jolusoji Posted October 15, 2014 Share #1 Posted October 15, 2014 The Metropolitan Transportation Authority is moving to bring Select Bus Service to one of the busiest routes in Manhattan. Sources tell NY1 the agency wants the service on the 86th Street crosstown line in mid-2015—although a spokesman tells us it's still early in the process. SBS aims to cut down on travel times, offering fewer stops and the chance to pre-pay your fare. Right now there are seven SBS lines in the city, and the MTA plans to bring in several more.http://www.ny1.com/content/news/217247/sources--select-bus-service-coming-to-86th-street/ Not sure what to think about this Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Q43LTD Posted October 15, 2014 Share #2 Posted October 15, 2014 M86 SBS? I'm kinda on the fence about this Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kamen Rider Posted October 15, 2014 Share #3 Posted October 15, 2014 The Central Park crosstowns seem too short on stops to be effective SBS routes IMO Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Union Tpke Posted October 15, 2014 Share #4 Posted October 15, 2014 why? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paulrivera Posted October 15, 2014 Share #5 Posted October 15, 2014 The M86 before the M14? ohh-kay.... But looking at the schedule, the M86 has headways comparable to the Bx12 SBS, so it might work. Then again, the M14A/D looks busier than that on the timetable... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cait Sith Posted October 15, 2014 Share #6 Posted October 15, 2014 That 86 gets slammed in both directions, especially at Lex where it gets the load.This was in the drawing boards for a while and it's ahead of the 14th Street Corridor as laid out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobtehpanda Posted October 15, 2014 Share #7 Posted October 15, 2014 That 86 gets slammed in both directions, especially at Lex where it gets the load. This was in the drawing boards for a while and it's ahead of the 14th Street Corridor as laid out. That list still makes me wonder why Hillside never got off the ground, or was never even talked about. The M86 will probably get the same treatment as the M34; not much in terms of stop reduction, but off-board payments, possibly traffic priority, and in the future bus bulbs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cait Sith Posted October 15, 2014 Share #8 Posted October 15, 2014 That list still makes me wonder why Hillside never got off the ground, or was never even talked about. The M86 will probably get the same treatment as the M34; not much in terms of stop reduction, but off-board payments, possibly traffic priority, and in the future bus bulbs. I wonder the same thing....I want to say NIMBYs, but folks past Springfield have been harping for a long time for better bus service. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MysteriousBtrain Posted October 15, 2014 Share #9 Posted October 15, 2014 Can't wait to see how this turns out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quill Depot Posted October 15, 2014 Share #10 Posted October 15, 2014 They speed right through the park, don't see how it's needed honestly. Why don't they just do pay-before-boarding without the dedicated bus lanes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MHV9218 Posted October 15, 2014 Share #11 Posted October 15, 2014 They speed right through the park, don't see how it's needed honestly. That's not the issue. Loading times at many stops are crazy as tons of people all file up the front steps, quickening that would be a if difference. Same goes for the M14, though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GojiMet86 Posted October 16, 2014 Share #12 Posted October 16, 2014 Think SBS would also be good for the M66? Its stops tend to fill up pretty quickly and the lines tend to be quite long, but I don't know if, aside from equipment, these are bigger issues. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cait Sith Posted October 16, 2014 Share #13 Posted October 16, 2014 Think SBS would also be good for the M66? Its stops tend to fill up pretty quickly and the lines tend to be quite long, but I don't know if, aside from equipment, these are bigger issues. Not at all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FamousNYLover Posted October 16, 2014 Share #14 Posted October 16, 2014 For M86, eastbound bus gets long line especially by Broadway, Central Park West, Lexington Av while westbound gets long line at Lex Av. For M79, eastbound bus gets long line at Broadway, Central Park West while westbound bus gets long line at 5th Av. M66 eastbound gets long line at Amsterdam Av, Broadway, Columbus Av, Central Park West while westbound gets long line at 1st, 3rd, Lex Avs. M96/M106 eastbound gets long line at Broadway, Central Park West, Lex Av (M96) while westbound is at 3rd, Lex, Mad, 5th Av. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RTS CNG Command Posted October 16, 2014 Share #15 Posted October 16, 2014 They speed right through the park, don't see how it's needed honestly. The M86 is extremely busy in both directions. Lexington Avenue, for example, gets rammed with an onslaught of boarding and departing passengers. The overcrowding throughout the line is one big reason why you tend to see consistent bunching throughout the day. But what will the MTA do with their East End Avenue branch (which supplements passengers to the hospital)? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BM5 via Woodhaven Posted October 16, 2014 Share #16 Posted October 16, 2014 The M86 is extremely busy in both directions. Lexington Avenue, for example, gets rammed with an onslaught of boarding and departing passengers. The overcrowding throughout the line is one big reason why you tend to see consistent bunching throughout the day. But what will the MTA do with their East End Avenue branch (which supplements passengers to the hospital)? Well, that branches only has 2 eastbound and 1 eastbound bus per weekday (all in the AM rush). Either they will make a short-turn, or just eliminate it completely. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ConcourseExp Posted October 18, 2014 Share #17 Posted October 18, 2014 They should make a BX1SBS because I am tired of waiting at 149 Street-Grand Concourse for a bus to come and looking around the corner for BX2 to come and tons of people to get on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MysteriousBtrain Posted October 18, 2014 Share #18 Posted October 18, 2014 They should make a BX1SBS because I am tired of waiting at 149 Street-Grand Concourse for a bus to come and looking around the corner for BX2 to come and tons of people to get on. Well, If it weren't for the and on the Concourse and the nearby on Jerome Avenue, it could work. The main reason SBS exists in the first place is because SBS IS A LOT CHEEPER than creating a subway line from scratch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ConcourseExp Posted October 18, 2014 Share #19 Posted October 18, 2014 Well, If it weren't for the and on the Concourse and the nearby on Jerome Avenue, it could work. The main reason SBS exists in the first place is because SBS IS A LOT CHEEPER than creating a subway line from scratch. True, but imagine the M96 was a SBS. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MysteriousBtrain Posted October 18, 2014 Share #20 Posted October 18, 2014 True, but imagine the M96 was a SBS. Keep in mind that not EVERY crosstown needs SBS. Only major routes need SBS. The M14 ,M34, and M86 make sense b/c they have artics, run slow routes, have high ridership, and get crowded easily. I'm not just saying it to you, I'm saying it to everyone on the forums. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bstar1 Posted October 19, 2014 Share #21 Posted October 19, 2014 SBS using low floor attic buses has 3 doors to help people board bus faster. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aemoreira81 Posted October 25, 2014 Share #22 Posted October 25, 2014 I can tell you why the MTA wants SBS on 86 Street in Manhattan---dwell times at Broadway and Lexington Avenue are way too long for the MTA's desires. This could be the MTA's way of cutting a few buses from the line without reducing headways. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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