Orion VII 4 Life Posted June 17, 2012 Share #401 Posted June 17, 2012 Back to topic as R160s on the R has nothing to do with the title of this thread. I can't understand why there are only 140 out of the 222 in service on the A. Only two sets of R32s could be used for work service while 220 out of the 222 can operate on the A. There are enough R32s to run on the A alongside the 176 R46. Why does East New York Yard even bother to give 20 cars of R42s to Pitkin Yard for the A?.... ._. This is just my opinion. They can't run every single R32 in service, they need spare cars on standby. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TwoTimer Posted June 17, 2012 Share #402 Posted June 17, 2012 There are things wrong with most consists, with R46 they must stay out there on the road if its not a safety issue because of the size of the consist (half the train is a lot and they don't have nearly the amount of standby cars), but with R32's they can just swap out a pair when they layup for the night (if they in fact layup in an actual yard). 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R32 3838 Posted June 18, 2012 Share #403 Posted June 18, 2012 The R46's run like shit on the , the R46's are unreliable and overused, thats why they have had problems, ever since the R32's popped up on the the has been much better, and the is better with the R46's, BTW ANOTHER R42 was sent BACK to ENY, that Leaves 1 Trainset 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheSubwayStation Posted June 18, 2012 Share #404 Posted June 18, 2012 The R46's run like shit on the , the R46's are unreliable and overused, thats why they have had problems Well, the R32s are doing better because they're just having SMS...Remember last year, when the R32s had a MDBF of 56,000 or something? ever since the R32's popped up on the the has been much better What in the world are you judging that based on? the is better with the R46's How will the line make the "unreliable" R46s run ANY BETTER??? It looks like somebody here just enjoys riding old rickety trains on the ... 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fan Railer Posted June 18, 2012 Share #405 Posted June 18, 2012 Much better that is.... for railfans LOL. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
St Louis Car 09 Posted June 18, 2012 Share #406 Posted June 18, 2012 The R46's run like shit on the , the R46's are unreliable and overused, thats why they have had problems, ever since the R32's popped up on the the has been much better, and the is better with the R46's, BTW ANOTHER R42 was sent BACK to ENY, that Leaves 1 Trainset Yep I seen that set yesterday at ENY still signed up as a 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Threxx Posted June 18, 2012 Share #407 Posted June 18, 2012 Personally, I think things should remain the way they are year round, not from a foamers perspective, but from the point that the gets full length trains. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fan Railer Posted June 18, 2012 Share #408 Posted June 18, 2012 Personally, I think things should remain the way they are year round, not from a foamers perspective, but from the point that the gets full length trains. Exactly. This setup works, so why not keep it the way it is? The only problem I see is R32's running during storm hours, but then all you would have to do anticipate bad weather and do a quick temporary assignment swap for several days as the storm blows over, then swap back.... But of course the MTA would be too lazy to ever do that. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheSubwayStation Posted June 18, 2012 Share #409 Posted June 18, 2012 The thing is, the multitude of riders demand the more comfortable R46s IMO. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R32 3838 Posted June 18, 2012 Share #410 Posted June 18, 2012 @ the subway station, the R32s are 10 time more reliable than the R46s, even before the SMS they ran better than the R46s, the R46s are overused subway cars, the ones at jamaica perform better than the ones on the A, before the R32s made its return to the A the A always had equipment problems, this is why I think they should have fixed that problem and put the R160s on the A, the R46s are better for the C due to the fact they don't run as much, the R46s don't do well on the A, they run like shit, last year in the summertime they ran 6-8 R32s during the overnight hours, this year I counted 3-4 during the overnight, it is what it is, so instead of being mr know it all, listen to the facts on why I just said what I said 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheSubwayStation Posted June 18, 2012 Share #411 Posted June 18, 2012 @ the subway station, the R32s are 10 time more reliable than the R46s, even before the SMS they ran better than the R46s, the R46s are overused subway cars, the ones at jamaica perform better than the ones on the A, before the R32s made its return to the A the A always had equipment problems, this is why I think they should have fixed that problem and put the R160s on the A, the R46s are better for the C due to the fact they don't run as much, the R46s don't do well on the A, they run like shit, last year in the summertime they ran 6-8 R32s during the overnight hours, this year I counted 3-4 during the overnight, it is what it is, so instead of being mr know it all, listen to the facts on why I just said what I said Yeah, right. Do you want to see the facts?http://i45.tinypic.com/k48roj.jpg Yes, the R32s are currently doing slightly better than the R46s. It shows how well built the R32s were, considering that they're doing this well for their age. But there's nothing to suggest that the R46s are doing particularly badly. Your statement is supported by no evidence, which is what makes me think that you just like the R32s better. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJ MC Posted June 18, 2012 Share #412 Posted June 18, 2012 I rode the R32s today (yes I'm in New York City). I was in car 3658. The cars rode nicely although I'd expect the R46s to ride equally the same. Well I'll find out when I decide to ride the A again. Oh and I did saw an R42 set on the A while on the R32s. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R32 3838 Posted June 18, 2012 Share #413 Posted June 18, 2012 (edited) Yeah, right. Do you want to see the facts? http://i45.tinypic.com/k48roj.jpg Yes, the R32s are currently doing slightly better than the R46s. It shows how well built the R32s were, considering that they're doing this well for their age. But there's nothing to suggest that the R46s are doing particularly badly. Your statement is supported by no evidence, which is what makes me think that you just like the R32s better. Do you ride the train on a daily basis, I know because when I used to ride the train during the day, service be jacked Up due TO EQUIPMENT PROBLEMS!!! , when they send 's to lefferts and Far Rock, thats because of a stalled train, back then the was 100% R46's, the R46's are overused trains, I ride the R46's on the and they run and should like shit, I ride the R46's on the (F)/® lines they run Much better, and Im always gonna say this the needs R160's , that power issue can be fixed, don't get me wrong sometimes the R32's have issues too on the but not as much as the R46's,if the had the R160's with R32's or R46's the wouldn't be a problem, ever since the R46's became a household on the they drop like flies, have dead motors and brake problems, so I'm telling you how i see this with my own two eyes and trust me plenty of people who work the line can agree, the R46's aren't doing well as everyone thought it would, it has nothing to do with me liking the R32's, People need to see the facts, The R32's have Always been more reliable than the R46's, the R46's have been though 2 Major SMS's already in 2003-04, and late 2008-2010, the R32's have had one Major SMS in 2001-04 (floor replacement, Truck work , HVAC work and etc.) SMS,2006-7 (truck work Phase I's only) and 2011-12 (truck and HVAC work as well as door work) Edited June 18, 2012 by R32 3838 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheSubwayStation Posted June 18, 2012 Share #414 Posted June 18, 2012 It makes absolutely no sense that the line, which is arguably busier and more demanding than the line, would make the R46s run better. Why do you say that the R46s are overused on the line when the runs less frequently than the ? Yes, I know that the R46 has a history of problems and the R32s are very solidly built trains, but your "facts" contradict the MDBF numbers over the past year. By the way, I can't remember the last time a was sent to Lefferts or Far Rockaway; I'm not going to believe you that it happens often unless someone else can provide more information. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IRT Bronx Express Posted June 19, 2012 Share #415 Posted June 19, 2012 I always thought that the R160s are more overused, which might have lead to mileage problems. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Far Rock Depot Posted June 19, 2012 Share #416 Posted June 19, 2012 I've rode the A for over 20 years. Charlies being sent to Lefferts or the Rock due to equipment problems have always happened with every fleet they've ran. It's also happened due to police activity, passenger injury, etc.... Those situations don't state how often a type of car brakes down...... MDBF stats do. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Lance Posted June 19, 2012 Share #417 Posted June 19, 2012 Personally, I think things should remain the way they are year round, not from a foamers perspective, but from the point that the gets full length trains. The only problem prohibiting this current setup for the and is the fact that this swap eats into the spare factor for every B Division yard except Coney Island and Concourse. It'd be fine if Pitkin had enough cars for both the and . It doesn't though, so when the uses the line's R46s, the has to pull some R46s out of Jamaica and, until recently, a few R42s out of East New York. When the swap isn't in place, this problem doesn't come up. It is nice that the uses full length trains and it would be nice if it was like that year round, but there just aren't enough cars for this right now. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Threxx Posted June 19, 2012 Share #418 Posted June 19, 2012 The only problem prohibiting this current setup for the and is the fact that this swap eats into the spare factor for every B Division yard except Coney Island and Concourse. It'd be fine if Pitkin had enough cars for both the and . It doesn't though, so when the uses the line's R46s, the has to pull some R46s out of Jamaica and, until recently, a few R42s out of East New York. When the swap isn't in place, this problem doesn't come up. It is nice that the uses full length trains and it would be nice if it was like that year round, but there just aren't enough cars for this right now. ENY is handling it, and so is Jamaica. It is possible. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Art Vandelay Posted June 20, 2012 Share #419 Posted June 20, 2012 R32s and R46s while at the bottom of the pile MDBF wise, are still very reliable cars. It is just a reflection of the high standards NYCT has. Most other systems wouldn't even dream of such reliable cars. Especially WMATA. Heh. p.s. R42s are still on the A. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TwoTimer Posted June 20, 2012 Share #420 Posted June 20, 2012 Just 1 train now, and it goes back and forth from Far Rock. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fan Railer Posted June 20, 2012 Share #421 Posted June 20, 2012 Just 1 train now, and it goes back and forth from Far Rock. Hope that stays on long enough for me to fan it lol. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daniel The Cool Posted June 20, 2012 Share #422 Posted June 20, 2012 Just 1 train now, and it goes back and forth from Far Rock. actually there's 2 sets again. Saw them both at 59th Street. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R32 3838 Posted June 20, 2012 Share #423 Posted June 20, 2012 (edited) actually there's 2 sets again. Saw them both at 59th Street. they swapped that set, they sent a bad set back to ENY and ENY sent another R42 set back to 207th, so yes theres 2 sets again Edited June 20, 2012 by R32 3838 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R42Ztrain4795 Posted June 20, 2012 Share #424 Posted June 20, 2012 i was lucky enough to ride one R42 and saw all three sets today. ill upload the pics 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R42Ztrain4795 Posted June 21, 2012 Share #425 Posted June 21, 2012 file:///D:/Michael/My%20Pictures/NYC%20MTA%20Subway/Copy%20of%20NYC%20MTA%20Subway%20013.jpg i even met another railfan taking pics of it. Car 4807 file:///D:/Michael/My%20Pictures/NYC%20MTA%20Subway/Copy%20of%20NYC%20MTA%20Subway%20012.jpg i also got this odd one lol. Car 4820 (this is my first time posting pics srry i dont really know how to do it) 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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