Cait Sith Posted December 28, 2010 Share #26 Posted December 28, 2010 yep, that's what they wanted... the Bx8 OUT of their neighborhood, and their own lil shuttle to/from the subway. and as for that last statement you made: I'll be the first one cheering in elation when that happens ! Main reason why they wanted it out, they didnt like the CNG buses....what the hell kind of bullshit excuse is that? They were complaining that the CNG buses were too loud and there's "too frequent" service, like wtf?! Now they gotta deal with 30 minute headways on that Bx24 with probably even louder and probably more raggedy buses (if it runs out of Eastchester...) How much you wanna bet that they will throw a fit over the 30 minute headways and the type of buses running on the line.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cotb16 Posted December 28, 2010 Share #27 Posted December 28, 2010 Main reason why they wanted it out, they didnt like the CNG buses....what the hell kind of bullshit excuse is that? They were complaining that the CNG buses were too loud and there's "too frequent" service, like wtf?! Now they gotta deal with 30 minute headways on that Bx24 with probably even louder and probably more raggedy buses (if it runs out of Eastchester...) How much you wanna bet that they will throw a fit over the 30 minute headways and the type of buses running on the line.... Those who did complain about the buses were on Stadium Avenue, whom most have probably never lived on a street with a bus route. They haven't dealt with this before June, so I'm not too surprised about these Country Club riders. As for the new Bx24, my guess is that they'll demand that it gets extended to Westchester Square for the shopping access to the Square and to Crosby Avenue. As for the Bx5, I think the MTA didn't reroute this bus because there wasn't that much demand for it on Bruckner Blvd between Country Club Road and Crosby/Logan Avs. The Q50's added stop at Baisley Av sufficed since most on that portion on Bruckner are drivers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Q43LTD Posted December 28, 2010 Share #28 Posted December 28, 2010 I still think the (Bx5) should go back on Bruckner. Crosby doesn't really need 2 buses. As for Country Club, this is a temporary victory for them. I presume the Bx24 will be a TA route from Gun Hill. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mark1447 Posted December 28, 2010 Author Share #29 Posted December 28, 2010 I still think the (Bx5) should go back on Bruckner. Crosby doesn't really need 2 buses. As for Country Club, this is a temporary victory for them. I presume the Bx24 will be a TA route from Gun Hill. They already have the Q50 but idk if it makes a lot of stops on Bruckner? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EE Broadway Local Posted December 28, 2010 Share #30 Posted December 28, 2010 When will the new BX4A, BX8, BX24, and Q50 schedules be posted? I haven't seen anything yet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mark1447 Posted December 28, 2010 Author Share #31 Posted December 28, 2010 When will the new BX4A, BX8, BX24, and Q50 schedules be posted? I haven't seen anything yet. Might be this or next week before the change Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EE Broadway Local Posted December 28, 2010 Share #32 Posted December 28, 2010 LOL! On The Bronx Page, you have to scroll to the bottom and it says QBX1 replaced by BX23 and Q50 with links to the new schedules. So it's just the BX4A, BX8 and BX24 we need. Might be this or next week before the change Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Q43LTD Posted December 29, 2010 Share #33 Posted December 29, 2010 They already have the Q50 but idk if it makes a lot of stops on Bruckner? The (Q50) makes stops at Jarvis and Baisley before the (Bx5) rejoins it at Crosby Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B35 via Church Posted December 29, 2010 Share #34 Posted December 29, 2010 Main reason why they wanted it out, they didnt like the CNG buses....what the hell kind of bullshit excuse is that? They were complaining that the CNG buses were too loud and there's "too frequent" service, like wtf?! Now they gotta deal with 30 minute headways on that Bx24 with probably even louder and probably more raggedy buses (if it runs out of Eastchester...) How much you wanna bet that they will throw a fit over the 30 minute headways and the type of buses running on the line.... lol... Of course.... I think I made this point in an older thread/post.... People that complain about TOO MUCH bus service, you cannot satisfy... If frequency's too high, they'll bitch about 'x' amount of buses in their neighborhood... If frequency's too low, they'll bitch about inadequate service - even though they don't take the damned things on any type of regular basis.... There is no "just right" in the equation, if you're wondering... very dualistic type of people... Problem is, is that they want just enough bus service to where they can take it at THEIR leisure, on THEIR terms (of course, neglecting the fact that it's PUBLIC transportation)... but at the same time, wanting to live & maintain that quiet, lax, "noise & air pollution" free type of (quality) lifestyle that was most likely the determining factor to even moving to such an area.... It's all like dividing by zero, bro... But is the ridership high between Parkchester and Tremont Avenue? As far as the old Bx14 vs. the Bx4, is there more demand for travel from Parkchester towards The Hub, or Parkchester towards Pelham Bay Park/Country Club? I would probably say The Hub, since there is more activity in that direction. few people took the old bx14 b/w E tremont av & PBP (Westchester sq. included).... ..and to be honest, I don't think there's heavy demand for bus service IN Parkchester, to(wards) either the two areas.... PARKchesterians (lol) love themselves that [much like PARK Slope love themselves that ] it's one of those things where, if the bx4 is right there, they'll take it... but if it's no where in sight, they'll take the train.... you'll find a slightly higher concentration of people @ Westchester Sq. embarking on the 4 towards the hub, than you will at Hugh Grant Cir.... Once this Bx4a comes to pass, I seriously think that last statement I made, might change.... This is good for the core route though, at least it'll cease the whole "all of the route parallels the subway, and thus it'll make it easier to cut it" argument.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rell Posted December 29, 2010 Share #35 Posted December 29, 2010 When will the new BX4A, BX8, BX24, and Q50 schedules be posted? I haven't seen anything yet. Assuming you meant online, I have no clue. But I saw the schedule for the Bx4A at Westchester Square on Monday (yes I was out there... wasn't good) while I was waiting for the Bx31. I would have taken a picture, but the strong winds didn't help too much. :confused: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amtrak7 Posted December 30, 2010 Share #36 Posted December 30, 2010 They're all online. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BJC Posted December 30, 2010 Share #37 Posted December 30, 2010 it's time for the MTA to grow some balls and tell those people no!More money being wasted. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IRT Bronx Express Posted December 30, 2010 Share #38 Posted December 30, 2010 They should've revived the former Bx14 route instead of creating a dinky shuttle and a Bx4 variant. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bknightshadow45 Posted December 31, 2010 Share #39 Posted December 31, 2010 Here is the updated schedules for the Bx8 http://www.mta.info/nyct/bus/schedule/bronx/bx008cur.pdf Bx4/Bx4A http://www.mta.info/nyct/bus/schedule/bronx/bx004cur.pdf Bx24 http://www.mta.info/nyct/bus/schedule/bronx/bx024cur.pdf The bus schedules goes in effect January 2, 2011. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gotham Bus Co Posted December 31, 2010 Share #40 Posted December 31, 2010 Bx24http://www.mta.info/nyct/bus/schedule/bronx/bx024cur.pdf The Bx24 has the same schedule every day. Instead of printing the same thing three times, it would have made more sense to print one set of times and label it, "Every Day Service." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amtrak7 Posted December 31, 2010 Share #41 Posted December 31, 2010 The Bx24 has the same schedule every day. Instead of printing the same thing three times, it would have made more sense to print one set of times and label it, "Every Day Service." I, for one, don't expect the "daily" schedule. I did a double take when I saw that on an NJT 559 schedule (the only route like that?). When people just look at the schedule, they assume the first one is weekday, the second one is Saturday... It might give the impression this is a weekday-only route. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GreatOne2k Posted December 31, 2010 Share #42 Posted December 31, 2010 Bx24 runs a bit later than the Bx23 to/from Pelham Bay. http://mta.info/busco/schedules/bx023cur.pdf http://mta.info/nyct/bus/schedule/bronx/bx024cur.pdf Bx23 needs service out of Pelham Bay after 10pm a lot more than the Bx24 (which will likely be empty). The Bx24 should have all runs after 8:30pm cut and use the savings to extend the 11:30pm Sunday night Bx39 to Clason Pt (instead of being a shuttle to Gun Hill Rd). Bx23 is reimbursed by NYC so that route should run until 11pm at least. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gotham Bus Co Posted January 2, 2011 Share #43 Posted January 2, 2011 It sucks tho since the could of bring back the BX14 or use the BX23 and extend to Country Club while the BX4A can be used. Sending the Bx23 to Country Club would just raise the same complaints about too many buses. A separate route works better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gotham Bus Co Posted January 2, 2011 Share #44 Posted January 2, 2011 Here is the updated schedules for the Bx8http://www.mta.info/nyct/bus/schedule/bronx/bx008cur.pdf Bx4/Bx4A http://www.mta.info/nyct/bus/schedule/bronx/bx004cur.pdf Bx24 http://www.mta.info/nyct/bus/schedule/bronx/bx024cur.pdf The bus schedules goes in effect January 2, 2011. Interesting that the new schedules are up, but not the new Bronx map. Meanwhile, the new Brooklyn map was posted at least a week ago. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mysterious2train Posted January 2, 2011 Share #45 Posted January 2, 2011 Interesting that the new schedules are up, but not the new Bronx map. Meanwhile, the new Brooklyn map was posted at least a week ago. Although for the Brooklyn Bus Map, the back (with the Map Notes) still hasn't been updated [on the website] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
via White Plains Road Posted January 4, 2011 Share #46 Posted January 4, 2011 will the Bx4A/24 use New Flyer Galaxy buses Bx4A=60fters Bx24=one 40fters every 30 mins! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mark1447 Posted January 4, 2011 Author Share #47 Posted January 4, 2011 LMFAOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO The Bx8 map gets this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1ytCEuuW2_A Because i see the BX14 Route there on Westcheser/Crosby http://www.mta.info/nyct/bus/schedule/bronx/bx008cur.pdf Here is the updated schedules for the Bx8http://www.mta.info/nyct/bus/schedule/bronx/bx008cur.pdf Bx4/Bx4A http://www.mta.info/nyct/bus/schedule/bronx/bx004cur.pdf Bx24 http://www.mta.info/nyct/bus/schedule/bronx/bx024cur.pdf The bus schedules goes in effect January 2, 2011. Bx24 runs a bit later than the Bx23 to/from Pelham Bay. http://mta.info/busco/schedules/bx023cur.pdf http://mta.info/nyct/bus/schedule/bronx/bx024cur.pdf Bx23 needs service out of Pelham Bay after 10pm a lot more than the Bx24 (which will likely be empty). The Bx24 should have all runs after 8:30pm cut and use the savings to extend the 11:30pm Sunday night Bx39 to Clason Pt (instead of being a shuttle to Gun Hill Rd). Bx23 is reimbursed by NYC so that route should run until 11pm at least. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LRG Posted January 4, 2011 Share #48 Posted January 4, 2011 Um, I know this may sound like a no-brainer, but why not combine the Bx23 and Bx24? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
checkmatechamp13 Posted January 4, 2011 Share #49 Posted January 4, 2011 That is a good idea (it would give Country Club direct access to Bay Plaza and all of the connections available in Co-Op City), but I think Country Club would prefer to remain isolated from the rest of The Bronx. (That is why they complained about the Bx8 running through the neighborhood-they felt that it would bring in "outsiders") Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mark1447 Posted January 4, 2011 Author Share #50 Posted January 4, 2011 That is a good idea (it would give Country Club direct access to Bay Plaza and all of the connections available in Co-Op City), but I think Country Club would prefer to remain isolated from the rest of The Bronx. (That is why they complained about the Bx8 running through the neighborhood-they felt that it would bring in "outsiders") The Bx14 had lower headways compared to what the Bx24 has, so if they dont want outsiders, then why have higher headways.. Unless its for thos around parkchester? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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