mistakes. This is like the fourth year the MTA has done the 53 St tunnel full closure GO between Christmas and New Years, and they keep screwing up. This was the perfect year (and next year too) to maximize work zone access, since the Christmas Eve/New Years day holidays fell on weekends. Also, there have been many signal and switch issues + mechanical breakdowns during this GO that have caused invasive reroutes which were not really necessary. For example: 1. This year (and next year too), the GO could have ran from December 23rd 10PM to January 2nd 5:30AM, doubling the time that the work zone is available for workers to get more projects and upgrades completed. 2. The 6 Av Local tracks CANNOT handle 30 TPH from the trains like Queens Blvd Express tracks can, which is why you've been seeing trains being rerouted via Crosstown during rush hours. Its train cap is only 25 TPH. To fix this, the MTA could have just canceled the 179 St trips, and slightly reduced the service by cancelling the and making sure that headways on the were 5 minutes each (24 TPH). This would likely also mean fewer Kings Highway trips, or a slight reduction in service to/from Stillwell Av if the pattern of alternating trains between Kings Highway and Stillwell Av has to be maintained. 3. Switch issues and train breakdowns at West 4 St have been causing reroutes on the lines because its been a long time since these switches have been in continuous service, in exchange for "locking in" the 36 St interlocking and Queens Plaza interlocking. The tracks that are used in that West 4 St area to switch 6 Av trains back to 8 Av (southbound), and vice versa-northbound are likely seldomly used (when there are GOs and emergency reroutes), meaning they dont get as much TLC as mainline revenue tracks. Thats like saying 'lets reactivate the Nassau St connection to the Montague tunnel'. Because of these switch issues and capacity issues along 6 Av, you've been seeing reroutes daily such as: - trains express south of 59 St-Columbus Circle - trains rerouted to 2 Av station - trains rerouted via Broadway to/from Whitehall St (which interferes with the due to needing to switch from the express tracks to local south of 57 St-7 Av) - trains bypassing Manhattan altogether by rerouting via Crosstown, which delays the 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daniel The Cool Posted December 29, 2022 Share #3486 Posted December 29, 2022 1 hour ago, darkstar8983 said: 1. This year (and next year too), the GO could have ran from December 23rd 10PM to January 2nd 5:30AM, doubling the time that the work zone is available for workers to get more projects and upgrades completed. You do realize the reason why the G.O is ending at 5 AM on New Year Eve is due to the New Year's Eve Service Enhancements. They did the same thing back in 2017 and 2018. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trainfan22 Posted December 29, 2022 Share #3487 Posted December 29, 2022 4 hours ago, darkstar8983 said: It seems that the MTA can never learn from its mistakes. This is like the fourth year the MTA has done the 53 St tunnel full closure GO between Christmas and New Years, and they keep screwing up. This was the perfect year (and next year too) to maximize work zone access, since the Christmas Eve/New Years day holidays fell on weekends. Also, there have been many signal and switch issues + mechanical breakdowns during this GO that have caused invasive reroutes which were not really necessary. For example: 1. This year (and next year too), the GO could have ran from December 23rd 10PM to January 2nd 5:30AM, doubling the time that the work zone is available for workers to get more projects and upgrades completed. 2. The 6 Av Local tracks CANNOT handle 30 TPH from the trains like Queens Blvd Express tracks can, which is why you've been seeing trains being rerouted via Crosstown during rush hours. Its train cap is only 25 TPH. To fix this, the MTA could have just canceled the 179 St trips, and slightly reduced the service by cancelling the and making sure that headways on the were 5 minutes each (24 TPH). This would likely also mean fewer Kings Highway trips, or a slight reduction in service to/from Stillwell Av if the pattern of alternating trains between Kings Highway and Stillwell Av has to be maintained. 3. Switch issues and train breakdowns at West 4 St have been causing reroutes on the lines because its been a long time since these switches have been in continuous service, in exchange for "locking in" the 36 St interlocking and Queens Plaza interlocking. The tracks that are used in that West 4 St area to switch 6 Av trains back to 8 Av (southbound), and vice versa-northbound are likely seldomly used (when there are GOs and emergency reroutes), meaning they dont get as much TLC as mainline revenue tracks. Thats like saying 'lets reactivate the Nassau St connection to the Montague tunnel'. Because of these switch issues and capacity issues along 6 Av, you've been seeing reroutes daily such as: - trains express south of 59 St-Columbus Circle - trains rerouted to 2 Av station - trains rerouted via Broadway to/from Whitehall St (which interferes with the due to needing to switch from the express tracks to local south of 57 St-7 Av) - trains bypassing Manhattan altogether by rerouting via Crosstown, which delays the The TA canceled the to 179th Street trips for the PM Rush today. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darkstar8983 Posted December 30, 2022 Share #3488 Posted December 30, 2022 17 hours ago, Daniel The Cool said: You do realize the reason why the G.O is ending at 5 AM on New Year Eve is due to the New Year's Eve Service Enhancements. They did the same thing back in 2017 and 2018. They don’t even have enough workers to provide regular service yet there’s going to magically be enough to provide enhanced service?!?! 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darkstar8983 Posted December 30, 2022 Share #3489 Posted December 30, 2022 14 hours ago, trainfan22 said: The TA canceled the to 179th Street trips for the PM Rush today. On the last day they finally figure it out 😒😒 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CyclonicTrainLookout Posted December 30, 2022 Share #3490 Posted December 30, 2022 Planned - Suspended is suspended Jan 27 - 30, Fri 9:30 PM to Mon 5:00 AM Free shuttle buses run between Middle Village-Metropolitan Av and Delancey St-Essex St, making all station stops. Note: No trains between Myrtle Av and Delancey St-Essex St during this time. What's happening? Track maintenance Planned - Part Suspended No between Myrtle Av and Broad St Jan 27 - 30, Fri 9:30 PM to Mon 5:00 AM trains run between Jamaica Center-Parsons/Archer and Myrtle Av, the last stop. Free shuttle buses run between Myrtle Av and Delancey St-Essex St. Travel Alternatives: For Flushing Av, Lorimer St, Hewes St, Marcy Av and Delancey St-Essex St, take a shuttle bus. For Bowery, Canal St, Chambers St, Fulton St and Broad St, use nearby stations. For service between Brooklyn and Manhattan, consider the or via transfer at Broadway Junction. Transfer stations: Myrtle Av Shuttle Bus Delancey St-Essex St Shuttle Bus Broadway-Lafayette St/Bleecker St Accessbility| local, Brooklyn Bridge-City Hall Accessbility | Travel tip: For Hewes St and Lorimer St, take the at nearby Broadway. Transfer between trains at Metropolitan Av/Lorimer St for service to/from Manhattan. Note: trains are not running during this time. What's happening? Track maintenance 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JustTheSIR Posted January 2, 2023 Share #3491 Posted January 2, 2023 On 12/30/2022 at 12:57 PM, CyclonicTrainLookout said: Planned - Suspended is suspended Jan 27 - 30, Fri 9:30 PM to Mon 5:00 AM Free shuttle buses run between Middle Village-Metropolitan Av and Delancey St-Essex St, making all station stops. Note: No trains between Myrtle Av and Delancey St-Essex St during this time. What's happening? Track maintenance Planned - Part Suspended No between Myrtle Av and Broad St Jan 27 - 30, Fri 9:30 PM to Mon 5:00 AM trains run between Jamaica Center-Parsons/Archer and Myrtle Av, the last stop. Free shuttle buses run between Myrtle Av and Delancey St-Essex St. Travel Alternatives: For Flushing Av, Lorimer St, Hewes St, Marcy Av and Delancey St-Essex St, take a shuttle bus. For Bowery, Canal St, Chambers St, Fulton St and Broad St, use nearby stations. For service between Brooklyn and Manhattan, consider the or via transfer at Broadway Junction. Transfer stations: Myrtle Av Shuttle Bus Delancey St-Essex St Shuttle Bus Broadway-Lafayette St/Bleecker St Accessbility| local, Brooklyn Bridge-City Hall Accessbility | Travel tip: For Hewes St and Lorimer St, take the at nearby Broadway. Transfer between trains at Metropolitan Av/Lorimer St for service to/from Manhattan. Note: trains are not running during this time. What's happening? Track maintenance *has whole list* “What’s happening? track maintenance.” A bit funny how those 2 words can knock out a whole line 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darkstar8983 Posted January 4, 2023 Share #3492 Posted January 4, 2023 (edited) On 1/2/2023 at 2:57 PM, JustTheSIR said: *has whole list* “What’s happening? track maintenance.” A bit funny how those 2 words can knock out a whole line The maintenance must be at the Marcy Av interlocking since Hewes St is not available to turn trains around. A thought on this - why can’t the trains platform at Marcy Av (ADA accessible station) even though the interlocking is there when the normally is cut back to Hewes St? Edited January 4, 2023 by darkstar8983 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lawrence St Posted January 4, 2023 Share #3493 Posted January 4, 2023 I’m shocked they can’t run the to Wyckoff Ave like they did before. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CyclonicTrainLookout Posted January 4, 2023 Share #3494 Posted January 4, 2023 https://new.mta.info/press-release/mta-begin-construction-accessibility-project-queensboro-plaza-six-weekends-of-7-line The will officially start work on the Queensboro Plaza accessibility project next month during the weekends in multiple phases. First phase will suspend service between Queensboro Plaza and 34 St-Hudson Yards. The suspension will occur around May, though I doubt they will send the down Queens Blvd when the suspension does happen now that they are suspending one line at a time. The will be suspended from 12:15 am Saturday February 4 to 5 am Monday February 6, then from 3:45 am Saturday to 10 pm Sunday on the weekends of Feb 11-12, Feb 25-26, Mar 11-12, Mar 25-26, and Apr 22-23. Shuttle buses will run between Queensboro Plaza and Vernon Blvd-Jackson Av and between Times Sq-42 and 34-Hudson Yards during the suspension. In addition, the 42nd St shuttle will operate overnights and the will operate on Saturdays from 7 am to 7 pm and Sundays from 10 am to 6 pm between Astoria-Ditmars and 34-Herald Sq. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darkstar8983 Posted January 4, 2023 Share #3495 Posted January 4, 2023 12 minutes ago, CyclonicTrainLookout said: https://new.mta.info/press-release/mta-begin-construction-accessibility-project-queensboro-plaza-six-weekends-of-7-line The will officially start work on the Queensboro Plaza accessibility project next month during the weekends in multiple phases. First phase will suspend service between Queensboro Plaza and 34 St-Hudson Yards. The suspension will occur around May, though I doubt they will send the down Queens Blvd when the suspension does happen now that they are suspending one line at a time. The will be suspended from 12:15 am Saturday February 4 to 5 am Monday February 6, then from 3:45 am Saturday to 10 pm Sunday on the weekends of Feb 11-12, Feb 25-26, Mar 11-12, Mar 25-26, and Apr 22-23. Shuttle buses will run between Queensboro Plaza and Vernon Blvd-Jackson Av and between Times Sq-42 and 34-Hudson Yards during the suspension. In addition, the 42nd St shuttle will operate overnights and the will operate on Saturdays from 7 am to 7 pm and Sundays from 10 am to 6 pm between Astoria-Ditmars and 34-Herald Sq. Nope! don't count on seeing trains via Queens Blvd - most likely the will not run between Times Sq-42 St and Ditmars Blvd (which has been done before - just use some shuttle buses and done). 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trainfan22 Posted January 4, 2023 Share #3496 Posted January 4, 2023 Currently there is an emergency one day G.O on the where it's running a shuttle bus between Broadway Junction and Myrtle Ave, 24 minute headway shuttle between Canarsie and Broadway Junction. Got caught off guard about this. Hate this one train 24 minute headway shuttle G.O. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R32 3838 Posted January 4, 2023 Share #3497 Posted January 4, 2023 1 hour ago, darkstar8983 said: Nope! don't count on seeing trains via Queens Blvd - most likely the will not run between Times Sq-42 St and Ditmars Blvd (which has been done before - just use some shuttle buses and done). It can happen, It'll just be R160s from Jamaica running on the . It'll either be trains replacing trains in queens or both / running together. The Shuttle train between Astoria and 39th ave is close to the 36th st station, They want people to transfer via a block ticket to 39th ave from 36th st hence the running on queens blvd to avoid confusion. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darkstar8983 Posted January 4, 2023 Share #3498 Posted January 4, 2023 33 minutes ago, R32 3838 said: It can happen, It'll just be R160s from Jamaica running on the . It'll either be trains replacing trains in queens or both / running together. The Shuttle train between Astoria and 39th ave is close to the 36th st station, They want people to transfer via a block ticket to 39th ave from 36th st hence the running on queens blvd to avoid confusion. Where would the crews come from? Are crews CBTC trained? To run the that far out of the way you would need the same number of crews you'd use for weekday service (increased route length PLUS a shuttle in Astoria). might as well just cut the back to Times Square and run shuttle buses from Queensboro Plaza to Ditmars Blvd and not mix QB with the GO. You all know I am all FOR R160s back on the but I don t think this GO will work like it did back in the Bush Era 2004 last time it was done. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lawrence St Posted January 6, 2023 Share #3499 Posted January 6, 2023 When they do work on the Bergen St interlocking, why don’t they just do the following: via extended from West 4th St to Euclid Ave. 168th St-WTC. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darkstar8983 Posted January 6, 2023 Share #3500 Posted January 6, 2023 1 hour ago, Lawrence St said: When they do work on the Bergen St interlocking, why don’t they just do the following: via extended from West 4th St to Euclid Ave. 168th St-WTC. What do you mean? The connection that allows trains from Jay St MetroTech to go to Bergen St via Local? Or the entire interlocking? if it’s the former, then just do the to/from Coney Island, the to/from Euclid Av, and end the at World Trade Center. Before, when the was knocked out in the late 2000s, the MTA ran the whole local from 168’St to Euclid Av, which I don’t think is permitted anymore during daytime and evening hours due to the increased running times especially on the Far Rockaway trains outside late nights. If we’re concerned about increased running times on the , then short-turn the at Delaney St-Essex St or World Trade Center station and use the to connect to the Coney Island . 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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