R179 Discussion Thread

[Maxwell179]

2 hours ago, trainfan22 said:

Train is at Far Rock - Mott Ave right now. Wasn't even looking for it, since I didn't an chance to ride it on the Rockaway elevated structure the first time I rode it, Guess I'll do that now lol.

if anyone looking for it , it’s leaving 175th heading to Far Rock

[Jemorie]

1 hour ago, whz1995 said:

You are saying Capacity V.S. Frequency. MTA won't let you have both at the same time.

You need to learn how to read and ruminate. That's not what I said. I said that the  being full-length means an increase in service, basically. Therefore, an extra four trainsets and a half (36 cars) mean headways increase to 7.5 minute headways from current 10 minute headways, consisting of two options which are different in some way:

1. Have the  use full-length 600 feet long trains of either R32 equipment or R46 equipment currently running on the line; add an additional four trainsets and a half (36 cars) (if you prefer R32 equipment) to make it 180 cars (all in full length 600 feet long ten-car sets) instead of 144 cars (all in short length 480 feet long eight-car sets). The entire line's fleet being made up of R46 equipment (144 cars) is also the same full length 600 feet equipment as well since they are 75 foot long which doesn't require any extra cars needed.

Or...

2. Have all 18  trainsets remain short-length 480 feet long trains of either R160 or R179 equipment and add an additional four trainsets (32 cars) to increase the number to 22 instead of 18.

Both options are still the same exact thing. An increase in 7.5 minute headway from 10 minute headway. It could go either way. No matter.

[Daniel The Cool]

10 hours ago, whz1995 said:

 is not packed at all besides from lower Manhattan to mid town in rush hour. I am not seeing any benefit to have full length

From someone who lives by the  Train, I strongly disagree that the  Train is empty or not even crowded when its packed as hell especially during the Rush Hours. I've even noticed the  Trains being packed during the evenings as well. 

[trainfan22]

Today I rode an 179  that had an software issue of some sort. Train pulled into 34th St, doors opened the announcements went normally until it said the next stop was Kingsbridge Rd and the FIND shut off, seconds later, the FIND came back on and everything was normal again. When I got off the train the outside sign said "Via Concourse". That was one confused train.

[Enjineer]

1 hour ago, trainfan22 said:

When I got off the train the outside sign said "Via Concourse".

Guess it was trying to be a 

[Around the Horn]

3220 and 3221 coming in tonight

[Coney Island Av]

Good. So far we have:

3050-3069 (in service)

3074-3197 (in service)

3206-3217 (testing)

3218-3221 (being delivered)

This means that we only have 3070-73, 3222-25, 3226-29, 3230-33, and 3234-37 left to be delivered before delivery of the five-car sets potentially gets underway. 

[VIP]

4 hours ago, Coney Island Av said:

Good. So far we have:

3050-3069 (in service)

3074-3197 (in service)

3206-3217 (testing)

3218-3221 (being delivered)

This means that we only have 3070-73, 3222-25, 3226-29, 3230-33, and 3234-37 left to be delivered before delivery of the five-car sets potentially gets underway. 

Where’s 3198-3201 and 3202-3205 ??

[Railfan 007]

1 minute ago, VIP said:

Where’s 3198-3201 and 3202-3205 ??

Those should also be testing. They have been delivered, so if they are not in service yet, they are still testing. Surprised @Coney Island Av missed those sets lol

 

[Around the Horn]

3201-3198, 3202-3205 (coupled in that order) are in service as of this morning

[Enjineer]

30 minutes ago, Around the Horn said:

3201-3198, 3202-3205 (coupled in that order) are in service as of this morning

Awesome, we've crossed the 3200 mark! Seems like every week or so now a new 179 is going into service on the C 

[subwaycommuter1983]

41 minutes ago, Enjineer said:

Awesome, we've crossed the 3200 mark! Seems like every week or so now a new 179 is going into service on the C 

I agree. I rode the C twice yesterday, both r179's.

[Enjineer]

1 hour ago, subwaycommuter1983 said:

I rode the C twice yesterday, both r179's.

Speaking of which, does anyone know how much of the C's fleet now is made up of R179s? I know the C has, what, 18 sets assigned to it, so the 179s have to be nearing half of that by now

[VIP]

5 hours ago, Enjineer said:

Speaking of which, does anyone know how much of the C's fleet now is made up of R179s? I know the C has, what, 18 sets assigned to it, so the 179s have to be nearing half of that by now

There’s 7 sets now, but There’s gonna be 9 sets all together. Kinda like the way when the  had R160’s from East New York. 

[Jemorie]

Are there any leftover R160s still running on the  or have they been transferred back to the east?

[Coney Island Av]

16 minutes ago, Jemorie said:

Are there any leftover R160s still running on the  or have they been transferred back to the east?

No. All of the 's R160s got transferred back to ENY. The last sets of R160s went back to the  recently a few weeks ago.

To quote from the R32 Fleet Swap Thread:

On 2/8/2019 at 9:39 AM, m2fwannabe said:

The last 12 R-160A-1's were moved 207 to East New York at end of service Wednesday evening, February 6.  Two moves:  8645-48 with 9967-70, then 8625-28 by itself.  No more R-160A-1 on .

[Enjineer]

1 hour ago, VIP said:

There’s 7 sets now, but There’s gonna be 9 sets all together

Very nice, so when all is said and done the C will be half R179s. Nice. 

[U-BahnNYC]

So how many more left until the 5-car production sets start arriving?

[djtoro7]

11 minutes ago, U-BahnNYC said:

So how many more left until the 5-car production sets start arriving?

There's 40 cars left in the 4 car configuration to be delivered. Once the 10-car train finishes 30 day revenue testing then we should expect the 5 car sets to be delivered. 

[VIP]

3010-3019 is doing VERY well. Should pass 30-day passenger test without any reset. 

[Jemorie]

9 hours ago, VIP said:

There’s 7 sets now, but There’s gonna be 9 sets all together. Kinda like the way when the  had R160’s from East New York. 

 

8 hours ago, Coney Island Av said:

No. All of the 's R160s got transferred back to ENY. The last sets of R160s went back to the  recently a few weeks ago.

To quote from the R32 Fleet Swap Thread:

 

7 hours ago, Enjineer said:

Very nice, so when all is said and done the C will be half R179s. Nice. 

Sometimes, all this makes me feel like keeping the 222 R32s and 48 R42s in service is sorta pointless now, since they were originally planned to be retired by the R179s. Not that I'm saying they should be thrown out the window though, because as I understand, in case the R179s were to crap out again, the R32s and R42s would need to be reactivated to make service for the time being.

[Enjineer]

1 hour ago, Jemorie said:

Sometimes, all this makes me feel like keeping the 222 R32s and 48 R42s in service is sorta pointless now

Well the 42s have yet to be reassigned somewhere outside of ENY, but the 32s are still definitely good to help bolster service. The R179s are just eliminating the fleet shortage; scrapping those cars now and possibly recreating that problem isn't a great idea – considering the pilot 211 is slated to arrive next year it's not like the R32s would be running for another decade, anyways. 

[Around the Horn]

3206-3213 are doing burn in to Rockaway Park tonight

 

[JFK Depot]

On 2/27/2019 at 8:28 AM, Enjineer said:

Well the 42s have yet to be reassigned somewhere outside of ENY, but the 32s are still definitely good to help bolster service. The R179s are just eliminating the fleet shortage; scrapping those cars now and possibly recreating that problem isn't a great idea – considering the pilot 211 is slated to arrive next year it's not like the R32s would be running for another decade, anyways. 

From what I was told they are in Pitkin... not to be used unless extremely necessary.... not retired or active at this time 

[Enjineer]

38 minutes ago, JFK Depot said:

From what I was told they are in Pitkin...

I was just at Broadway Junction last Thursday, and I saw multiple sets of 42s. IIRC they moved to Pitkin and then back to ENY – or some are at Pitkin and some are at ENY