Orion VII 4 Life Posted June 22, 2012 Share #426 Posted June 22, 2012 i was lucky enough to ride one R42 and saw all three sets today. ill upload the pics There's 3 sets back on the ? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MainStreetBound7 Posted June 22, 2012 Share #427 Posted June 22, 2012 Someones foaming pretty hard.... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Novabus 5000 Posted June 23, 2012 Share #428 Posted June 23, 2012 In the event that a set of R32s has to go into service on the C in an emergency situation, would the train be 10 cars to match the R46s or 8 cars like they normally are? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJ MC Posted June 23, 2012 Share #429 Posted June 23, 2012 I got on an R42 yesterday, which went out of service at 207th Street. I saw the other R42 set while on a train of R32s heading to Lefferts Blvd. It was sad to see them in the condition they were in. 12 years ago they didn't look like crap as they looked shiney and sleek. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snowblock Posted June 23, 2012 Share #430 Posted June 23, 2012 If its an emergency, do you really think they're gonna have the time to make a cut? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orion VII 4 Life Posted June 23, 2012 Share #431 Posted June 23, 2012 Well right now all the R32s are on the in 10 car trains, so I doubt they'd get rid of 2 cars especially if there was an emergency and the train had to be on the road ASAP. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orion VII 4 Life Posted June 23, 2012 Share #432 Posted June 23, 2012 Someones foaming pretty hard.... Please, I have better things to foam over... 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VWM Posted June 23, 2012 Share #433 Posted June 23, 2012 file:///D:/Michael/My%20Pictures/NYC%20MTA%20Subway/Copy%20of%20NYC%20MTA%20Subway%20013.jpg i even met another railfan taking pics of it. Car 4807 file:///D:/Michael/My%20Pictures/NYC%20MTA%20Subway/Copy%20of%20NYC%20MTA%20Subway%20012.jpg i also got this odd one lol. Car 4820 (this is my first time posting pics srry i dont really know how to do it) Is this your first time on the internet? Get Photobucket. Post the IMG tag next to your picture. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Queens Surface Posted June 23, 2012 Share #434 Posted June 23, 2012 If it's an emergency they probably will leave it 10 cars since cutting 2 cars off takes time. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GojiMet86 Posted June 23, 2012 Share #435 Posted June 23, 2012 Is this your first time on the internet? Get Photobucket. Post the IMG tag next to your picture. He has just three posts. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R32 3838 Posted June 23, 2012 Share #436 Posted June 23, 2012 there are 2 R42's on the , better grab em, i heard ENY wants em back but ill wait and see 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewFlyer 230 Posted June 23, 2012 Share #437 Posted June 23, 2012 Besides the R160's coming in why were most the R32's retired as well with all the R40's. The MTA knew for years that those R44's were going to have problems. A lot of those R32 were good when I rode them. This is basically the same problem like the L Train and the R143's. They thought service was going to remain the same and then they need more. I don't think the R160's were suppose to go to the L. The MTA better order enough R179's so that they can have spares and problems like this won't be as bad as it is now. Those R42's were done in 2009-2010 and they weren't expected to perform any longer but when those R44's started having problems they had no choice. By the way are there any more R44's left at all excluding SIR. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fan Railer Posted June 23, 2012 Share #438 Posted June 23, 2012 Besides the R160's coming in why were most the R32's retired as well with all the R40's. The MTA knew for years that those R44's were going to have problems. A lot of those R32 were good when I rode them. This is basically the same problem like the L Train and the R143's. They thought service was going to remain the same and then they need more. I don't think the R160's were suppose to go to the L. The MTA better order enough R179's so that they can have spares and problems like this won't be as bad as it is now. Those R42's were done in 2009-2010 and they weren't expected to perform any longer but when those R44's started having problems they had no choice. By the way are there any more R44's left at all excluding SIR. AFAIK, there are still a couple sitting dead in storage awaiting scrap. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jdog14 Posted June 23, 2012 Share #439 Posted June 23, 2012 By the way are there any more R44's left at all excluding SIR. There are a few sets sitting in Coney Island Yard. If you ride the N to Coney Island they will be on your left hand side. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Lance Posted June 23, 2012 Share #440 Posted June 23, 2012 Besides the R160's coming in why were most the R32's retired as well with all the R40's. The MTA knew for years that those R44's were going to have problems. A lot of those R32 were good when I rode them. This is basically the same problem like the L Train and the R143's. They thought service was going to remain the same and then they need more. I don't think the R160's were suppose to go to the L. The MTA better order enough R179's so that they can have spares and problems like this won't be as bad as it is now. Those R42's were done in 2009-2010 and they weren't expected to perform any longer but when those R44's started having problems they had no choice. By the way are there any more R44's left at all excluding SIR. 1) All of the SMEE fleet below the R44s were to be retired and replaced by the R160s because the R32s through R42s were getting up there in age and their MDBFs were not that good to keep them around. And, rather than make several small car class orders to replace each class individually, it was determined to be a better idea to replace them all in bulk. 2) The R44 structuaral problems were pretty much a sudden event, making itself known in early 2010. By that point, the entirety of the R38s and the R40s (both slant and modified) were both retired and a huge chunk of the R32s and R42s were also gone. 3) The original plan for the line was that the R143s would be only cars on that line. When it was determined that the R143 cars wouldn't be enough to meet ridership demands, R160s were also put onto the Canarsie line. And, unless the decides to order more R143s (not happening), the line will remain a mixture of R143s and R160s for quite some time. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJ MC Posted June 23, 2012 Share #441 Posted June 23, 2012 (edited) I'm glad someone brought up the R44s. I did hear only 60 of the R44s were deemed to have structural failures. Not the entire fleet. I have reason to believe the TA removed the whole fleet from service because of that fact or it was a major mistake that we can only hope will not be repeated. Erriely almost very similair to the R27/30s not having A/C when they were retired between 1989-1993. Had the TA kept the SMS R44s and disposed of the remaining R44s with structural probelms, let's just say this thread wouldn't have existed to begin with. Only 144 trains are needed for the C line. There was 172 R44s that had recieved the SMS, which would have been enough for the C line. Plus if the TA SMS'd the 40 other R44s that didn't have structural issues there would be 212 rehabbed R44s and 60 R44s that were going to be scrapped. As for where I got this idea, well start reading folks. http://www.subchat.c...?Id=1158470&p=1 That's all I have to say on that issue. Now everyone knows the truth on what really happened to the R44s. Edited June 23, 2012 by MC CJ 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
East New York Posted June 24, 2012 Share #442 Posted June 24, 2012 Aren't the R32's running on the as of late 10 car trains anyway??? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BroadwayBuffer Posted June 24, 2012 Share #443 Posted June 24, 2012 The is entirely R-46 right now. I don't know of it happening, but if an R-32 did show up on the , it was not intended to be there. I think supervision would avoid doing that at any cost, between sign-changing issues and other confusion it could cause. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Lance Posted June 24, 2012 Share #444 Posted June 24, 2012 Yeah, I saw that post earlier this month and you're right. This problem wouldn't exist if the higher ups in the brass weren't so damn fast in disposing the R44s. What can you do though? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewFlyer 230 Posted June 24, 2012 Share #445 Posted June 24, 2012 If those R42's happen to get scrap along with some of those poorer R46's train then expect lots of shuttle buses throught the city 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheSubwayStation Posted June 24, 2012 Share #446 Posted June 24, 2012 If those R42's happen to get scrap along with some of those poorer R46's train then expect lots of shuttle buses throught the city That's why they're not going to get scrapped... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Threxx Posted June 24, 2012 Share #447 Posted June 24, 2012 Aren't the R32's running on the as of late 10 car trains anyway??? Before the swap, they were 8 car trains. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R32 3838 Posted June 24, 2012 Share #448 Posted June 24, 2012 The R44's needed to go point blank, I rode em, they bodies were shot, the SIRT ones also need to go, Ive seen a picture of the R44's frame, It had NO FRAME LEFT due to rotting, the made the right choice sending the whole fleet bye-bye, as for the R42's its Unknown what they are gonna do with em, I keep hearing they want them gone by the time the R32 SMS is complete, To me that wouldn't be a smart move, if there is talk of extending the , unless that ideas is thrown out , if they need a train they would use a 10 car R32 or R42 for the and they would put a paper in the T/O cab stating this is a 10 CAR train until they lay it up after a round trip. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewFlyer 230 Posted June 24, 2012 Share #449 Posted June 24, 2012 That's why they're not going to get scrapped... But those R42's are rusted like crazy sometimes they look like they just want to fall apart on the Liberty/Rockaway lines. But i hoped the MTA learned their lesson and hopefully plan things out well in advanced. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheSubwayStation Posted June 25, 2012 Share #450 Posted June 25, 2012 But those R42's are rusted like crazy sometimes they look like they just want to fall apart on the Liberty/Rockaway lines. But i hoped the MTA learned their lesson and hopefully plan things out well in advanced. Why would rust on the surface of the train be a serious problem? The structure is fine, as far as we know. Just because they look like they're falling apart certainly doesn't mean that they are. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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