Planned Subway Service Changes

[Kingsbridgeviewer382]

Note that this weekend's service changes for the  and  Lines have been cancelled.

 Trains were set to run express downtown from East 180th St to 3rd Ave-149th St. Uptown trains were set to run express from East 180th St to Gun Hill Road.

 Trains were set to terminate at Utica Avenue, with shuttle buses running to New Lots Ave.

[darkstar8983]

The last couple of weekends of October, they could technically just suspend the  train and run the  from Stillwell Av to 57 St-7 Av (via Lower Manhattan) then via the  to/from 96 St-2 Av and make the following changes:

- Extend the  shuttle bus to/from Atlantic Av-Barclays Center

- **reroute the  back to Broadway for that weekend, unless the switch connecting the 63 St tunnel  line to Broadway is also out of service

 

*They have the  suspended already between Manhattan and Queens, and the  is essentially out in Brooklyn. Might as well consolidate the two services into one route and the following benefits:

- No messy switching with the downtown ,  ,  and  all on 6 Av

- No short-turning at Prospect Park or at Times Sq-42 St

- Almost-normal  train service

 

*If the issue is route length for this 96 St-Coney Island  train route proposed during the service outage, technically the express tracks on 4 Av, Broadway, and. the Manhattan Bridge are open to Broadway trains, so those tracks could be used, and the  can just run via 63 St between 36 St Queens and 57 St-7 Av, still covering the local stops during daytime and evening hours. The  would then make the local stops via Lower Manhattan overnight. The only thing I see that would prevent this from happening are track closures along the proposed "open" corridors, but we know so far that 4 Av Express is open since the  is express in Brooklyn, and the Manhattan Bridge is open since the  is running via the Bridge south side that weekend. This would also save on train crews needed in case there are worker shortages leading to "trains running as frequently as we can with the crews available" 

Edited October 2, 2022 by darkstar8983

[CyclonicTrainLookout]

The  will be suspended in Manhattan on the weekend of Nov 12-14 but interestingly enough, the  won't be running special weekend  service this time (as they had done in the past) but rather a rerouted  train to Astoria (replicating its 2010-16 route). There will be a  shuttle operating between 96 St - 2 Av and Lexington Av - 63 St at the same time.

Planned - Part Suspended

No  between Queensboro Plaza and 34 St-Hudson Yards

Nov 12 - 14, Sat 12:15 AM to Mon 5:00 AM

 trains run in Queens between Flushing-Main St and Queensboro Plaza every 8 minutes days and evenings.

Shuttle Bus Free shuttle buses run in two sections:

1. In Queens between Queensboro Plaza and Vernon Blvd-Jackson Av.

2. In Manhattan between Times Sq-42 St and 34 St-Hudson Yards.

 trains run via the  to/from Astoria-Ditmars Blvd, providing additional service between Queens and Manhattan.

 42 Street Shuttle will run overnight.

 

Planned - Boarding Change

No  between Lexington Av/63 St and 57 St-7 Av

Nov 11 - 14, Fri 9:45 PM to Mon 5:00 AM

 trains run in two sections:

1. Between 96 St and Lexington Av/63 St every 12 minutes days and evenings

2. Between Coney Island-Stillwell Av and 57 St-7 Av and via the  to/from Astoria-Ditmars Blvd every 15 minutes days and evenings

To continue your trip, connect between  trains using the  at 34 St-Herald Sq  and Lexington Av/63 St.

An out-of-station walking transfer is also available between the Lexington Av/63 St  and Lexington Av/59 St  stations.

 

The "What's Happening" section for the  and the are listed differently so I assume there are track work between Lex 63 and 5 Av-57 thus there isn't a need for special  service but I could be wrong.

Edited October 14, 2022 by CyclonicTrainLookout

[BM5 via Woodhaven]

^^^Every 15 minutes along the entire between Astoria and Coney Island? SMH.

But somehow the 2nd Avenue shuttle is more frequent. 🤦

They could have just rerouted the to Astoria while extending the to 96th, that's what they did earlier this year and for the longest of time too before the pandemic. 

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Speaking of extending the train, not as interesting, but overnight service from November 5-6 only will operate to/from Essex Street. 

[LGA Link N Train]

I sometimes wonder who’s behind the process for GO’s cause some reroutes to avoid GO’s are straight up weird or confusing 

[CyclonicTrainLookout]

Also of speaking extended service, overnight  service for the week of Nov 7-11 will run to/from Bowling Green due to track maintenance. 

[Kamen Rider]

I could get more details for you guys but they don’t tell us this stuff that far in advance.

If I had to hazard a guess, one job is piggybacking on the other.

[Lex]

3 hours ago, BM5 via Woodhaven said:

^^^Every 15 minutes along the entire between Astoria and Coney Island? SMH.

But somehow the 2nd Avenue shuttle is more frequent. 🤦

They could have just rerouted the to Astoria while extending the to 96th, that's what they did earlier this year and for the longest of time too before the pandemic. 

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Speaking of extending the train, not as interesting, but overnight service from November 5-6 only will operate to/from Essex Street. 

That depends on staff levels. I get the impression that the subway is expected to be short on staff that weekend (compared to what we've often seen, anyway).

[Kamen Rider]

I know one of the weekends coming up is a promotional test and a lot of the TOs I was talking to a week ago were taking it or worried too many crews would be short handed. Last Saturday I was working the N shuttle in Queens, and many of the TOs hade their noses in study material when not out on a run down to QBP.

[darkstar8983]

4 hours ago, Lex said:

That depends on staff levels. I get the impression that the subway is expected to be short on staff that weekend (compared to what we've often seen, anyway).

It’s probably a typo, and the  to / from Astoria is every 12 minutes and the  shuttle is every 15 minutes. For the Astoria ridership, it’s fine, but a 15-minute headway on the Brighton Line is a big no-no

[Lex]

53 minutes ago, darkstar8983 said:

It’s probably a typo, and the  to / from Astoria is every 12 minutes and the  shuttle is every 15 minutes. For the Astoria ridership, it’s fine, but a 15-minute headway on the Brighton Line is a big no-no

I really hope it's either a case of mixing up the times or bungling an attempt to state that Astoria service will run every 15 minutes while the rest of the trains will short-turn in Manhattan, much like how weekday  service ran while the  was sleeping. If it's neither, then this'll be a real shitshow.

[Wallyhorse]

6 hours ago, Lex said:

That depends on staff levels. I get the impression that the subway is expected to be short on staff that weekend (compared to what we've often seen, anyway).

Would not surprise me.  Friday 11/11 is Veterans Day (mainly a school holiday) and I'm sure some staff who have kids had already asked for that day and the weekend off to do mini-vacations to take advantage of that.

[CyclonicTrainLookout]

5 hours ago, darkstar8983 said:

It’s probably a typo, and the  to / from Astoria is every 12 minutes and the  shuttle is every 15 minutes. For the Astoria ridership, it’s fine, but a 15-minute headway on the Brighton Line is a big no-no

Turns out it was a typo as the 2nd Avenue shuttle is every 15 mins while the mainline  is every 12 minutes.

[Kamen Rider]

10 hours ago, Wallyhorse said:

Would not surprise me.  Friday 11/11 is Veterans Day (mainly a school holiday) and I'm sure some staff who have kids had already asked for that day and the weekend off to do mini-vacations to take advantage of that.

no they have not because they can not.

No, seriously. You ask for your days off three weeks in advance, and for Veterans day, that's NEXT week. 

[Wallyhorse]

7 hours ago, Kamen Rider said:

no they have not because they can not.

No, seriously. You ask for your days off three weeks in advance, and for Veterans day, that's NEXT week. 

Veterans day is the day before this GO (Nov. 12-14) takes place.

The probably knows people already plan to take Veterans Day off because that is a school holiday and some are likely not to be available 11/11-13 because they plan to be on mini-vacations to take advantage of a rare Fri-Sun three-day weekend.

[Kamen Rider]

Once again you have developed a hyper fixation for an answer you came up with and won’t listen to us when we tell you that’s not how the world works…

Sure, the MTA is is expecting a lot of people to possibly ask for the day off… but here’s the thing… they are not guaranteed it.

At all.

Veterans Day is a normal schedule for us. 

 

[darkstar8983]

1 hour ago, Kamen Rider said:

Once again you have developed a hyper fixation for an answer you came up with and won’t listen to us when we tell you that’s not how the world works…

Sure, the MTA is is expecting a lot of people to possibly ask for the day off… but here’s the thing… they are not guaranteed it.

At all.

Veterans Day is a normal schedule for us. 

 

The one thing is that yes the subway trains will be carrying mostly air on that Friday.

[Daniel The Cool]

The  Train G.O between 205th Street and 161st Street has been canceled this weekend due to the ALCS Series.

[CyclonicTrainLookout]

Planned - Part Suspended

No  at Jamaica-Van Wyck, Sutphin Blvd-Archer Av-JFK Airport and Jamaica Center-Parsons/Archer

Nov 18 - 21, Fri 11:45 PM to Mon 5:00 AM

 trains run between World Trade Center and Kew Gardens-Union Tpke and via the  to/from Jamaica-179 St.

179 St-bound  trains skip Briarwood and Sutphin Blvd during this time.

Free shuttle buses run between Kew Gardens-Union Tpke and Jamaica Center-Parsons/Archer, stopping at Briarwood, Jamaica-Van Wyck and Sutphin Blvd-Archer Av-JFK Airport.

• Transfer between  trains and free shuttle buses at Kew Gardens-Union Tpke.

What's happening?

We're making communications improvements

[Kamen Rider]

Making up for the lack of downtime the line had over the summer.

[Maxwell179]

On 9/27/2022 at 1:44 AM, Maxwell179 said:

runs via the in both directions between DeKalb Av and 47-50 Sts-Rockefeller Ctr, and via the between 5 Av/53 St and Queens Plaza

Oct 22 - 23, Sat and Sun, 5:30 AM to 11:59 PM

Now Changed To :

  runs via the in both directions between DeKalb Av and W 4 St-Wash Sq and via the  between W 4 St-Wash Sq and Queens Plaza  

Oct 22 - 23 and Oct 29 - 30, Sat and Sun, 5:30 AM to 11:59 PM

[darkstar8983]

On 10/21/2022 at 8:23 PM, Maxwell179 said:

Now Changed To :

  runs via the in both directions between DeKalb Av and W 4 St-Wash Sq and via the  between W 4 St-Wash Sq and Queens Plaza  

Oct 22 - 23 and Oct 29 - 30, Sat and Sun, 5:30 AM to 11:59 PM

This way it notes that the  covers the local stops at 14 St and 23 St

[Lawrence St]

On 10/21/2022 at 8:23 PM, Maxwell179 said:

Now Changed To :

  runs via the in both directions between DeKalb Av and W 4 St-Wash Sq and via the  between W 4 St-Wash Sq and Queens Plaza  

Oct 22 - 23 and Oct 29 - 30, Sat and Sun, 5:30 AM to 11:59 PM

They really shouldn't be using the for weekend service changes because that will just cause confusion.

[Vulturious]

1 hour ago, Lawrence St said:

They really shouldn't be using the for weekend service changes because that will just cause confusion.

True, but it is the most accurate when it comes to the routing it's taking.

[Trainmaster5]

10 hours ago, Vulturious said:

True, but it is the most accurate when it comes to the routing it's taking.

I’m glad you pointed that out. What other service is traveling along 6th Avenue to Queens Plaza ? That’s why it’s worded like that.