BM5 via Woodhaven Posted June 16, 2021 Share #3226 Posted June 16, 2021 (edited) 4 hours ago, Lawrence St said: The does have scheduled trips to New Lots Av. The trips to Utica Av continue Not In Service to New Lots Av and stay there for the PM rush, so frankly its actually better. I am aware of that, and that still doesn't make what I said any less accurate. Also, it wouldn't necessarily be better, because now you would have trains going to New Lots, Utica, Rector Street, and Flatbush Avenue. It doesn't make sense to have trains operating towards that many destinations simultaneously, especially during the rush hour. As of right now, all trains head into Brooklyn, with a select few going out to New Lots Ave. Under that setup, you'll have some 's terminate in Manhattan, and you'll have more trains which aren't going down Nostrand Ave. Edited June 16, 2021 by BM5 via Woodhaven 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
checkmatechamp13 Posted June 17, 2021 Share #3227 Posted June 17, 2021 19 hours ago, BM5 via Woodhaven said: People would just assume those Rector Street bound trains are going to Brooklyn on the southern end, and then would have to transfer at Chambers Street if they're one of those trips to Rector Street (that or be caught off guard when the train pulls into Cortlandt Street). The also doesn't normally go to Utica. Neither does the , but it would make no sense to bring the into that if those specific trips are trains. If the trains were going to Flatbush, then I would agree with you. Ultimately, some group of riders would have to have some of their regular trips end somewhere else. Plus, swapping the Manhattan routings is common enough, that people are used to seeing trains on 7th Avenue. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BM5 via Woodhaven Posted July 22, 2021 Share #3228 Posted July 22, 2021 Significant work coming up that impacts the and trains on weekends, from Friday night to Monday morning (8/6-8/9, 8/13-8/16) https://new.mta.info/ftrain-summer21 IMO, they overcomplicated this more than it had to. It was different when the was operating on Culver back in the fall & winter in one continuous section, but if the is operating on the Culver line, then the and swap was completely unnecessary. It could have simply been to WTC, to Delancey and call it a day. If they were concerned about capacity with the 8-car R179s on the potentially leading to overcrowding, then at most I would have swapped the and the , so that there is consistent 10-car trains throughout the weekend (and since the already operates via 8th Avenue on a regular basis). 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paulrivera Posted July 23, 2021 Share #3229 Posted July 23, 2021 9 hours ago, BM5 via Woodhaven said: then the and swap was completely unnecessary. It could have simply been to WTC, to Delancey and call it a day. They've had such a hard-on putting the and on 8th Avenue and the on 6th Avenue during the weekends. I swear we're gonna need blue and bullets and an orange bullet on this site before long. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CenSin Posted July 23, 2021 Share #3230 Posted July 23, 2021 4 hours ago, paulrivera said: They've had such a hard-on putting the and on 8th Avenue and the on 6th Avenue during the weekends. I swear we're gonna need blue and bullets and an orange bullet on this site before long. If we wanted to be comprehensive, we would already have more of the established ones like the yellow and (13). 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lance Posted July 31, 2021 Share #3231 Posted July 31, 2021 On 7/22/2021 at 5:45 PM, BM5 via Woodhaven said: Significant work coming up that impacts the and trains on weekends, from Friday night to Monday morning (8/6-8/9, 8/13-8/16) https://new.mta.info/ftrain-summer21 IMO, they overcomplicated this more than it had to. It was different when the was operating on Culver back in the fall & winter in one continuous section, but if the is operating on the Culver line, then the and swap was completely unnecessary. It could have simply been to WTC, to Delancey and call it a day. If they were concerned about capacity with the 8-car R179s on the potentially leading to overcrowding, then at most I would have swapped the and the , so that there is consistent 10-car trains throughout the weekend (and since the already operates via 8th Avenue on a regular basis). Seriously. I have a feeling this is all driven by the operations and crew picks. As you said, this could be more easily done by sending the to Euclid and terminating the at Delancey/Essex. Nothing is gained on a rider's standpoint by rerouting the and yet again, nor are any of the corridors out of service since both 8th Ave / 53rd St and 6th Ave / 63rd St are still in use. The usual reason for having the stop at Hoyt-Schermerhorn is to facilitate a quick transfer between it and the extended for 6th Ave / Culver service. With the on 8th Ave, that purpose is lost, so the whole reroute becomes pointless. If it is a matter of crew choice and the longer-run jobs need to come out of 179 Street, they can easily flip the Queens terminals for the two lines so that the JC-Delancey route is roughly the same as JC-WTC. There is precedence for flipping the terminals as they've done so continuously for nearly a year with the and for Clark St work a few years back. Also, it's much less confusing for casual riders since everyone knows the serves 8th Ave and the runs along 6th. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Abba Posted August 1, 2021 Share #3232 Posted August 1, 2021 So this weekend the is terminating at 238th st. Question: why can’t it terminate there when there is a switch problem or signal problem at 242? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrsman Posted August 1, 2021 Share #3233 Posted August 1, 2021 Quite clear that they do not really do this based on the customer perspective. Ideally, the public designations of these trains should be the ones that make the most sense for the customers. Obviously, when there is construction, the trains can't do their regular routing, but at least in the above example, it seems clear that E should stay on 8th and F should stay on 6th. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lawrence St Posted August 1, 2021 Share #3234 Posted August 1, 2021 2 hours ago, Abba said: So this weekend the is terminating at 238th st. Question: why can’t it terminate there when there is a switch problem or signal problem at 242? They do, however IIRC because of the "interlock" setup, trains have to switch to M track before 238th St, which is why there are those certain trips that end at 215th St. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Calvin Posted August 18, 2021 Share #3235 Posted August 18, 2021 (edited) * https://new.mta.info/signal_upgrades?fbclid=IwAR25XtwYK0Rai7CbWvibXhh2wvdcXRjlkXRWPMAJ_-08n5jbVVsEOe9h9_0 Heads up for the Culver riders on the and Crosstown : Weekdays, August 30 – September 24, Monday to Friday (except Labor Day, September 6) express service in Brooklyn will be cancelled. However, they will run regular at that time (All line stops). trains will be extended to 18 Av on the line. During the morning rush hour, trains to 18 Av will skip 4 Av-9 St, 15 St-Prospect Park, Fort Hamilton Pkwy, and Ditmas Av. trains will make these stops. Weekdays, September 20 to October 1, Monday to Friday Both and trains will run at slower speeds between Jay St-MetroTech and Carroll St. During rush hours, some trains will skip Bergen St, Carroll St, and Smith-9 Sts. Listen to announcements to see if your train is running regularly or being bypassed, use the or next train. * Also, trains won't run to/from the Coney Island terminal starting September 18th, the week to start the fall season up to 2022. Substitute is to take the B64 after leaving Bay 50th St and another accommodation, a free shuttle bus or use the at 62nd St to New Utrecht Av . https://www.amny.com/transit/d-train-service-cuts-coming-to-southern-brooklyn-for-three-months-this-fall/amp/?fbclid=IwAR1p2yD1lFy5cpgu3YMGnBSh_mOOhr2C9ip8hxZ5MOK3Jz8Qc0oWTQLIKLs Edited August 18, 2021 by Calvin 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CenSin Posted August 19, 2021 Share #3236 Posted August 19, 2021 (edited) 2 hours ago, Calvin said: * https://new.mta.info/signal_upgrades?fbclid=IwAR25XtwYK0Rai7CbWvibXhh2wvdcXRjlkXRWPMAJ_-08n5jbVVsEOe9h9_0 Heads up for the Culver riders on the and Crosstown : Weekdays, August 30 – September 24, Monday to Friday (except Labor Day, September 6) express service in Brooklyn will be cancelled. However, they will run regular at that time (All line stops). trains will be extended to 18 Av on the line. During the morning rush hour, trains to 18 Av will skip 4 Av-9 St, 15 St-Prospect Park, Fort Hamilton Pkwy, and Ditmas Av. trains will make these stops. Weekdays, September 20 to October 1, Monday to Friday Both and trains will run at slower speeds between Jay St-MetroTech and Carroll St. During rush hours, some trains will skip Bergen St, Carroll St, and Smith-9 Sts. Listen to announcements to see if your train is running regularly or being bypassed, use the or next train. * Also, trains won't run to/from the Coney Island terminal starting September 18th, the week to start the fall season up to 2022. Substitute is to take the B64 after leaving Bay 50th St and another accommodation, a free shuttle bus or use the at 62nd St to New Utrecht Av . https://www.amny.com/transit/d-train-service-cuts-coming-to-southern-brooklyn-for-three-months-this-fall/amp/?fbclid=IwAR1p2yD1lFy5cpgu3YMGnBSh_mOOhr2C9ip8hxZ5MOK3Jz8Qc0oWTQLIKLs Interesting. I wonder what they are doing exactly. Quote Structural work for the installation of a new track crossover at the Church Av station. This switch will give us the ability to reroute service when there are unplanned disruptions or planned service changes for construction/maintenance My guess is that they will finally install switches between the local and express tracks in the tunnel. Currently, to skip Ditmas Avenue, southbound trains must also skip 4 Avenue–9 Street, 15 Street–Prospect Park, Fort Hamilton Parkway, Ditmas Avenue, Avenue I, Bay Parkway, Avenue N, and Avenue P. In the northbound direction, trains skip those station and Avenue U. Edited August 19, 2021 by CenSin 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BM5 via Woodhaven Posted August 19, 2021 Share #3237 Posted August 19, 2021 trains aren't running to Coney Island on Labor Day weekend. There's a shuttle bus from Kings Highway to Coney Island. That should have been done either the week after, or the week before IMO. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lawrence St Posted August 19, 2021 Share #3238 Posted August 19, 2021 1 hour ago, CenSin said: Interesting. I wonder what they are doing exactly. My guess is that they will finally install switches between the local and express tracks in the tunnel. Currently, to skip Ditmas Avenue, southbound trains must also skip 4 Avenue–9 Street, 15 Street–Prospect Park, Fort Hamilton Parkway, Ditmas Avenue, Avenue I, Bay Parkway, Avenue N, and Avenue P. In the northbound direction, trains skip those station and Avenue U. Right, cause that's more needed then installing a crossover before Church Av so terminating trains arent holding up the behind them... 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maxwell179 Posted August 19, 2021 Share #3239 Posted August 19, 2021 On 8/18/2021 at 10:34 PM, Lawrence St said: Right, cause that's more needed then installing a crossover before Church Av so terminating trains arent holding up the behind them... Right ! I wonder , though , why was one never built ? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lawrence St Posted August 19, 2021 Share #3240 Posted August 19, 2021 On 8/19/2021 at 2:31 AM, Maxwell179 said: Right ! I wonder , though , why was one never built ? Cause the plan was always for the to run express on Culver and never interfere with the . 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Around the Horn Posted August 20, 2021 Share #3241 Posted August 20, 2021 For cut-over of the new platform at Times Square: 42 ST CONNECTION PROJECT Aug 23, Monday to Sep 6, Monday (includes Labor Day) 42 Street Shuttle will not run - Take the instead 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lawrence St Posted August 20, 2021 Share #3242 Posted August 20, 2021 On 8/19/2021 at 8:14 PM, Around the Horn said: For cut-over of the new platform at Times Square: 42 ST CONNECTION PROJECT Aug 23, Monday to Sep 6, Monday (includes Labor Day) 42 Street Shuttle will not run - Take the instead So August 22 is the last day we will have to see the old platform? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Around the Horn Posted August 20, 2021 Share #3243 Posted August 20, 2021 10 minutes ago, Lawrence St said: So August 22 is the last day we will have to see the old platform? That is correct 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CenSin Posted August 21, 2021 Share #3244 Posted August 21, 2021 On 8/18/2021 at 10:34 PM, Lawrence St said: Right, cause that's more needed then installing a crossover before Church Av so terminating trains arent holding up the behind them... I have my doubts that they could do that. The provisions are in place for switches south of Church Avenue, but north of the station, the tunnels dip almost immediately. Hence, I do not even consider switch work north of Church Avenue a possibility. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CenSin Posted August 21, 2021 Share #3245 Posted August 21, 2021 On 8/19/2021 at 2:31 AM, Maxwell179 said: Right ! I wonder , though , why was one never built ? Take a look at the 11:00 mark: This shows that at least in the southbound direction, a switch cannot be installed. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maxwell179 Posted August 21, 2021 Share #3246 Posted August 21, 2021 1 hour ago, CenSin said: Take a look at the 11:00 mark: This shows that at least in the southbound direction, a switch cannot be installed. Oh okay, yeah , I could see how’d that be pretty impossible 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
footechicken Posted August 26, 2021 Share #3247 Posted August 26, 2021 Update on the Culver reroutes: Weekends, August 27-September 27, from 9:30 p.m. Friday to 4:30 a.m. Monday (and Labor Day, September 6) trains will run between Court Sq and Smith-9 Sts, the last stop. To continue your trip, transfer at Smith-9 Sts for the . https://new.mta.info/signal_upgrades?fbclid=IwAR25XtwYK0Rai7CbWvibXhh2wvdcXRjlkXRWPMAJ_-08n5jbVVsEOe9h9_0 to Smith - 2009 vibes again I guess 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CenSin Posted September 18, 2021 Share #3248 Posted September 18, 2021 Just passed by the tunnel portal between Ditmas Avenue and Church Avenue. It looks like a new switch was added northbound that duplicates the function of the switch just north of Ditmas Avenue. So local trains can switch to express going northbound. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Calvin Posted October 2, 2021 Share #3249 Posted October 2, 2021 https://new.mta.info/clarkst?fbclid=IwAR014bSU6mCh6PIrqOWSxKd7NgMFwlrY1rS68FnMLvwVSZxLvTGYjVVu4PE Beginning November 3rd up to April 2022, trains will skip Clark St in both directions as elevators will be fixed. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CenSin Posted October 9, 2021 Share #3250 Posted October 9, 2021 What a spin master this writer is. 💩 service is extra service! Quote Active Alerts for Extra Service ALTERNATIVE SERVICE trains local in both directions between DeKalb Av and 59 St, Brooklyn Oct 8 - 11, Fri 9:45 PM to Mon 5:00 AM trains provide connecting service in Brooklyn between 4 Av-9 St and Coney Island-Stillwell Av, during weekend planned work for the Culver Line Signal Modernization. Posted: 10/07/2021 08:25AM 🤦♂️ 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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