TheNewYorkElevated Posted October 4, 2014 Share #1 Posted October 4, 2014 Just one curious question: What happened to MTA Long Island Bus? I need explanations here! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Q43LTD Posted October 4, 2014 Share #2 Posted October 4, 2014 It died in 2011. It is now NICE. Nassau inter county express. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TrainFanInfinity Posted October 4, 2014 Share #3 Posted October 4, 2014 Owned by Veolia. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobtehpanda Posted October 4, 2014 Share #4 Posted October 4, 2014 Nassau didn't want to pay money, and is now paying less money. What impact that had on actual service quality is sometimes up for debate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Q43LTD Posted October 4, 2014 Share #5 Posted October 4, 2014 You have super republican Ed Mangano to blame for that Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gotham Bus Co. Posted October 4, 2014 Share #6 Posted October 4, 2014 Owned by Veolia. No. Nassau County owns the routes, buses, and garages. Nassau County controls fares and funding levels. Veolia is merely a contract carrier (which was before the transition). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheNewYorkElevated Posted October 4, 2014 Author Share #7 Posted October 4, 2014 Nassau didn't want to pay money, and is now paying less money. What impact that had on actual service quality is sometimes up for debate. It died in 2011. It is now NICE. Nassau inter county express. I'm getting some results... But how did it exactly become NICE? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FamousNYLover Posted October 4, 2014 Share #8 Posted October 4, 2014 I'm getting some results... But how did it exactly become NICE? It got privitazed by Veolia because Nassau County Ex Ed P. Mangano refused to pay $26 million to . http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ed_Mangano#Issues_with_Long_Island_Bus Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MysteriousBtrain Posted October 4, 2014 Share #9 Posted October 4, 2014 I'm getting some results... But how did it exactly become NICE? The desided to cut or eliminate over half of the Nassau routes because Nassau wouldn't pay money for the routes, the biggest effect being south of Hempstead Turnpike and east of Meadowbrook State Parkway having all routes lost (except the N71). The Nassau county didn't want more routes lost or more money spent, so they hired Veolia and NICE was born. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mysterious2train Posted October 4, 2014 Share #10 Posted October 4, 2014 In the past, the MTA helped subsidize the operation of Long Island Bus. Nassau County paid around $9 million dollars a year to help run LIB, but the MTA wanted Nassau to pay a lot more than that; they wanted Nassau to contribute $26 million a year. Nassau County refused, arguing that the MTA was wasteful and inefficient in running LIB. Because Nassau wouldn't increase their contribution, the MTA stopped operating Long Island Bus at the end of 2011. On January 1, 2012, a private company named Veolia began operating Nassau's buses instead, renaming the system NICE (Nassau County Inter-Express). They have made a lot of service changes since then. For what it's worth, Nassau doesn't contribute much to the operation of its bus system compared to other counties. It paid $9 million a year in 2011 to the MTA, and now I believe it pays even less money to Veolia. Westchester and Suffolk pay over $20 million a year toward the operation of their bus systems, so Nassau does look a little stingy in comparison. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aemoreira81 Posted October 4, 2014 Share #11 Posted October 4, 2014 Jagshemash, this a aemoreira81! To answer your question, the county of Nassau changed operators (although the fare payment remains the same), partnering with Transdev to create the system we call....NICE! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T J Trainman Posted October 4, 2014 Share #12 Posted October 4, 2014 Nice is a total disgrace!!!! I HATE them. The MTA needs to return to Nassau county ASAP!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orion VII 4 Life Posted October 4, 2014 Share #13 Posted October 4, 2014 Nice is a total disgrace!!!! I HATE them. The MTA needs to return to Nassau county ASAP!!!! When they elect a new county executive they could decide to not renew the contract with Veolia Transdev and try to get the MTA back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gotham Bus Co. Posted October 4, 2014 Share #14 Posted October 4, 2014 In the past, the MTA helped subsidize the operation of Long Island Bus. That was the biggest part of the problem — the contractor was subsidizing the client, and the client forgot that it was the client. The contractor finally said "No" and the client found a new contractor. Nice is a total disgrace!!!! I HATE them. The MTA needs to return to Nassau county ASAP!!!! The will not voluntarily go back to subsidizing the County. You'll keep standing on that corner, you'll accept whatever service the County feels like paying for, and you'll like it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FamousNYLover Posted October 4, 2014 Share #15 Posted October 4, 2014 When they elect a new county executive they could decide to not renew the contract with Veolia Transdev and try to get the MTA back. Did you know that the Vice Chairman of the Nassau County Bus Transit Committee is ALSO the Vice President of All Island Transportation?! When Nassau County Executive Ed Mangano made his appointments he thought it would be appropriate to place Lawrence W. Blessinger, Jr. on the committee yet he did NOT see fit to appoint a bus rider or rider advocate. This is not only a conflict of interest but a blatant denial of bus riders right to equal representation! 5 members Nassau County Bus Transit Commitee is responsible is for NICE Bus Service. The YOU-KNOW-WHAT is demanding that Nassau County amend their contract with Veolia, NICE Bus operator, to include language that would require a bus rider or rider advocate to sit on the board with equal voting power. SO! We are calling on the community, both bus riders and non-riders, to come and join us on September 22nd in the Nassau County Legislature (1550 Franklin Avenue, Garden City 11501) at 1PM to call upon the Nassau County Legislature to stand with bus riders and give us the equal representation that is our right! Bus riders are tired of a "NICE" Bus system, we want a JUST bus system! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
biGC323232 Posted October 5, 2014 Share #16 Posted October 5, 2014 Wow..I didn't know that Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BM5 via Woodhaven Posted October 5, 2014 Share #17 Posted October 5, 2014 Not this again.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gotham Bus Co. Posted October 5, 2014 Share #18 Posted October 5, 2014 When they elect a new county executive they could decide to not renew the contract with Veolia Transdev and try to get the MTA back. To repeat, the will not voluntarily go back to subsidizing Nassau County. No contractor would ever accept a demand to subsidize its client. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill from Maspeth Posted October 5, 2014 Share #19 Posted October 5, 2014 Magnano got re-elected last November. I'm hoping that the next county exec brings MTA back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hound Posted October 5, 2014 Share #20 Posted October 5, 2014 Jagshemash, this a aemoreira81! To answer your question, the county of Nassau changed operators (although the fare payment remains the same), partnering with Transdev to create the system we call....NICE! NICE sucks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NY1635 Posted October 5, 2014 Share #21 Posted October 5, 2014 To repeat, the will not voluntarily go back to subsidizing Nassau County. No contractor would ever accept a demand to subsidize its client. Why does Nassau County want the MTA or Veolia to subsidize their bus system? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobtehpanda Posted October 5, 2014 Share #22 Posted October 5, 2014 Why does Nassau County want the MTA or Veolia to subsidize their bus system? They got so used to paying $9M a year that they think that's the "correct" price for LIB/NICE. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Culver Posted October 5, 2014 Share #23 Posted October 5, 2014 NICE donated a decent chunk of change to the NY Republican party campaign funds a few years ago when the change happened (and probably still are, I haven't looked at 2013 and 2014 cycles), so they're getting that contract renewed perpetually as long as Mangano is in charge. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
qjtransitmaster Posted October 5, 2014 Share #24 Posted October 5, 2014 Nice is a total disgrace!!!! I HATE them. The MTA needs to return to Nassau county ASAP!!!! Boo hoo read Gotham's post he beat me to it. That was the biggest part of the problem — the contractor was subsidizing the client, and the client forgot that it was the client. The contractor finally said "No" and the client found a new contractor. The will not voluntarily go back to subsidizing the County. You'll keep standing on that corner, you'll accept whatever service the County feels like paying for, and you'll like it. I can only clap for this post sorry no words can be a good enough complement. NICE sucks. Again really? How many times is this now 100 I lost count how many times you said this Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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