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Haven't seen any video of the crash.

It looks like 2481 X38 was on 23rd Street heading towards the East River and the FDR to Brooklyn, and the Top View bus, Van Hool TD925 335 (a converted open-deck Coach USA Megabus), was on 1st Avenue heading north.

According to this map, the Night Tour (which starts at 6 PM) does indeed run up 1st Avenue.

335 probably T-boned 2481 as 2481 was running on 23rd Street. 2481 would then have dragged 335, and the front 335 would have scrapped along the side until reaching the rear of 2481.

 

MTA Flickr uploaded their photos:

53029308011_a77de9a625_c.jpgMTA  X28 Bus Following Crash with NYC Tour Bus by Metropolitan Transportation Authority, on Flickr

53029796223_15b687d001_c.jpgMTA  X28 Bus Following Crash with NYC Tour Bus by Metropolitan Transportation Authority, on Flickr

 

You can see how 335 scrapped along the right rear of 2481.

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56 minutes ago, GojiMet86 said:

Haven't seen any video of the crash.

It looks like 2481 X38 was on 23rd Street heading towards the East River and the FDR to Brooklyn, and the Top View bus, Van Hool TD925 335 (a converted open-deck Coach USA Megabus), was on 1st Avenue heading north.

According to this map, the Night Tour (which starts at 6 PM) does indeed run up 1st Avenue.

335 probably T-boned 2481 as 2481 was running on 23rd Street. 2481 would then have dragged 335, and the front 335 would have scrapped along the side until reaching the rear of 2481.

 

MTA Flickr uploaded their photos:

53029308011_a77de9a625_c.jpgMTA  X28 Bus Following Crash with NYC Tour Bus by Metropolitan Transportation Authority, on Flickr

53029796223_15b687d001_c.jpgMTA  X28 Bus Following Crash with NYC Tour Bus by Metropolitan Transportation Authority, on Flickr

 

You can see how 335 scrapped along the right rear of 2481.

I'm surprised the MTA-uploaded photos on Flicker aren't mainly used for promotional material.

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6 hours ago, MHV9218 said:

I read the double decker actually t-boned the Prevost, which would explain the damage to the side of the bus and the high injury count. Now, how it ended up hitting the rear of the bus too, who knows.

I was surprised too. With how the buses ended up at the scene, it looked like it rear ended rather than t-boning. The articles did make it clear from the start it hit the bus on the side and the images released later made it more apparent.

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On 7/7/2023 at 6:07 AM, Mtatransit said:

Why should anyone pay the fare then at this point

Morals shouldn’t be the only thing keeping people paying

Hold on....

What tangible incentive should anyone have to pay the fare in this city? Please don't say quality of service, because the MTA has shown that increased farebox revenue does not at all translate to an improvement in that category....

25 minutes ago, trainfan22 said:

There was an accident at Sutphin & Archer, the intersection is closed off so all the buses though the area are detoured.

*facepalm*

Never a dull moment over there.... Don't miss commuting to/from/around LIRR Jamaica at all.

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3 hours ago, MysteriousBtrain said:

Buses equipped with bike racks as of 7/8/2023 (corrections welcome): 

4020-4037, 4140-4142, 4247, 4345, 4485-4488, 5463, 5991, 6003, 6016, 7053-7063, 8231-8256

I noticed on that day, 4022 doesn't have a bike rack. Maybe it was being fixed while it was in service or that either removed or never received. 

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Reference: Youtube video 4022 Q50 MTA Bus
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3 minutes ago, Kingsbridgeviewer382 said:

I believe the M60 SBS is also on the list to have their units retrofitted with bike racks some time in the future.

Yes they are. From what I checked through the link, the said routes (including the current Q44-SBS) that goes through the Bridge are getting bike racks. 

https://www.timeout.com/newyork/news/the-mta-is-installing-a-bunch-of-bike-racks-in-front-of-buses-011723

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2 hours ago, SevenEleven said:

They are. The S79 is one of the routes for the bike rack expansion. 

Hopefully, all the buses on the S79 have bike racks when that happens. Nowadays the S53/93 which are supposed to have bike racks show up with no bike rack like half the time with the bike rack-equipped buses showing up on other routes.

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7 minutes ago, Lil 57 said:

Hopefully, all the buses on the S79 have bike racks when that happens. Nowadays the S53/93 which are supposed to have bike racks show up with no bike rack like half the time with the bike rack-equipped buses showing up on other routes.

They may just put them only on the 2019 batch to keep a consistent order (8573-8613, 8719-8729). But, they can show up on other routes in-service out of Yukon Depot. I'm thinking they may leave the 2015-16 batch alone. 

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Not sure where else to post this, but I really appreciate it when the bus operator of the X28 skips the useless battery pl/greenwich st stop. They ask beforehand if anyone needs that stop, and if nobody says they need it, they take the shortcut to trinity pl/rector street as was purposed and done in the early 2000's but canceled. The battery pl/greenwich st stop is an extreme bottleneck to the x28  and trips are so much smoother with the shortcut. hopefully this gets changed in the future, here is wikipedia's excerpt of this:

 

"In January 2000, the MTA announced plans to reroute northbound X27, X28, and X29 to run directly via Greenwich Street and Trinity Place after exiting the Brooklyn Battery Tunnel, instead of running via a 0.5 miles (0.80 km)-long loop consisting of West Street, Battery Place, Greenwich Street, and Trinity Place. The reroute would eliminate three left turns and the need to travel through two traffic lights. While making the loop normally took about five minutes, it could take 15 minutes or longer under heavy traffic congestion. Service to the Greenwich Street and Battery Place bus stop, used by 475 people per weekday, or 11 percent of all Manhattan-bound riders on the three routes would be discontinued. The change, which would take effect the same month, was expected to save $20,000 a year. This change had been implemented successfully on the X1 and X14 bus routes.[48] The change took effect in February 2000. In July 2000, the MTA announced plans to reverse the change for northbound X1, X12, X27, X28, and X29 service during morning peak periods due to the planned extension of the Gowanus Expressway High-Occupancy Vehicle (HOV) Lane through the Brooklyn Battery Tunnel during the morning peak period between 6 a.m. and 10 a.m.. The change would be made since the extension of the HOV lane would prevent vehicles from moving between the left and right tubes within the toll plaza at the entrance to the tunnel, meaning buses using the HOV lane would no longer be able to exit on Trinity Place. To address the fact that the reroute would restore the congested through loop, MTA Bridges and Tunnels planned to place police officers and traffic agents at key locations to regulate traffic flow. The change, which would take effect in late July 2000, was expected to increase annual operating costs by $32,000.[49]"

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https://www.fox5ny.com/news/mta-bus-box-truck-collision-upper-east-side?fbclid=IwAR1PSXJq-tdVNEyBNuYwZfSS2TNhMJRzHgc1zdXkwU74SXJ7dgoxFiw_4jo#lk1as4pghsmoiah35a7

Hope the people that were on the bus made to their destinations safe. Although, two people were injured at that time to hope for a full recovery. An M101 bus was parked at the bus stop to let passengers on and off the bus when a truck pulled up quickly behind the bus, happened this morning. 

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