MTA Dude Posted February 14, 2015 Share #501 Posted February 14, 2015 Just wondering, how do trains turn at 59th St? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trainfan22 Posted February 14, 2015 Share #502 Posted February 14, 2015 Just wondering, how do trains turn at 59th St? The one in Manhattan? There's an X switch west of the station. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RollOver Posted February 14, 2015 Share #503 Posted February 14, 2015 (edited) The one in Manhattan? There's an X switch west of the station. No...He meant the one in Brooklyn, which is 59 St-4 Av. He's trying to ask how does the late night shuttle turns at the aforementioned station (as the express tracks on the 4 Av Line are out of service for storage of trains due to the weekend/holiday G.O.). Edited February 14, 2015 by RollOver 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MysteriousBtrain Posted February 14, 2015 Share #504 Posted February 14, 2015 Just wondering, how do trains turn at 59th St? It runs on a single track south of 59 Street, while relaying in one of the express tracks. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CenSin Posted February 15, 2015 Share #505 Posted February 15, 2015 (edited) No, Jay Street is not the main reason. If you read what he said, Whitehall Street makes a convienient terminal without interfering with stored express trains.The , by the way, ran express northbound from 36 Street to Atlantic Avenue–Barclays Center also skipping DeKalb Avenue. This was probably the secondary reason why the had to terminate at Whitehall Street–South Ferry. The could have terminated at Atlantic Avenue–Barclays Center with the switching to the local track immediately north of the station, but given the delays during previous such reroutes (even with the being the only route using the express track) having the and share the express track to Atlantic Avenue–Barclays Center would be an extremely poor decision. Going back to the real reason, even if the northbound track was clear from 36 Street to Atlantic Avenue–Barclays Center, trains were being stored on the southbound express track. If trains terminated at Atlantic Avenue–Barclays Center, then it could only turn back south on the southbound express track—which is just the track that’s unavailable. In my honest opinion, the should have also ran on the express track from 59 Street to 36 Street to steer clear of both the and . That would require the MTA to put some of those trains stored on the northbound express track elsewhere, but it would at least minimize traffic jams in one direction. The ride was very slow today going southbound with the , , , and arriving at DeKalb Avenue one after another in quick succession. The got off scot-free, but the held up the , which held up the behind it. I suspect the ’s slow speed might’ve been due to yet another train in front of it. Edited February 15, 2015 by CenSin 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheKorean Posted February 15, 2015 Share #506 Posted February 15, 2015 Is the B train not running until Tuesday as well? It shares tracks with D after Atlantic Ave. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wallyhorse Posted February 15, 2015 Share #507 Posted February 15, 2015 No, Jay Street is not the main reason. If you read what he said, Whitehall Street makes a convienient terminal without interfering with stored express trains. Absolutely it's a more conveinent terminal than Atlantic Avenue. Other option would have been to extend the to Coney Island via West End (or to 9th Avenue with transfer to the there). 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CenSin Posted February 15, 2015 Share #508 Posted February 15, 2015 (edited) Absolutely it's a more conveinent terminal than Atlantic Avenue. Other option would have been to extend the to Coney Island via West End (or to 9th Avenue with transfer to the there). If the runs to Coney Island, then the is eliminated from Brooklyn. This would provide an alternative to Grand Street: Bowery. But functionally, they'd be identical minus the stop at Whitehall Street–South Ferry, so the only objection would be the fact that the runs shorter trains than the . There would be no point in running the with the . Why would you do that? Edited February 15, 2015 by CenSin 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
itmaybeokay Posted February 15, 2015 Share #509 Posted February 15, 2015 (edited) It's worth noting that the train GO in queens (express southbound 71 to Queens Plaza) is no longer listed on the website, yet - turnstiles are very much roped off and there's a work train parked at steinway street. Meanwhile on twitter: https://twitter.com/hanjonford/status/567037543724896256 https://twitter.com/NYCTSubway/status/567042055881244673 They deny that service is changed. Edited February 15, 2015 by itmaybeokay 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Javier Posted February 16, 2015 Share #510 Posted February 16, 2015 Due to a train with mechanical problems at Bedford Park Blvd, the following service changes are in effect: Uptown trains skip 167 Street and run express to Burnside Ave. Downtown trains run express to Burnside Ave. For service to/from Moshulu Pkway, Bedford Pk Blvd, KingsBridge Road and 167 Street on the downtown platform, take a uptown train and transfer to a downtown train. For service to/from 167 Street on the uptown platform take a Downtown train to 161 Street and transfer to a uptown . So there having both uptown AND downtown trains go on the same platform at Burnside? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MTA Dude Posted February 16, 2015 Share #511 Posted February 16, 2015 Due to a train with mechanical problems at Bedford Park Blvd, the following service changes are in effect: Uptown trains skip 167 Street and run express to Burnside Ave. Downtown trains run express to Burnside Ave. For service to/from Moshulu Pkway, Bedford Pk Blvd, KingsBridge Road and 167 Street on the downtown platform, take a uptown train and transfer to a downtown train. For service to/from 167 Street on the uptown platform take a Downtown train to 161 Street and transfer to a uptown . So there having both uptown AND downtown trains go on the same platform at Burnside? Wrong thread, dude! 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dj Hammers Posted February 18, 2015 Share #512 Posted February 18, 2015 Interesting. Anyone have more details on why and if the trains will run back to Brooklyn in service? 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
itmaybeokay Posted February 18, 2015 Share #513 Posted February 18, 2015 Interesting. Anyone have more details on why and if the trains will run back to Brooklyn in service? I'm assuming this must be because of work on the switch north of old Myrtle Ave station, but I can't say for sure. http://www.nycsubway.org/perl/caption.pl?/img/trackmap/detail-jaydklb.png 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RollOver Posted February 18, 2015 Share #514 Posted February 18, 2015 Interesting. Anyone have more details on why and if the trains will run back to Brooklyn in service? Boo! Are they kidding me? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MysteriousBtrain Posted February 18, 2015 Share #515 Posted February 18, 2015 (edited) Interesting. Anyone have more details on why and if the trains will run back to Brooklyn in service? It would be better to just turn this into extra trains that short turn at 57 Street (and maybe Brighton Beach). Edited February 18, 2015 by MysteriousBtrain 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Union Tpke Posted February 18, 2015 Share #516 Posted February 18, 2015 Interesting. Anyone have more details on why and if the trains will run back to Brooklyn in service? Re: Some northbound trains will run on the Broadway Line during AM rush Posted by j trainloco on Wed Feb 18 17:08:51 2015, in response to Some northbound trains will run on the Broadway Line during AM rush, posted by gOld_12Th on Wed Feb 18 12:56:47 2015. Looks like the 0730 and 0754 out of Brighton are the trains that will become Broadway runs. Scheduled to depart DeKalb at 0755 and 0819 respectively. They're roundtrips too. In the PM, instead of sending trains to/from Broadway, there is one interval ABD. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eric B Posted February 19, 2015 Share #517 Posted February 19, 2015 It would be better to just turn this into extra trains that short turn at 57 Street (and maybe Brighton Beach). They should just make them . That would make them easier to distinguish right away. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CenSin Posted February 19, 2015 Share #518 Posted February 19, 2015 They should just make them . That would make them easier to distinguish right away.That's pretty much what they are anyway. Nearly all of the essence of the is absent from the rerouted line. It touches neither the Central Park West nor Grand Concourse lines. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Union Tpke Posted February 20, 2015 Share #519 Posted February 20, 2015 They should just make them . That would make them easier to distinguish right away. oh no but people would be confused between Brighton Local/Express 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RollOver Posted February 27, 2015 Share #520 Posted February 27, 2015 (edited) Wow, not only is the section south of Brooklyn Bridge and the Manhattan-Brooklyn tube closed, but the Dyre Av branch is also closed as well for this whole weekend. Plus, the will be running every 20 minutes between E 180 St and Grand Central. Wtf is the point of running it at all then? Edited February 27, 2015 by RollOver 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S78 via Hylan Posted February 28, 2015 Share #521 Posted February 28, 2015 Better to have at least one express on the Lex than to overcrowd the and locals. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mysterious2train Posted February 28, 2015 Share #522 Posted February 28, 2015 (edited) Whenever this particular GO happens the and get overcrowded anyway. I wouldn't say the is much help; take 86 St for example, if you're going downtown why bother taking the unless it's about to arrive when the and are running a lot more frequently? Is it feasible to relay trains using the switch on the express tracks between Fulton St and Brooklyn Bridge? It really seems pointless to only run trains to 42 St, and only every 20 mins. Edited February 28, 2015 by Mysterious2train 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MTA Dude Posted February 28, 2015 Share #523 Posted February 28, 2015 They had to choose this particular day to turn at Jackson Heights. Oh well, more transfers for more railfanning! 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alekr Posted February 28, 2015 Share #524 Posted February 28, 2015 They had to choose this particular day to turn at Jackson Heights. Oh well, more transfers for more railfanning! Also the LIRR is giving free rides between Woodside and Penn. I wish that they could done it at Flushing Main St but it might cause overcrowding and people taking advantage too much. At Woodside there are trains arriving every 5-7 minutes departing to Penn to reduce congestion. Whenever this particular GO happens the and get overcrowded anyway. I wouldn't say the is much help; take 86 St for example, if you're going downtown why bother taking the unless it's about to arrive when the and are running a lot more frequently? Is it feasible to relay trains using the switch on the express tracks between Fulton St and Brooklyn Bridge? It really seems pointless to only run trains to 42 St, and only every 20 mins. There might be work being performed south of Brooklyn Bridge plus it might be congestion of switches. Wow, not only is the section south of Brooklyn Bridge and the Manhattan-Brooklyn tube closed, but the Dyre Av branch is also closed as well for this whole weekend. Plus, the will be running every 20 minutes between E 180 St and Grand Central. Wtf is the point of running it at all then? It might be due to make-up from the previous weeks since it was freezing temperatures. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alekr Posted February 28, 2015 Share #525 Posted February 28, 2015 trains and free shuttle bus service provide alternate service Weekends, 2:15 AM Sat to 4:30 AM Mon, Mar 14 - 16 • Mar 21 - 23 • Mar 28 - 30service operates between Main St and Hunters Point Av*. buses make all stops between Queensboro Plaza and Vernon Blvd- Jackson Av. 42 Street Shuttle service operates overnight.Note: service is extended to Ditmars Blvd, Sat 7 AM to 9 PM, Sun 9 AM to 7 PM I wonder why the shuttle buses are running from Queensboro to Vernon Blvd since the is running to Hunters Point Ave. Should it be a bus service only between Vernon and Hunters then riders take the to connect with other trains. Maybe it to reduce amount of transfers? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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