MysteriousBtrain Posted December 30, 2014 Share #4851 Posted December 30, 2014 7591-7640 is staying on the When will they send 7661-7665 to the ? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R62AR33 Posted December 30, 2014 Share #4852 Posted December 30, 2014 (edited) I think that they should at least borrow one or two sets from the and upgrade them and put them on the so the doesn't have to suffer. Dude its been mentioned SEVERAL Times that Kawasaki are doing the conversions , the , and run Bombardier R142s with a very small fleet of R142As on the . The is being touched because it had a Full fleet of R142A's and the same ammount of R142A's as corona did R62A's so it was easier to swap with the and . Why is the suffering ? all that's happening is that they are getting the same R62A's that they had from 1988 up till 2003. Westchester are getting the better end of the deal here because Corona TOOK care of the R62A's while the R142A's weren't maintained as well as they should have been. Edited December 30, 2014 by R62AR33 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RollOver Posted December 30, 2014 Share #4853 Posted December 30, 2014 (edited) I think that they should at least borrow one or two sets from the and upgrade them and put them on the so the doesn't have to suffer. What do you mean by "suffering"? There's still going to be a few 142As left on the and the rest of its fleet being 62As. Both the and have enough cars already. There's no need to complicate things further. Simple as that. Edited December 30, 2014 by RollOver 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YankeesPwnMets Posted December 30, 2014 Share #4854 Posted December 30, 2014 (edited) I'm pretty sure 7661-7665 are already on the As for the R142As, Westchester abused them. The MTA should slap Westchester for making the R142A's ten years older than they really are. I ride the and every day and I have never seen an R142A from Jerome look as bad as one from Westchester. At least by the time the R62A's start falling apart they'll be headed into retirement.... Edited December 30, 2014 by YankeesPwnMets 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Javier Posted December 30, 2014 Share #4855 Posted December 30, 2014 How many 10 car sets is that? Ratio of R62's to R142's at City Hall: 3:1 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T J Trainman Posted December 30, 2014 Share #4856 Posted December 30, 2014 7661-7665 aré no the 6. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Javier Posted December 30, 2014 Share #4857 Posted December 30, 2014 What are you talking about? On the there are mixed sets of R142's and R142A's. And what I mean by suffer is that it's not fair that the is almost getting downgraded back to R62's just so that the can get upgraded to R188's. Ether the MTA does a new contract for Kawasaki to MAKE R188's, not upgraded existing R142's, or just wait until 34 Street is completed or the CBTC system is ready to go. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MysteriousBtrain Posted December 30, 2014 Share #4858 Posted December 30, 2014 What are you talking about? On the there are mixed sets of R142's and R142A's. And what I mean by suffer is that it's not fair that the is almost getting downgraded back to R62's just so that the can get upgraded to R188's. Ether the MTA does a new contract for Kawasaki to MAKE R188's, not upgraded existing R142's, or just wait until 34 Street is completed or the CBTC system is ready to go. Even if the extension was completed, it would take years for the R188 contract to finish before CBTC can start. And why add more unnecessary R188s when we have the cars needed for now? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ttcsubwayfan Posted December 30, 2014 Share #4859 Posted December 30, 2014 What are you talking about? On the there are mixed sets of R142's and R142A's. And what I mean by suffer is that it's not fair that the is almost getting downgraded back to R62's just so that the can get upgraded to R188's. Ether the MTA does a new contract for Kawasaki to MAKE R188's, not upgraded existing R142's, or just wait until 34 Street is completed or the CBTC system is ready to go. Seriously? You want to have this tired debate again? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MTA Dude Posted December 30, 2014 Share #4860 Posted December 30, 2014 (edited) What are you talking about? On the there are mixed sets of R142's and R142A's. And what I mean by suffer is that it's not fair that the is almost getting downgraded back to R62's just so that the can get upgraded to R188's. Ether the MTA does a new contract for Kawasaki to MAKE R188's, not upgraded existing R142's, or just wait until 34 Street is completed or the CBTC system is ready to go. How is the suffering? If you downgrade the 's back into R32s, how do they suffer (assuming it was 6 years ago)? Service is service, R142As are not any better than the R62As. In fact, service will actually be BETTER once they get their R62As back. Since Westchester knows that they are getting rid of their R142As, they have been abusing them, and soon most will retire before the R62As. If Kawasaki MAKES R188s, the R62As will get trashed and it would be wasting precious money. the is short on budget and you want to waste their money? There will still be a few sets of R142As left on the so STOP COMPLAINING! Edited December 30, 2014 by MTA Dude 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T J Trainman Posted December 31, 2014 Share #4861 Posted December 31, 2014 Oops, disregard my post up yonder. 7661-7665 are on the 6. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Javier Posted December 31, 2014 Share #4862 Posted December 31, 2014 Your not understanding me, But just beccause I want to put this discussion away, I'll keep my mouth shut. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MysteriousBtrain Posted December 31, 2014 Share #4863 Posted December 31, 2014 Your not understanding me, But just beccause I want to put this discussion away, I'll keep my mouth shut.It's not that we (or more specifically I) don't understand, but if a subway car is not struggling to live like the remaining R42s, then there is no need to worry about what line gets what fleet. And even with the R42s, there is nothing we can do about them without the R179s arriving first. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fresh Pond Posted December 31, 2014 Share #4864 Posted December 31, 2014 What are you talking about? On the there are mixed sets of R142's and R142A's. And what I mean by suffer is that it's not fair that the is almost getting downgraded back to R62's just so that the can get upgraded to R188's. Ether the MTA does a new contract for Kawasaki to MAKE R188's, not upgraded existing R142's, or just wait until 34 Street is completed or the CBTC system is ready to go. Let's break this down one more time as simple as it can possibly can go...follow along if you can, it aint that hard... The R188 contract consists of: -Brand new cars (7811-7899) -Conversion of the R142A into R188s (7211-7365) -New C cars to add into the conversion sets to make 11 car trains (7900-7936?) Following along? Ok good, keep up now... As it was stated before, Bombardier didn't want to accept the R188 contract because of the small order, so it went to Kawasaki instead. Its cheaper to convert the R142As into R188s compared to building brand new cars from scratch. Other than the CBTC shit, the R188 is LITERALLY an upgraded R142A. Now here's where things get tricky... Since the trains already on the are only about halfway through their useful service life, they decided to take ALL the cars from the and move them over (they had to go somewhere) to the since the fleet is all R142As. Since Westchester (the ) has a larger fleet than Corona (the ), there will still be R142As (cars that WEREN'T converted to R188s) in Westchester, just a minority of the entire fleet. The R188 order wasn't made to retire any cars, it was just for fleet expansion and CBTC purposes. No other cars are being touched/moved/upgraded. The or have nothing to do with any of this ...now stop asking the same questions over and over 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Javier Posted December 31, 2014 Share #4865 Posted December 31, 2014 That's not what I Meant!! I'll just say O.K to get this argument to a end. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RollOver Posted December 31, 2014 Share #4866 Posted December 31, 2014 That's not what I Meant!! I'll just say O.K to get this argument to a end. It's like you don't even read/remember what you wrote... 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MTA Dude Posted December 31, 2014 Share #4867 Posted December 31, 2014 That's not what I Meant!! I'll just say O.K to get this argument to a end. You seriously sound like a whining baby. T_T 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ttcsubwayfan Posted December 31, 2014 Share #4868 Posted December 31, 2014 That's not what I Meant!! I'll just say O.K to get this argument to a end. There are only so many meanings of "Ether the MTA does a new contract for Kawasaki to MAKE R188's, not upgraded existing R142's". 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MTA Dude Posted December 31, 2014 Share #4869 Posted December 31, 2014 There are only so many meanings of "Ether the MTA does a new contract for Kawasaki to MAKE R188's, not upgraded existing R142's". I... don't really get what you mean. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Javier Posted December 31, 2014 Share #4870 Posted December 31, 2014 God you guys like to never let someone hear the end of things. I... don't really get what you mean. What do you mean? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lance Posted December 31, 2014 Share #4871 Posted December 31, 2014 Honestly everyone, drop it. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MysteriousBtrain Posted January 1, 2015 Share #4872 Posted January 1, 2015 Honestly everyone, drop it. Lance is right. Let Javier be Javier and just move on. There's nothing you can do about it. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Javier Posted January 1, 2015 Share #4873 Posted January 1, 2015 Lance is right. Let Javier be Javier and just move on. There's nothing you can do about it. Hey! 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
7 Flushing Line Posted January 6, 2015 Share #4874 Posted January 6, 2015 Have 7301-7310 entered service yet? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T J Trainman Posted January 6, 2015 Share #4875 Posted January 6, 2015 Yes, 7301-7310 have entered service. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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