ABCDEFGJLMNQRSSSWZ Posted May 2, 2023 Share #326 Posted May 2, 2023 The sense I get (which may be very wrong I have less knowledge on this than many here) is that Queens BLVD CBTC has had a lot of issues due to the more complex and interlined nature of the line. As someone pointed out earlier, it seems a lot of issues have been happening around the Queens Plaza where there's a relatively complex junction. Reguardless of if this is part of the problem, the CBTC rollout on QBLVD has been inexcuseable. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kamen Rider Posted May 2, 2023 Share #327 Posted May 2, 2023 Much like how the tracks were worked on, interlining is also not to blame. It’s the zone controllers. The computers that talk to the trains. the E, M and F don’t enter CBTC territory at QBP, only the R does. the E and M pick it up in Manhattan and the F at Queensbridge. The zone controllers issue the trains their movement authority. Without it, in CBTC mode, the train won’t move. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ABOGbrooklyn Posted May 2, 2023 Share #328 Posted May 2, 2023 (edited) What is the status of CBTC on QB? How much (%) is finished local and express tracks? Also east of Kew Gardens..? Edited May 2, 2023 by ABOGbrooklyn 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kamen Rider Posted May 2, 2023 Share #329 Posted May 2, 2023 CBTC on the Corridor runs from Kew Gardens to Queensbridge and 50th street. R’s enter and exit CBTC as they travel the 11th street cut. the east end install has only just started. Operationally, trains are all running in “Automated Train Protection Manual” mode, meaning the TO is still driving, but what they do is regulated by the computer. this also means on my end, that the computers sense if the train is properly birthed in the station and enables me to open the doors. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RestrictOnTheHanger Posted May 2, 2023 Share #330 Posted May 2, 2023 Queens Plaza is a mess, more often than not trains are creeping into the station. Causes backups all along 53rd St too. Is this being caused by the zone controller issue? What exactly is the problem with them? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RTOMan Posted May 3, 2023 Share #331 Posted May 3, 2023 20 hours ago, ABOGbrooklyn said: What is the status of CBTC on QB? How much (%) is finished local and express tracks? Also east of Kew Gardens..? They running GOs now for the wiring and bracket placement east of Kew... Give it a few years.. they still got switch work to do at 179 and Biarwood... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LGA Link N Train Posted May 3, 2023 Share #332 Posted May 3, 2023 12 hours ago, RTOMan said: They running GOs now for the wiring and bracket placement east of Kew... Give it a few years.. they still got switch work to do at 179 and Biarwood... I got a basic idea of how this GO will play out, but could subvert expectations. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RTOMan Posted May 4, 2023 Share #333 Posted May 4, 2023 20 hours ago, LGA Link N Train said: I got a basic idea of how this GO will play out, but could subvert expectations. Hopefully i wont be around that area for the 179 Job but the Briawood one most likely... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
N6 Limited Posted May 22, 2023 Share #334 Posted May 22, 2023 Would CBTC allow seamless extensions to Queens Plaza and/or Continental? At least when the isn’t running in Queens (ie. Late nite/weekends)? An extension on weekends would help with access to Downtown BK, Williamsburg, LIC, Queens Center Mall, and Forest Hills . 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kamen Rider Posted May 22, 2023 Share #335 Posted May 22, 2023 It’s always going to be far, far more complicated than that as to why the G gets treated the way it does. Like… there are loads of times where it would have been prudent to extend the G back to at least Queens Plaza, but they just don’t do it. Like when the E is running over the F in both directions and the 53rd tube is closed, if you want a Queens Corridor station from the G, you’re on the 7 ether to Roosevelt or Manhattan. I mean, an F train I was working had to be sent down the crosstown once due to a 12-9 at Jay street and I’m pretty sure it was also a night when the E was via 63rd street. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
QM1to6Ave Posted June 7, 2023 Share #336 Posted June 7, 2023 Im curious about something...when I take the (E), I see the signals show green or yellow over green until the train is approaching, and then they switch to flashing green. Is there a reason for that setup, rather than having it just flash green the entire time? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darkstar8983 Posted June 7, 2023 Share #337 Posted June 7, 2023 6 hours ago, QM1to6Ave said: Im curious about something...when I take the (E), I see the signals show green or yellow over green until the train is approaching, and then they switch to flashing green. Is there a reason for that setup, rather than having it just flash green the entire time? I think the double stacked signals are those that are on the approach to interlockings and they need to display which configuration they’re set up in before the CBTC flashing green is shown. If I’m not mistaken, green/yellow over GREEN means the train stays in the “straight ahead” alignment but if it’s green/yellow over YELLOW, then the train will “diverge” 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RTOMan Posted June 7, 2023 Share #338 Posted June 7, 2023 8 hours ago, QM1to6Ave said: Im curious about something...when I take the (E), I see the signals show green or yellow over green until the train is approaching, and then they switch to flashing green. Is there a reason for that setup, rather than having it just flash green the entire time? That happens only in interlocking areas where a CBTC train is approaching... Sometimes a train is in BYPASS and the signals will display a way side signal aspect what you just was in the beginning. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
QM1to6Ave Posted June 7, 2023 Share #339 Posted June 7, 2023 1 hour ago, RTOMan said: That happens only in interlocking areas where a CBTC train is approaching... Sometimes a train is in BYPASS and the signals will display a way side signal aspect what you just was in the beginning. 3 hours ago, darkstar8983 said: I think the double stacked signals are those that are on the approach to interlockings and they need to display which configuration they’re set up in before the CBTC flashing green is shown. If I’m not mistaken, green/yellow over GREEN means the train stays in the “straight ahead” alignment but if it’s green/yellow over YELLOW, then the train will “diverge” Thank you both! Very interesting 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RTOMan Posted June 7, 2023 Share #340 Posted June 7, 2023 38 minutes ago, QM1to6Ave said: Thank you both! Very interesting You are welcome! 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Q65A Posted June 20, 2023 Share #341 Posted June 20, 2023 How is CBTC taught to train operators? Is it done during the induction process for all new T/Os? Do they have CBTC info in the induction manual or is it covered by separate manual(s)? Thanks! 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RTOMan Posted June 23, 2023 Share #342 Posted June 23, 2023 On 6/20/2023 at 9:35 AM, Q65A said: How is CBTC taught to train operators? Is it done during the induction process for all new T/Os? Do they have CBTC info in the induction manual or is it covered by separate manual(s)? Thanks! CBTC is taught to new TOs.... Yes there is a manual which one gets when in training about a week of it. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Q65A Posted June 23, 2023 Share #343 Posted June 23, 2023 9 hours ago, RTOMan said: CBTC is taught to new TOs.... Yes there is a manual which one gets when in training about a week of it. Thank you sir! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RTOMan Posted June 23, 2023 Share #344 Posted June 23, 2023 12 minutes ago, Q65A said: Thank you sir! You are welcome! 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ABOGbrooklyn Posted June 25, 2023 Share #345 Posted June 25, 2023 What is the status of QBL CBTC? Is all four tracks from 50th St to Kew Gardens complete? How long will east of Kew Gardens to Jamaica take? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RTOMan Posted June 25, 2023 Share #346 Posted June 25, 2023 7 hours ago, ABOGbrooklyn said: What is the status of QBL CBTC? Is all four tracks from 50th St to Kew Gardens complete? How long will east of Kew Gardens to Jamaica take? Other than OCC taking control of the 21st street Queens Plaza area giving out line ups at times(No comment).. Same as before... As for East Of Kew? Get back to this post around 2026.. Maybe... 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ABOGbrooklyn Posted June 26, 2023 Share #347 Posted June 26, 2023 (edited) 12 hours ago, RTOMan said: Other than OCC taking control of the 21st street Queens Plaza area giving out line ups at times(No comment).. Same as before... As for East Of Kew? Get back to this post around 2026.. Maybe... Does "same as before" mean its 100% West of Kew Gardens? Sorry I haven't been keeping up on here.. Edited June 26, 2023 by ABOGbrooklyn 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kamen Rider Posted June 26, 2023 Share #348 Posted June 26, 2023 We’ve been fully operational west of Kew to as far as 50th/8th for over a year. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RTOMan Posted June 26, 2023 Share #349 Posted June 26, 2023 3 hours ago, ABOGbrooklyn said: Does "same as before" mean its 100% West of Kew Gardens? Sorry I haven't been keeping up on here.. That's correct... 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
N6 Limited Posted June 26, 2023 Share #350 Posted June 26, 2023 (edited) 9 hours ago, Kamen Rider said: We’ve been fully operational west of Kew to as far as 50th/8th for over a year. Does CBTC decide which southbound gets the lineup at 75th Ave ( when the E is running full express)? Edited June 26, 2023 by N6 Limited 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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