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The one in Manhattan? There's an X switch west of the station.

 

No...He meant the one in Brooklyn, which is 59 St-4 Av. He's trying to ask how does the late night (R) shuttle turns at the aforementioned station (as the express tracks on the 4 Av Line are out of service for storage of trains due to the weekend/holiday G.O.).

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No, Jay Street is not the main reason. If you read what he said, Whitehall Street makes a convienient terminal without interfering with stored express trains.

The (N), by the way, ran express northbound from 36 Street to Atlantic Avenue–Barclays Center also skipping DeKalb Avenue. This was probably the secondary reason why the (D) had to terminate at Whitehall Street–South Ferry. The (D) could have terminated at Atlantic Avenue–Barclays Center with the (N) switching to the local track immediately north of the station, but given the delays during previous such reroutes (even with the (D) being the only route using the express track) having the (D) and (N) share the express track to Atlantic Avenue–Barclays Center would be an extremely poor decision.

 

Going back to the real reason, even if the northbound track was clear from 36 Street to Atlantic Avenue–Barclays Center, trains were being stored on the southbound express track. If (D) trains terminated at Atlantic Avenue–Barclays Center, then it could only turn back south on the southbound express track—which is just the track that’s unavailable.

 

In my honest opinion, the (N) should have also ran on the express track from 59 Street to 36 Street to steer clear of both the (D) and (R). That would require the MTA to put some of those trains stored on the northbound express track elsewhere, but it would at least minimize traffic jams in one direction. The ride was very slow today going southbound with the (Q), (R), (N), and (D) arriving at DeKalb Avenue one after another in quick succession. The (Q) got off scot-free, but the (R) held up the (N), which held up the (D) behind it. I suspect the (R)’s slow speed might’ve been due to yet another train in front of it.

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No, Jay Street is not the main reason. If you read what he said, Whitehall Street makes a convienient terminal without interfering with stored express trains.

Absolutely it's a more conveinent terminal than Atlantic Avenue.

 

Other option would have been to extend the (J) to Coney Island via West End (or to 9th Avenue with transfer to the (D) there). 

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Absolutely it's a more conveinent terminal than Atlantic Avenue.

 

Other option would have been to extend the (J) to Coney Island via West End (or to 9th Avenue with transfer to the (D) there).

If the (J) runs to Coney Island, then the (D) is eliminated from Brooklyn. This would provide an alternative to Grand Street: Bowery. But functionally, they'd be identical minus the stop at Whitehall Street–South Ferry, so the only objection would be the fact that the (J) runs shorter trains than the (D).

 

There would be no point in running the (J)with the (D). Why would you do that?

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It's worth noting that the (R) train GO in queens (express southbound 71 to Queens Plaza) is no longer listed on the website, yet - turnstiles are very much roped off and there's a work train parked at steinway street. 

 

Meanwhile on twitter: 

 

https://twitter.com/hanjonford/status/567037543724896256

 

https://twitter.com/NYCTSubway/status/567042055881244673

 

They deny that service is changed.  

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Due to a train with mechanical problems at Bedford Park Blvd, the following service changes are in effect:

 

Uptown (4) trains skip 167 Street and run express to Burnside Ave.

 

Downtown (4) trains run express to Burnside Ave.

 

For service to/from Moshulu Pkway, Bedford Pk Blvd, KingsBridge Road and 167 Street on the downtown platform, take a uptown (4) train and transfer to a downtown (4) train.

For service to/from 167 Street on the uptown platform take a Downtown (4) train to 161 Street and transfer to a uptown (4).

 

So there having both uptown AND downtown trains go on the same platform at Burnside?

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Due to a train with mechanical problems at Bedford Park Blvd, the following service changes are in effect:

Uptown (4) trains skip 167 Street and run express to Burnside Ave.

Downtown (4) trains run express to Burnside Ave.

For service to/from Moshulu Pkway, Bedford Pk Blvd, KingsBridge Road and 167 Street on the downtown platform, take a uptown (4) train and transfer to a downtown (4) train.

For service to/from 167 Street on the uptown platform take a Downtown (4) train to 161 Street and transfer to a uptown (4).

So there having both uptown AND downtown trains go on the same platform at Burnside?

Wrong thread, dude!

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Interesting. Anyone have more details on why and if the trains will run back to Brooklyn in service?

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Re: Some northbound (B) trains will run on the Broadway Line during AM rush

Posted by j trainloco on Wed Feb 18 17:08:51 2015, in response to Some northbound (B) trains will run on the Broadway Line during AM rush, posted by gOld_12Th on Wed Feb 18 12:56:47 2015.

Looks like the 0730 and 0754 out of Brighton are the trains that will become Broadway runs. Scheduled to depart DeKalb at 0755 and 0819 respectively. They're roundtrips too.

 

In the PM, instead of sending trains to/from Broadway, there is one interval ABD. 

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They should just make them <Q>. That would make them easier to distinguish right away.

That's pretty much what they are anyway. Nearly all of the essence of the (B) is absent from the rerouted line. It touches neither the Central Park West nor Grand Concourse lines.
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Wow, not only is the section south of Brooklyn Bridge and the (4)(5) Manhattan-Brooklyn tube closed, but the Dyre Av branch is also closed as well for this whole weekend. Plus, the (5) will be running every 20 minutes between E 180 St and Grand Central. Wtf is the point of running it at all then?

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Whenever this particular GO happens the (4) and (6) get overcrowded anyway. I wouldn't say the (5) is much help; take 86 St for example, if you're going downtown why bother taking the (5) unless it's about to arrive when the (4) and (6) are running a lot more frequently?

 

Is it feasible to relay trains using the switch on the express tracks between Fulton St and Brooklyn Bridge? It really seems pointless to only run (5) trains to 42 St, and only every 20 mins. 

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They had to choose this particular day to turn (7) at Jackson Heights. Oh well, more transfers for more railfanning!

 

Also the LIRR is giving free rides between Woodside and Penn. I wish that they could done it at Flushing Main St but it might cause overcrowding and people taking advantage too much. At Woodside there are trains arriving every 5-7 minutes departing to Penn to reduce congestion.

Whenever this particular GO happens the (4) and (6) get overcrowded anyway. I wouldn't say the (5) is much help; take 86 St for example, if you're going downtown why bother taking the (5) unless it's about to arrive when the (4) and (6) are running a lot more frequently?

 

Is it feasible to relay trains using the switch on the express tracks between Fulton St and Brooklyn Bridge? It really seems pointless to only run (5) trains to 42 St, and only every 20 mins. 

 

There might be work being performed south of Brooklyn Bridge plus it might be congestion of switches.

Wow, not only is the section south of Brooklyn Bridge and the (4)(5) Manhattan-Brooklyn tube closed, but the Dyre Av branch is also closed as well for this whole weekend. Plus, the (5) will be running every 20 minutes between E 180 St and Grand Central. Wtf is the point of running it at all then?

 

It might be due to make-up from the previous weeks since it was freezing temperatures.

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E.png F.pngN.pngQ.pngR.pngS.png trains and shuttle_bus.png free shuttle bus service provide alternate service
Weekends, 2:15 AM Sat to 4:30 AM Mon, Mar 14 - 16  •  Mar 21 - 23  •  Mar 28 - 30

7.pngservice operates between Main St and Hunters Point Av*.
shuttle_bus.png buses make all stops between Queensboro Plaza and Vernon Blvd- Jackson Av.
S.png 42 Street Shuttle service operates overnight.

Note: Q.png service is extended to Ditmars Blvd, Sat 7 AM to 9 PM, Sun 9 AM to 7 PM

 

I wonder why the shuttle buses are running from Queensboro to Vernon Blvd since the (7) is running to Hunters Point Ave. Should it be a bus service only between Vernon and Hunters then riders take the (7) to connect with other trains. Maybe it to reduce amount of transfers?

 

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