lupojohn Posted April 5, 2014 Share #276 Posted April 5, 2014 Maybe it's best not to post my opinions on these topics. I see how it is. Then what pray tell would you do to keep service running while also maintaining the system to provide said service? There's no way you could always have both. There will have to be times when certain lines have to be shut down because it just isn't possible to run service while also performing maintenance work. Break it up. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TrainFanInfinity Posted April 5, 2014 Share #277 Posted April 5, 2014 Just saying, but hey, it's not like they're eliminating ALL the service on those lines leaving people stranded. There's shuttle buses too; they're not non-existent. Just leave early and you'll get wherever on time. (Even though I never have rode a shuttle bus myself excluding the shuttle during Sandy... ) 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lupojohn Posted April 5, 2014 Share #278 Posted April 5, 2014 Just saying, but hey, it's not like they're eliminating ALL the service on those lines leaving people stranded. There's shuttle buses too; they're not non-existent. Just leave early and you'll get wherever on time. (Even though I never have rode a shuttle bus myself excluding the shuttle during Sandy... ) Just looking out for the common man. I've only rode one shuttle bus outside of the Rockaways shuttle buses. The shuttle from 125th Street. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CenSin Posted April 5, 2014 Share #279 Posted April 5, 2014 Break it up.It's already broken up. How else do you want to schedule it? Move some of these services changes to the weekdays? Oh wait. They're already working the middays, and service at night is horrible too with all the flagging! Maybe it's best not to post my opinions on these topics. I see how it is.You're in America. You don't simply give up to the tyranny of the majority, but I guess that's what most folks do nowadays. Yes, I will bash you for your opinions, but I'll respect you more if you didn't cave in to other people's opinions so easily. Just looking out for the common man.The common man is being screwed over by the government withholding funding from public transportation. You'll see things happen as lot faster instead of this fix-as-things-break policy if more money went into the system. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lupojohn Posted April 5, 2014 Share #280 Posted April 5, 2014 You're in America. You don't simply give up to the tyranny of the majority, but I guess that's what most folks do nowadays. Yes, I will bash you for your opinions, but I'll respect you more if you didn't cave in to other people's opinions so easily. We can have respectful conversations without ''bashing'' me or anyone else for their opinions if you disagree. The reason I said I wouldn't post is because I don't have the privilege of the inside knowledge that most here do. It's not worth the running argument. As an example, I had an idea about service being brought back, but I know how that idea would be received here. End of story. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobtehpanda Posted April 5, 2014 Share #281 Posted April 5, 2014 Maybe it's best not to post my opinions on these topics. I see how it is. Break it up. In general, it's cheaper for the MTA to do it in long blocks and quicker, because the workers don't have to drop everything when a train passes by, and any time lost can easily be made up (whereas if you lose half an hour in a five hour time slot, that's 10% of your time right there). Just be glad this isn't Chicago, which closes entire lines for up to six months at a time to literally tear everything down and then build it back up. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CenSin Posted April 5, 2014 Share #282 Posted April 5, 2014 Just be glad this isn't Chicago, which closes entire lines for up to six months at a time to literally tear everything down and then build it back up.It's a wonder they don't just build a redundant line nearby. Those long shutdowns ought to incur enough headaches and expenses to justify one. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobtehpanda Posted April 5, 2014 Share #283 Posted April 5, 2014 It's a wonder they don't just build a redundant line nearby. Those long shutdowns ought to incur enough headaches and expenses to justify one. In some cases, there were redundant lines nearby; the Green Line shutdown in the '90s was very close to the southern Red Line, which coincidentally shut down last year for six months for the exact same repairs. Considering they were able to remove all the slow zones, demolish and rebuild the platforms, replace the entire track bed, clean and repaint all the stations, and make every station on the line ADA accessible, I'd say that the benefits are pretty worth the drastic consequences. The Forest Hills elevator project has been going on for how long now? Bus service in Chicago is also much faster than it is here, so that might be why people respond better (you can just take a bus to another connecting line downtown). 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndrewJC Posted April 6, 2014 Share #284 Posted April 6, 2014 You can pick two out of three: Service runs fine, Service runs 24/7, and MTA fixes 30 years' worth of maintenance backlog so that service continues to run fine. You don't stop going to the dentist because it's painful and you don't like it. Actually, you can't even pick two. Systems that shut down every night also have weekend GO's. This weekend, for instance, the London Underground website shows outages on the Central line for six stops, on most of the Metropolitan line northwest of Wembley Park, on the Piccadilly line for seven stops, on the entire Edgware branch of the Northern line, and on a segment of the DLR. Line shutdowns are unavoidable. In fact, we're fortunate to have express tracks and reroute options that often allow some semblance of service to continue running, where other systems would have to shut down. Maybe it's best not to post my opinions on these topics. I see how it is. There's nothing wrong with posting your opinions, but don't be surprised if others disagree. Just looking out for the common man. Who do you think benefits from adequate system maintenance? We can have respectful conversations without ''bashing'' me or anyone else for their opinions if you disagree. Nobody's bashing you. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lupojohn Posted April 6, 2014 Share #285 Posted April 6, 2014 Yes, I will bash you for your opinions Actually, Andrew............ There's nothing wrong with posting your opinions, but don't be surprised if others disagree. I have no problem at all with people disagreeing. Everyone agreeing would make it boring. It seems as though at times only one side of the topic is considered(see the Wood). 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amtrak7 Posted April 8, 2014 Share #286 Posted April 8, 2014 Weekends of May 2 and 9: Franklin Av Junction outages: busing Flatbush-Franklin, line suspended with buses south of Franklin and to 148. During the 74 St suspensions LIRR will cross honor, but only Woodside-Penn, not Flushing. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lance Posted April 12, 2014 Share #287 Posted April 12, 2014 Changes for the Flushing Line Outages: On the weekend of May 2, instead of there being no service west of 74 St-Broadway, 7 trains will terminate once again at Queensboro Plaza. That has been rescheduled to May 31-June 1. Work planned for the weekend of May 17 has been cancelled entirely. 7 trains will run normally that weekend. A couple of other changes are in place for later this fall and into next year. Details here. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
N6 Limited Posted April 12, 2014 Share #288 Posted April 12, 2014 Weekends of May 2 and 9: Franklin Av Junction outages: busing Flatbush-Franklin, line suspended with buses south of Franklin and to 148. The SBS bus lanes should help this shuttle out. I saw tweets about the Astoria line shuttle being horrible. Why doesn't the MTA suggest nearby bus routes as an alternative? Instead of everyone cramming on the shuttle bus they can take nearby, parallel bus routes, or routes that take users to other subway lines which would even out passengers and increase utility of existing service. For example with this shuttle, riders can use the B44, B43, B41, B103, etc. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobtehpanda Posted April 13, 2014 Share #289 Posted April 13, 2014 The SBS bus lanes should help this shuttle out. I saw tweets about the Astoria line shuttle being horrible. Why doesn't the MTA suggest nearby bus routes as an alternative? Instead of everyone cramming on the shuttle bus they can take nearby, parallel bus routes, or routes that take users to other subway lines which would even out passengers and increase utility of existing service. For example with this shuttle, riders can use the B44, B43, B41, B103, etc. They do sometimes. Didn't they advise people to use the M4 (or something) during the Washington Heights/Inwood FasTraks? Most times though, they don't want people to overburden local routes, particularly if it's a midsegment service disruption. Best to segregate the normal passengers from the subway overflow. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S78 via Hylan Posted April 16, 2014 Share #290 Posted April 16, 2014 This weekend will be relatively light in terms of construction according to the website. The only major things are: The Suspended and the being split again. But then again, things could change at any given notice. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fresh Pond Posted April 18, 2014 Share #291 Posted April 18, 2014 Weekends of May 2 and 9: Franklin Av Junction outages: busing Flatbush-Franklin, line suspended with buses south of Franklin and to 148. I read the G.O poster they have it for it today while heading to work. Shit gonna be bad... trains are only going to Franklin Av (dunno how they are gonna turn back) and trains are only going to Atlantic Av. There's gonna be 3 different shuttle buses... 1. All Stops from Franklin Av to Flatbush Av 2. Local stops from Franklin Av to Utica Av ONLY 3. Nonstop between Franklin Av and Utica Av, then all Stops from Utica Av to New Lots Av 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RollOver Posted April 18, 2014 Share #292 Posted April 18, 2014 I think they're probably just gonna use that diamond crossover switch south of Eastern Parkway-Brooklyn Museum and the would originate/terminate at either the southbound local track or northbound local track. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S78 via Hylan Posted April 18, 2014 Share #293 Posted April 18, 2014 (edited) They did this G.O. a few years back since I was in Brooklyn that weekend. Problem was, they had both the and the turning at Franklin Av which resulted in many delays. I remember well 'cause I was on a and we were held in Eastern Parkway for about a good ten minutes. Edited April 18, 2014 by S78 via Hylan 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lupojohn Posted April 18, 2014 Share #294 Posted April 18, 2014 There's gonna be 3 different shuttle buses... 1. All Stops from Franklin Av to Flatbush Av 2. Local stops from Franklin Av to Utica Av ONLY 3. Nonstop between Franklin Av and Utica Av, then all Stops from Utica Av to New Lots Av Good day for some shuttle bus fanning. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
6 Lexington Ave Posted April 18, 2014 Share #295 Posted April 18, 2014 (edited) This will happen during all May weekends + Memorial Day as per twitter. Edited April 18, 2014 by 6 Lexington Ave 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fresh Pond Posted April 18, 2014 Share #296 Posted April 18, 2014 Good day for some shuttle bus fanning. I work weekends so that screws me over royally lol 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S78 via Hylan Posted April 18, 2014 Share #297 Posted April 18, 2014 If I was still living in my old neighborhood, it would have screwed me over too. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MHV9218 Posted April 22, 2014 Share #298 Posted April 22, 2014 What's this / GO mean in terms of equipment? Everything stays normal? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S78 via Hylan Posted April 22, 2014 Share #299 Posted April 22, 2014 What's this / GO mean in terms of equipment? Everything stays normal?Pretty much since each line will still have access to its yard. I could be wrong. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amtrak7 Posted April 24, 2014 Share #300 Posted April 24, 2014 (edited) Same time as the outages...buses replace trains between Marcy Ave and Broadway Junction/Myrtle Ave. Weekend of May 9: No Rockaway-Lefferts, southbound express 80 St-Aqueduct. Edited April 24, 2014 by Amtrak7 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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