Fan Railer Posted October 30, 2008 Share #126 Posted October 30, 2008 Found a link on Wikipedia. R188 contract will consist of 23 base order cars with an option of 163 cars. the remainder of the contract includes 7 base conversions of R142/R142A cars with an option for 124 conversions and 3 base conversion kits with an option of 186 kits. total CBTC compatible cars would be 506 cars. Link: http://www.mta.info/nyct/procure/contracts/r34188sol.pdf Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UlmerPark B6 Posted October 30, 2008 Share #127 Posted October 30, 2008 Found a link on Wikipedia. R188 contract will consist of 23 base order cars with an option of 163 cars. the remainder of the contract includes 7 base conversions of R142/R142A cars with an option for 124 conversions and 3 base conversion kits with an option of 186 kits. total CBTC compatible cars would be 506 cars. Link: http://www.mta.info/nyct/procure/contracts/r34188sol.pdf You shouldn't believe Wikipedia. I mean i believe the contract, but this all falls apart if the can't a builder for building. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fan Railer Posted October 30, 2008 Share #128 Posted October 30, 2008 You shouldn't believe Wikipedia. I mean i believe the contract, but this all falls apart if the can't a builder for building. im not saying i believe wikipedia (although i have an editing account), i found the link on wikipedia (all info in previous post is from link) while editing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trainfan22 Posted October 31, 2008 Share #129 Posted October 31, 2008 This train has been confimed by the MTA, however the cars will be called R34188 and some R142/A's will be converted to have CBTC... http://www.mta.info/nyct/procure/contracts/r34188sol.pdf Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
7LineFan Posted October 31, 2008 Share #130 Posted October 31, 2008 however the cars will be called R34188 I doubt that. R34 is already taken by the R11 rebuilds. And that's the solicitation number, R34188. R188 still is the most plausible name to me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MTR Admiralty Posted October 31, 2008 Share #131 Posted October 31, 2008 I doubt that. R34 is already taken by the R11 rebuilds. And that's the solicitation number, R34188. R188 still is the most plausible name to me. Well technically, the numbers go according to equipment contracts (revenue rolling stock, track equipment, work programmes) for the subway system. You can't have R34188 right after R179 or something. Not logical. R34188 won't happen for at least 6 generations. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UlmerPark B6 Posted October 31, 2008 Share #132 Posted October 31, 2008 This train has been confimed by the MTA, however the cars will be called R34188 and some R142/A's will be converted to have CBTC... http://www.mta.info/nyct/procure/contracts/r34188sol.pdf I thought they are gonna order extra R142/A. Or are they just converting them to CBTC because if they are they might run on the . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fan Railer Posted October 31, 2008 Share #133 Posted October 31, 2008 now let me make this clear. All NYC subway cars have the 34 in the order designation (ie, R34160, R3468, R3426, and R3432). you just don't refer to the 34 because it's there in every contract number. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LTA1992 Posted November 2, 2008 Share #134 Posted November 2, 2008 Well technically, the numbers go according to equipment contracts (revenue rolling stock, track equipment, work programmes) for the subway system. You can't have R34188 right after R179 or something. Not logical. R34188 won't happen for at least 6 generations. Not True, The went from R68 to R130/R131 to R142/R143 to R160 to R179 and next after, R188. Oh its very much possible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SubwayGuy Posted November 2, 2008 Share #135 Posted November 2, 2008 Not True, The went from R68 to R130/R131 to R142/R143 to R160 to R179 and next after, R188. Oh its very much possible. No, the 34 is part of the number but not referenced by people discussing it, and what was posted before is correct. The reason for the jump from R68 to R110 was because of a whole bunch of other contracts. Not every contract is a subway car. That's why you have R1's, R4's and R6's but no R2's (order for motor trucks for the R1's), just an example. Some are nonrevenue work equipment, like R77 locomotives... There's a listing of all the R contract numbers somewhere out there on the net, but I dont' remember exactly where... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fan Railer Posted November 2, 2008 Share #136 Posted November 2, 2008 No, the 34 is part of the number but not referenced by people discussing it, and what was posted before is correct. The reason for the jump from R68 to R110 was because of a whole bunch of other contracts. Not every contract is a subway car. That's why you have R1's, R4's and R6's but no R2's (order for motor trucks for the R1's), just an example. Some are nonrevenue work equipment, like R77 locomotives... There's a listing of all the R contract numbers somewhere out there on the net, but I dont' remember exactly where... well here it is... http://thejoekorner.quuxuum.org/rroster.htm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MTR Admiralty Posted November 3, 2008 Share #137 Posted November 3, 2008 No, the 34 is part of the number but not referenced by people discussing it, and what was posted before is correct. The reason for the jump from R68 to R110 was because of a whole bunch of other contracts. Not every contract is a subway car. That's why you have R1's, R4's and R6's but no R2's (order for motor trucks for the R1's), just an example. Some are nonrevenue work equipment, like R77 locomotives... There's a listing of all the R contract numbers somewhere out there on the net, but I dont' remember exactly where... Jeez... never saw 34 part of any rolling stock order number... say 34160... or 34142... But nice to know. Agreed, these are contract numbers. And the hippos happened to be the 68th Contract. I remember R one two something is a work car for the IRT. It looks like the R62 but has virtually no windows on the side. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SubwayGuy Posted November 3, 2008 Share #138 Posted November 3, 2008 Jeez... never saw 34 part of any rolling stock order number... say 34160... or 34142... But nice to know.Agreed, these are contract numbers. And the hippos happened to be the 68th Contract. I remember R one two something is a work car for the IRT. It looks like the R62 but has virtually no windows on the side. Yup that's the R127. Doesn't have air conditioning Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R32 3348 Posted November 3, 2008 Share #139 Posted November 3, 2008 Jeez... never saw 34 part of any rolling stock order number... say 34160... or 34142... But nice to know.Agreed, these are contract numbers. And the hippos happened to be the 68th Contract. I remember R one two something is a work car for the IRT. It looks like the R62 but has virtually no windows on the side. The '34' is on announcements and more in-depth MTA info, like on detailed capital plans like the one trainfan22 posted up. Nowhere else, IINM. And also, the R127 has no windows, one door and its all yellow on the inside. Very interesting find. Can be commonly found at Forest Hills and 179th St. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fresh Pond Posted November 5, 2008 Share #140 Posted November 5, 2008 My vote is for Siemens(7) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BroadwayBuffer Posted November 7, 2008 Share #141 Posted November 7, 2008 The reason for the jump from R68 to R110 was because of a whole bunch of other contracts. Not every contract is a subway car. That's why you have R1's, R4's and R6's but no R2's (order for motor trucks for the R1's), just an example. They must be using the "R" designation for more contracts than they did in the past. We never saw jumps in the numbers anywhere near as large as we're seeing now before it went from 68 to 110 and so on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R32 3348 Posted November 8, 2008 Share #142 Posted November 8, 2008 They must be using the "R" designation for more contracts than they did in the past. We never saw jumps in the numbers anywhere near as large as we're seeing now before it went from 68 to 110 and so on. It's also having to do with the tme gap. All cars R32-R46 were ordered within 10-15 years of each other. After that, the had a few jobs to do which required the R contract, inckuding overhauling work cars and stuff like that. Within another 10 years it jumped from 68 to 110. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MTR Admiralty Posted November 8, 2008 Share #143 Posted November 8, 2008 Based on the procurement notice, Bombardier and Kawasaki would be the only two qualifying manufacturers to take part of this contract. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fan Railer Posted November 9, 2008 Share #144 Posted November 9, 2008 well here it is...http://thejoekorner.quuxuum.org/rroster.htm updated version: http://www.thejoekorner.com/cars/rroster.htm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LTA1992 Posted November 12, 2008 Share #145 Posted November 12, 2008 No, the 34 is part of the number but not referenced by people discussing it, and what was posted before is correct. The reason for the jump from R68 to R110 was because of a whole bunch of other contracts. Not every contract is a subway car. That's why you have R1's, R4's and R6's but no R2's (order for motor trucks for the R1's), just an example. Some are nonrevenue work equipment, like R77 locomotives... There's a listing of all the R contract numbers somewhere out there on the net, but I dont' remember exactly where... But even with work cars, we still see gaps between numbers and eqiupment. And two, maybe the number just dosent sound right and they skip it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R32 3348 Posted November 12, 2008 Share #146 Posted November 12, 2008 Not really. The first gap in orders was the R147. http://www.thejoekorner.com/cars/rroster.htm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KeystoneRegional Posted November 17, 2008 Share #147 Posted November 17, 2008 Please, watch the Nazi Banksters Crimes Ripple Effect at http://jforjustice.co.uk/banksters Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R32 3348 Posted November 17, 2008 Share #148 Posted November 17, 2008 Well, it is interesting for me to hear and quiet a surprise. I feel this is just redundant to make a decision like this. I feel they should use this money elsewhere like fixing and renovating station, trackage and signals because the R-44's, R-46's, R-62's and R-68's are running fine! Just get all of the R-32, R-38, R-40 (Regular and Slant) and R42 replaced. Use the extra money elsewhere and Forest Hills-71st Ave needs a renovation just like Queens Plaza, Roosevelt and Union Turnpike! The replacements for every R32-R42 have all been financed so this is different money than money that could replace these cars. Also, it's not redundant because the wants to get CBTC on the line to test out the system before bringing it to Queens Boulevard. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BroadwayBuffer Posted November 18, 2008 Share #149 Posted November 18, 2008 Use the extra money elsewhere and Forest Hills-71st Ave needs a renovation just like Queens Plaza, Roosevelt and Union Turnpike! Now why would you pick Forest Hills–71 to renovate? Familiar with that location? If you branch out down to Brooklyn, you'll notice the Sea Beach as well as other/most BMT Southern Div Stations are in a greater need of some basic renovations. That said, of the three examples you mentioned, Union T'pike is a good example of what should at some point be done at Continental and stations in general since they didn't completely re-tile the walls and tile the floor as was done at Queens Plz and Roosevelt. Both of those turned out well, but when money is tight they shouldn't overdo it with those extra amenities. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NYtransit Posted November 18, 2008 Share #150 Posted November 18, 2008 this is freakin awsome! yay! finally,the gets R142A + R188's! that is what i call a nice combo! just hope it starts at 2009 or 2010 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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