R32 3838 Posted November 25, 2012 Share #1126 Posted November 25, 2012 and thats why the R46's are beat down, what they should do is just ether send the R32's somwhere else or leave them the way they are, the swap is a waste of money and its stupid, it makes no sense but lets leave this type of topic in the R32 swap thread Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ttcsubwayfan Posted November 25, 2012 Share #1127 Posted November 25, 2012 and thats why the R46's are beat down, what they should do is just ether send the R32's somwhere else or leave them the way they are, the swap is a waste of money and its stupid, it makes no sense but lets leave this type of topic in the R32 swap thread I'm sure it's preferable sitting in an R32 with busted A/C. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lilbluefoxie Posted November 25, 2012 Share #1128 Posted November 25, 2012 whats the chances the MTA keeps the designation for the Rockaway shuttle after things are back to normal next year? I think I saw an R68 layed up in JYD today from the Van Wyck. One of the rollsigns was set as an . I am assuming the is still based from there till the line is back to 100%? was it in a set of two? then its one of the Franklin Shuttle trainsets Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grand Concourse Posted November 25, 2012 Share #1129 Posted November 25, 2012 Couldn't tell. I saw at least 4 cars. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fresh Pond Posted November 25, 2012 Share #1130 Posted November 25, 2012 whats the chances the MTA keeps the designation for the Rockaway shuttle after things are back to normal next year? Zero...although it never really "disappeared" in the first place. Its still called the internally, but to the public its called the Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eric B Posted November 25, 2012 Share #1131 Posted November 25, 2012 I'm wondering if this is in anticipation of service to Broad Channel resuming before through service comes back, so since this would be like a truncated version of the old midnight round robin, the specifically designates, round-robin service (which technically is more than a shuttle), while is the simple shuttle service. But then which part of the line will be fixed first. I was told that the south bridge was so destroyed, the Army won't release any pictures of it, and won't allow anyone to take pictures! (Notice, we've seen section of track totally stripped down to the bare skeleton with all the ground washed from underneath, but they never show the bridges! Has anyone anywhere snuck a picture like from their car on the Cross Bay, or anything?) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndrewJC Posted November 25, 2012 Share #1132 Posted November 25, 2012 In that case, I'll start getting as many riders as possible with the R32s even though the is the local and completely underground. I also would love to get as many variety with those cars along the express and the Rockaways. Too bad I didn't get any variety out in the Rockaways since most or all of them went to Lefferts Boulevard. From what I saw, there was no particular preference of one branch over another for the R32s. I saw plenty of them on all three branches. Scheduled Maintenance Service. Scheduled Maintenance System, to be precise. whats the chances the MTA keeps the designation for the Rockaway shuttle after things are back to normal next year? The H runs between Far Rockaway and Beach 90th. The usual Rockaway Park shuttle runs between Rockaway Park and Broad Channel. They serve entirely different functions and have only one station in common. I suspect that the current service is called the H specifically to highlight that it isn't like the usual shuttle. I'm wondering if this is in anticipation of service to Broad Channel resuming before through service comes back, so since this would be like a truncated version of the old midnight round robin, the specifically designates, round-robin service (which technically is more than a shuttle), while is the simple shuttle service. In the 80's and early 90's, all shuttles to the Rockaways were called H (or, earlier, HH). At night, it was the round-robin shuttle (since the A went only to Lefferts), and during rush hours and later most of the day on weekdays, the C (or CC) served Rock Park so there was no need for a shuttle of any sort, but on weekends, the C didn't run into Brooklyn and there was a straightforward shuttle to Rock Park, also called H (or HH). But then which part of the line will be fixed first. I was told that the south bridge was so destroyed, the Army won't release any pictures of it, and won't allow anyone to take pictures! (Notice, we've seen section of track totally stripped down to the bare skeleton with all the ground washed from underneath, but they never show the bridges! Has anyone anywhere snuck a picture like from their car on the Cross Bay, or anything?) I highly doubt that. If you want a picture of the South Channel Bridge, take one from the Cross Bay Bridge sidewalk - nobody's going to stop you. There probably isn't much to see. The damage was probably far worse on the "flats," where the tracks are at a lower elevation than on the bridge. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lilbluefoxie Posted November 25, 2012 Share #1133 Posted November 25, 2012 The H runs between Far Rockaway and Beach 90th. The usual Rockaway Park shuttle runs between Rockaway Park and Broad Channel. They serve entirely different functions and have only one station in common. I suspect that the current service is called the H specifically to highlight that it isn't like the usual shuttle. They called it the because the R32's side sign has a reading only for Rockaway Shuttle, the on roll says Franklin Ave Shuttle. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndrewJC Posted November 26, 2012 Share #1134 Posted November 26, 2012 They called it the because the R32's side sign has a reading only for Rockaway Shuttle, the on roll says Franklin Ave Shuttle. There is a "Shuttle" reading that could have been used. However, as I said, it's a completely different service from the Rock Park shuttle, serving a completely different function. Why shouldn't it have a completely different name? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TwoTimer Posted November 26, 2012 Share #1135 Posted November 26, 2012 I was doubt either bridge was completely knocked down during the storm, tracked pushed off pilings going into the bay, maybe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
itmaybeokay Posted November 26, 2012 Share #1136 Posted November 26, 2012 I think I saw an R68 layed up in JYD today from the Van Wyck. One of the rollsigns was set as an . I am assuming the is still based from there till the line is back to 100%? was it in a set of two? then its one of the Franklin Shuttle trainsets Couldn't tell. I saw at least 4 cars. The is back to 4 cars all times, but for some reason still has at least one 46 set on it. Perhaps that's why that 68 is layed up? Not sure that makes sense, not sure why it's still running 46's either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
itmaybeokay Posted November 26, 2012 Share #1137 Posted November 26, 2012 Oh and here's something interesting. A Marine salvage company (yes, like boats and whatnot) was called in to help pump out the Montague tube, and put up some pictures. The MTA has yet to release any photos of that tube so, if you're curious, click through. http://defiantmarine.net/gallery/superstorm-sandy-nyc-subway/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
6 Lexington Ave Posted November 26, 2012 Share #1138 Posted November 26, 2012 This brochure by the mta best captures the title of this thread. http://www.mta.info/mta/news/books/pdf/121121_Sandy_briefing.pdf Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mfs NJT459 Posted November 26, 2012 Share #1139 Posted November 26, 2012 This brochure by the mta best captures the title of this thread. http://www.mta.info/...dy_briefing.pdf Let's not forget the Aug. 8, 2007 storm when it comes to what could happen in the future http://www.mta.info/mta/pdf/storm_report_2007.pdf Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amtrak7 Posted November 26, 2012 Share #1140 Posted November 26, 2012 Note two things: the Broad St repairs are in the testing phase, and the will extend to Whitehall next. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
narig Posted November 27, 2012 Share #1141 Posted November 27, 2012 Compared to NJT and from a distance it looks like NYCTA did an outstanding job of preparing and reacting to the storm. Rgds IGN Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
6 Lexington Ave Posted November 27, 2012 Share #1142 Posted November 27, 2012 http://www.ny1.com/content/top_stories/172890/subway-still-weeks-away-from-fully-restored-service Source: NY1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shortline Bus Posted November 27, 2012 Share #1143 Posted November 27, 2012 "Two of the most overcrowded lines in the subway system have been squeezing in even more riders, thanks to Hurricane Sandy. Straphangers are packing in to the 4 and 5 trains like sardines since the R train stopped running between Manhattan and Brooklyn, transit officials said yesterday. The extreme conditions — which together carry about 1.07 million passengers a day — have transit officials scrambling to repair the R line’s Montague Street tunnel, which has been closed since it was damaged in the storm. Because of the closure, R trains cannot run under the East River, forcing many of its riders onto the 4 and 5 trains, which run a similar route in Downtown Brooklyn and Lower Manhattan. The 4 and the 5 are getting hammered,” Thomas Prendergast, president of New York City Transit, said at the agency’s transit committee meeting. “Everybody who comes across from the [staten Island] ferry who normally takes the R is walking up to the 4 and 5 at Bowling Green.” In Brooklyn, R train riders are switching at Atlantic Avenue to the 4 or 5 to cross the East River, Prendergast added. The R isn’t running between Jay Street-MetroTech and 34th Street in Manhattan. Fixing the tunnel is the agency’s “highest priority,” Prendergast said, adding he hoped service will be back in seven to ten days. Transit workers are toiling run the clock to get it down, he said. The first step will be extending the R in Manhattan down to Rector, he said." http://www.nypost.com/p/news/local/make_squish_nyc_LsHNVCX3uxLiV7Zj86MJUN Meanwhile NY1 says the Manhattan-Queens section will be extended to Rector St by latest the end of week (11/30/12) Plus in mid. Dec. "full" Forest Hills-Bay Ridge via Manhattan service (minus Whitehall/South Ferry) to restored. http://www.ny1.com/content/top_stories/172890/subway-still-weeks-away-from-fully-restored-service Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shortline Bus Posted November 27, 2012 Share #1144 Posted November 27, 2012 Keep in mind the Whitehall and South Ferry wont reopen until sometime in 2013 (maybe around as late as Feb. or March) from my impression of these media reports. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Threxx Posted November 27, 2012 Share #1145 Posted November 27, 2012 Well, it's about time. They should have been running service to Canal to avoid the PITA relay at 34th. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TwoTimer Posted November 27, 2012 Share #1146 Posted November 27, 2012 Again, the trackage to turn trains there may have not been available at all, especially with the yards shut down until recently. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Threxx Posted November 27, 2012 Share #1147 Posted November 27, 2012 Again, the trackage to turn trains there may have not been available at all, especially with the yards shut down until recently. Well there were better options than turning at 34th Street and delaying and service. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shortline Bus Posted November 27, 2012 Share #1148 Posted November 27, 2012 Well there were better options than turning at 34th Street and delaying and service. I think (forgot poster who suggested it) this idea might be better to do until full service was restored. 1)Run the as replacement for between Lex-60th and Forest Hills as QB/Broadway Local via bridge daily 6am-Midnight. Overnights runs between 57th/7th and Stillwell. 2)Run between Astoria and Stillwell alone (with 5-6 minute headways all day weekdays from 7am-9pm)With some trains start/end at 86th St Gravesend. 3)Run the shuttle 24/7 between Jay St and Bay Ridge-95th Street. That way you avoid the conga line at 34th that currently happening. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kamen Rider Posted November 27, 2012 Share #1149 Posted November 27, 2012 and then have to hear the astoria line riders cry like babies who just had thier candy stolen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shortline Bus Posted November 27, 2012 Share #1150 Posted November 27, 2012 and then have to hear the astoria line riders cry like babies who just had thier candy stolen. Let em cry (Astoria line riders) In 2001, in post 9/11 emgerency service plan, they also only had one line the serve them for a short while. Why not again in Post Sandy IMO for a few weeks? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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