Around the Horn Posted September 27, 2017 Share #16701 Posted September 27, 2017 LOL Transit Center beat me to it... That's what you get for putting it out on Facebook before you get home (except I found it at Wall Street not Bowling Green) Anyway here's the pics that I took: 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MysteriousBtrain Posted September 27, 2017 Share #16702 Posted September 27, 2017 So Etix is what it will take to replace metrocards at this point? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Calvin Posted September 28, 2017 Share #16703 Posted September 28, 2017 When the does the Super Express run, does it start from the Corona Yard or at Main St? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Calvin Posted September 29, 2017 Share #16704 Posted September 29, 2017 (edited) 2146-2150: Corona to Westchester. There is only 1 R142A in-service on the (6) . The Jerome put-in is now a regular Westchester R62A. Edited September 29, 2017 by Calvin 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Union Tpke Posted September 29, 2017 Share #16705 Posted September 29, 2017 7 minutes ago, Calvin said: 2146-2150: Corona to Westchester. There is only 1 R142A in-service on the . The Jerome put-in is now a regular Westchester R62A. How many left at Corona? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daniel The Cool Posted September 29, 2017 Share #16706 Posted September 29, 2017 25 minutes ago, Calvin said: The Jerome put-in is now a regular Westchester R62A. I wouldn't say that yet. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GojiMet86 Posted September 29, 2017 Share #16707 Posted September 29, 2017 11 hours ago, Calvin said: When the does the Super Express run, does it start from the Corona Yard or at Main St? The Mets Super Express trains start to receive passengers at Willets Point. They get trains ready on the express track about 2 hours into the game. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RailRunRob Posted September 29, 2017 Share #16708 Posted September 29, 2017 (edited) On 9/27/2017 at 6:50 PM, Around the Horn said: LOL Transit Center beat me to it... That's what you get for putting it out on Facebook before you get home (except I found it at Wall Street not Bowling Green) Anyway here's the pics that I took: Judging by the mirror looks like it reads QR coding as well. I do see an RF (Tap to Pay) symbol as well looks like a hybrid solution. http://www.justride.com/ The company behind the tech maybe they aren't able to license the oyster card technology after all Edited September 29, 2017 by RailRunRob 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Around the Horn Posted September 29, 2017 Share #16709 Posted September 29, 2017 This looks like its just for a smortphone app judging by their website... 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MassTransitHonchkrow Posted September 29, 2017 Share #16710 Posted September 29, 2017 2 hours ago, Around the Horn said: This looks like its just for a smortphone app judging by their website... It's a companion QR reader for the eTix app, which will allow MNR & LIRR riders who have combo tickets to pay their subway fare as an alternative to swiping. I do wonder how the transition will go for EasyPay customers. It really won't be much of one given I already manage my card online. I originally joined when I lived in Westechester because I got sick of having to buy MetroCards over and over. I googled "an easy to pay metrocard" and the rest is 'golden' history. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RailRunRob Posted September 29, 2017 Share #16711 Posted September 29, 2017 3 hours ago, Around the Horn said: This looks like its just for a smortphone app judging by their website... 20 minutes ago, MassTransitHonchkrow said: It's a companion QR reader for the eTix app, which will allow MNR & LIRR riders who have combo tickets to pay their subway fare as an alternative to swiping. I do wonder how the transition will go for EasyPay customers. It really won't be much of one given I already manage my card online. I originally joined when I lived in Westechester because I got sick of having to buy MetroCards over and over. I googled "an easy to pay metrocard" and the rest is 'golden' history. Yep.. the eTix app creates a QR code that's then read by the turnstile or conductors reader. Don't understand why they just don't go right to NFC fully kinda a waste with QR. Here's the other major company in the transit fare game. https://www.cubic.com/Transportation Note they also created the Metrocard tech as well. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RestrictOnTheHanger Posted September 30, 2017 Share #16712 Posted September 30, 2017 Maybe QR could be for single rides? It may be less expensive than single use RFID I also saw that LIRR/MNR users would be able to use QR codes in a pilot. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RailRunRob Posted October 1, 2017 Share #16713 Posted October 1, 2017 (edited) 21 hours ago, RestrictOnTheHanger said: Maybe QR could be for single rides? It may be less expensive than single use RFID I also saw that LIRR/MNR users would be able to use QR codes in a pilot. Should be on par in fact NFC maybe cheaper in the long run. QR very much like UPC needs visual confirmation (Mirror) extra step and point of failure. On the Database side, NFC can hold more points of information. Single rides could just deduct from any tap to pay system, Visa, Mastercard, Andorid , Apple pay. London and Chicago have been doing this for some time it's proven tech. Seem's extra for nothing. Edited October 1, 2017 by RailRunRob 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lawrence St Posted October 1, 2017 Share #16714 Posted October 1, 2017 But How will these machines know if your disabled? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RailRunRob Posted October 1, 2017 Share #16715 Posted October 1, 2017 (edited) 15 minutes ago, Lawrence St said: But How will these machines know if your disabled? When you say disabled are you referring to reduced fare? Two ways off the top. From a digital standpoint with a smartphone, you could easily create digital card via Apple, Samsung or Android pay. The persons account ID would just let the system know he or she qualifies for reduced fare all in the signup process. Same with the e-Tix system currently in use the QR would have embed information for scans to know it's reduced and the backend would just deduct and reload the riders account based on their reduced rate Easy-peasy. Remember the MTA is also going to have the option to issue physical cards as well with RF tech embedded. The MTA would prob mail special cards to riders very similar to MetroCards today. Whether reloading online or at a machine, the system would make the proper adjustments. All already in practice in other Cities, not brain surgery here. Edited October 1, 2017 by RailRunRob 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MassTransitHonchkrow Posted October 1, 2017 Share #16716 Posted October 1, 2017 22 hours ago, RestrictOnTheHanger said: Maybe QR could be for single rides? It may be less expensive than single use RFID I also saw that LIRR/MNR users would be able to use QR codes in a pilot. It's possible they could rehash the QR code for the same ticket, because sticking to one could be a security risk as it could be replicated. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RailRunRob Posted October 1, 2017 Share #16717 Posted October 1, 2017 (edited) 20 minutes ago, MassTransitHonchkrow said: It's possible they could rehash the QR code for the same ticket, because sticking to one could be a security risk as it could be replicated. That's a non-starter for unlimited and monthly setups. Single rides are simple it's inventory based system for the most part. QR generates a unique ID number tied to that scan once it's redeemed it can't be used again the system would have voided it at that point. I've created these types of QR options for festival's in the past very similar. Full RF would bypass this altogether. Edited October 1, 2017 by RailRunRob 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Around the Horn Posted October 1, 2017 Share #16718 Posted October 1, 2017 I'm pretty sure the answer to this is no, but I'll ask it anyway... Does anyone know if some sort of NTT programs exist for the Staten Island Railway? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
quadcorder Posted October 2, 2017 Share #16719 Posted October 2, 2017 16 hours ago, Around the Horn said: I'm pretty sure the answer to this is no, but I'll ask it anyway... Does anyone know if some sort of NTT programs exist for the Staten Island Railway? R211S 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RailRunRob Posted October 2, 2017 Share #16720 Posted October 2, 2017 17 hours ago, Around the Horn said: I'm pretty sure the answer to this is no, but I'll ask it anyway... Does anyone know if some sort of NTT programs exist for the Staten Island Railway? Id say no there's no physical connection between SIR and the mainline. The LIRR and MNR share more of a connection I believe they had programs carry over from older Rolling stock (R44,46). Don't quote me tho. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
quadcorder Posted October 2, 2017 Share #16721 Posted October 2, 2017 Sorry, I misread what you meant - I expect such programs will be created only when the R211S is delivered, and probably only for R211 trains. (I am very suspicious of the idea that any LIRR or MNRR programs would be available on NTTs, since they cannot legally carry passengers on railway track.) 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RailRunRob Posted October 2, 2017 Share #16722 Posted October 2, 2017 (edited) 21 minutes ago, quadcorder said: Sorry, I misread what you meant - I expect such programs will be created only when the R211S is delivered, and probably only for R211 trains. (I am very suspicious of the idea that any LIRR or MNRR programs would be available on NTTs, since they cannot legally carry passengers on railway track.) Not run trains via LIRR right of way. Older cars had LIRR programs in even of service disruptions in fact if memory serves correctly there was a P train signup for just an event a non stop route via the from Penn Station to Jamaica. I'm partly basing my comment on that historical reasoning. Way more likely than a SIR program. Edited October 2, 2017 by RailRunRob 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RailRunRob Posted October 2, 2017 Share #16723 Posted October 2, 2017 (edited) Speaking of programs I have the Koito software manual for the program that creates the FIND and route programs. My guys at Kawasaki sent me a copy a few years back. Can try to upload if anyone's interested. Edited October 2, 2017 by RailRunRob 8 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lance Posted October 2, 2017 Share #16724 Posted October 2, 2017 4 hours ago, RailRunRob said: Not run trains via LIRR right of way. Older cars had LIRR programs in even of service disruptions in fact if memory serves correctly there was a P train signup for just an event a non stop route via the from Penn Station to Jamaica. I'm partly basing my comment on that historical reasoning. Way more likely than a SIR program. To add on, what purpose would there be to have route options for the Staten Island Railway when the cars can never run there under their own power? Also, to clarify a point you made, the 44s and 46s have (present-tense) codes for generic LIRR and Metro-North signage, which would be used in theory if there was a need to substitute rail service for subway service. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Around the Horn Posted October 2, 2017 Share #16725 Posted October 2, 2017 I'd like to see that manual @RailRunRob 1 hour ago, Lance said: To add on, what purpose would there be to have route options for the Staten Island Railway when the cars can never run there under their own power? Also, to clarify a point you made, the 44s and 46s have (present-tense) codes for generic LIRR and Metro-North signage, which would be used in theory if there was a need to substitute rail service for subway service. LOL it was just a extremely random thought I had while I was on an R44. Figured I'd ask it even if the answer was kinda obvious... 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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