Far Rock Depot Posted April 11, 2012 Share #51 Posted April 11, 2012 I see the logic in sending 46's to SI. Add the factors of the similaarities between the 44s and 46s makes the transition easier on crews and maintenance. And when it comes to cost, thats a no brainer. Especially since most cars wouldve probably already gone thru some form of SMS and all that will be needed is cab signaling and anything else needed to meet Class 1A FRA specs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MTARegional Bus Posted May 19, 2012 Share #52 Posted May 19, 2012 Update I saw some R46's in flatbed trailers in Washington heights in broadway today, making a turn to the W179th street to the GWB, Looks like there taking R46's to Staten Island Via New Jersey Turnpike. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grand Concourse Posted May 19, 2012 Share #53 Posted May 19, 2012 Did you get any numbers? I'm still thinking the AA pairs are probably going to go there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MTARegional Bus Posted May 19, 2012 Share #54 Posted May 19, 2012 Did you get any numbers? I'm still thinking the AA pairs are probably going to go there. I can't remember for sure but it was 6000 series,again am not sure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Far Rock Depot Posted May 20, 2012 Share #55 Posted May 20, 2012 This is gonna be interesting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R32 3838 Posted May 20, 2012 Share #56 Posted May 20, 2012 Update I saw some R46's in flatbed trailers in Washington heights in broadway today, making a turn to the W179th street to the GWB, Looks like there taking R46's to Staten Island Via New Jersey Turnpike. hummmm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MTARegional Bus Posted May 21, 2012 Share #57 Posted May 21, 2012 hummmm I wish I had a Camera with me at the time, it ok if you don't believe me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grand Concourse Posted May 21, 2012 Share #58 Posted May 21, 2012 Do you remember if it was in the 6200 number range? That's the range for the AA pairs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MTARegional Bus Posted May 21, 2012 Share #59 Posted May 21, 2012 I believe so yes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VWM Posted May 22, 2012 Share #60 Posted May 22, 2012 take the 68s off the and make it look nice for a change, definitely Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RailBus63 Posted June 10, 2012 Share #61 Posted June 10, 2012 Update I saw some R46's in flatbed trailers in Washington heights in broadway today, making a turn to the W179th street to the GWB, Looks like there taking R46's to Staten Island Via New Jersey Turnpike. Are you sure those were R46's and not the R44's they've removed recently from 207th? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MTARegional Bus Posted July 5, 2012 Share #62 Posted July 5, 2012 Are you sure those were R46's and not the R44's they've removed recently from 207th? They were R44s may bad lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarkD329 Posted July 6, 2012 Share #63 Posted July 6, 2012 I am with the "Send R68s to SIR" group. These are single-unit cars and that nature makes for more flexibility in matching train consists with ridership. For example, you can get by with a 3-car daytime trains on weekends, or run two-cars late night, It seems that outside of rush hour, four-car trains are a bit much for the ridership. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roadcruiser1 Posted July 6, 2012 Share #64 Posted July 6, 2012 Yeah, but then those R46's would end up on the because the R68's have been transferred to the SIR which won't go well for the riders since R46's are as slow as hell. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Far Rock Depot Posted July 6, 2012 Share #65 Posted July 6, 2012 I would also agree with using 68s. They are younger and can allow the MTA to hold off ordering more NTTs for SIR a few more years compared to retrofitted 46s Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grand Concourse Posted July 6, 2012 Share #66 Posted July 6, 2012 Yeah, but then those R46's would end up on the because the R68's have been transferred to the SIR which won't go well for the riders since R46's are as slow as hell. Who said anything about R68s from the ? If anything they could start with CIY starting with the Franklin S cars. (As I said here or another thread, the AA R46 pairs could be used for the S till hopefully those platforms are extended to hold 300' trains). I would assume that the R68s would be taken from the and to make up for the loss of 7 trains (8th going to the S), they can give the some R46s. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Far Rock Depot Posted July 6, 2012 Share #67 Posted July 6, 2012 isnt the B R68A's? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grand Concourse Posted July 6, 2012 Share #68 Posted July 6, 2012 Some R68s along with the . Basically, I would take the R68s from the yard and put only the R68As on the . otoh, I guess maybe they could put some R46s on the or . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trainfan22 Posted July 7, 2012 Share #69 Posted July 7, 2012 Yeah, but then those R46's would end up on the because the R68's have been transferred to the SIR which won't go well for the riders since R46's are as slow as hell. The acceleration between the 46 and 68 isn't that big of a deal, you're acting like the 68's are much faster. There has been plenty of times where a 46 and a 68 left 36th Street N/B at the same time and the 46 was moving faster than the 68 was. line riders wouldn't care if the 46s went on the line. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grand Concourse Posted July 7, 2012 Share #70 Posted July 7, 2012 I don't think the riders will care, but I don't see the point in making Concourse yard deal with another train type. That's why if R68s were to go to SI, then it should be from CIY. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
St Louis Car 09 Posted July 7, 2012 Share #71 Posted July 7, 2012 I believe the R68 will be somewhat of a issue due to weight and to retrofit them to FRA standards will only make them heavier.I wonder if they order a NTT for the SIRT will it cause power issues like out in the rockaways? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brighton Express Posted July 12, 2012 Share #72 Posted July 12, 2012 Come to think of it, it will sure be interesting the day that the SIR gets R160s. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VWM Posted July 12, 2012 Share #73 Posted July 12, 2012 Come to think of it, it will sure be interesting the day that the SIR gets R160s. This is an SIR Express Train to Tottenville. The next stop is Arthur Kill Road. Transfer to the S74 and S84 buses. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GojiMet86 Posted July 12, 2012 Share #74 Posted July 12, 2012 This is an SIR Express Train to Tottenville. The next stop is Arthur Kill Road. Transfer to the S74 and S84 buses. If it's announced in a subway fashion, it would be something more like this: This is a Tottenville-bound SIR express train. The next stop is Arthur Kill Road. Stand clear of the closing doors, please. This is Arthur Kill Road. Connection is available to the S74 and S84. This is a Tottenville-bound SIR express train. The next stop and last stop is Tottenville. Stand clear of the closing doors, please. This is Tottenville. Connection is available to the S74 and S84. This is the last stop on this train. Everybody please leave the train, and thank you for riding with MTA New York City Transit. If it were like the LIRR announcements, it would be more like this: This station is Arthur Kill Road. This is the train to St. George Terminal. The next stop is Richmond Valley. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grand Concourse Posted July 12, 2012 Share #75 Posted July 12, 2012 If SIRT were to get new trains, I dunno if 60' car trains would be ideal since it would mean more cars to maintain and leave out. Late at night I would think they'd need a 3 car train vs the 2 they have now. I think if the subways are no longer going to run 75' car trains (after the last R68s are retired), then SIR may need a custom fleet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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