Caelestor Posted January 5, 2015 Share #101 Posted January 5, 2015 The true benefit of the express services is that they add capacity along existing lines for cheaper than building a new line under a nearby lane. The best expresses are the IRT lines, Queens Blvd, and Brighton Express. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CenSin Posted January 5, 2015 Share #102 Posted January 5, 2015 All of the express lines only save like five minutes anyways. Most of the time you save on the express is psychological. When transfers are necessary (which is for most passengers), I think the time adds up. Delays become magnified with each additional transfer, so those 5 minutes saved could potentially be 15. I ran downstairs for a downtown train at 34 Street–Penn Station and ended up catching an because the required me to use the crossunder. That extra stop cost me a transfer to the at West 4 Street–Washington Square which I saw leaving the station by the time I made it down the stairs. The next one came 12 minutes later. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ConcourseExp Posted January 5, 2015 Author Share #103 Posted January 5, 2015 The true benefit of the express services is that they add capacity along existing lines for cheaper than building a new line under a nearby lane. The best expresses are the IRT lines, Queens Blvd, and Brighton Express. I agree with everything you said, but the Queens Blvd express is horrible. During rush hours is one thing, but the frequency between the two lines is like waiting for a at East 180 Street at late night. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BronxBombers Posted January 5, 2015 Share #104 Posted January 5, 2015 I agree with everything you said, but the Queens Blvd express is horrible. During rush hours is one thing, but the frequency between the two lines is like waiting for a at East 180 Street at late night. Not really.. Outside of Rush hours and except for weekends, the frequency between the two lines are great. The comes every 6-8 minutes or so and so does the . Unless your talking about a delay on the QBL or late night frequencies when all trains run at 20 minute interval. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MTA Dude Posted January 5, 2015 Share #105 Posted January 5, 2015 I agree with everything you said, but the Queens Blvd express is horrible. NOOO! You can save 10 minutes from the entire run! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Juelz4309 Posted January 7, 2015 Share #106 Posted January 7, 2015 Well Lemme chime in on this great topic...seen some great posts by the way so thas wassup!!! I like the Hands down..I live on white plains rd@ 225 St ...Work on the eastside @ 59/Madison.. mon-fri 9 to 5...Its a great express minus the crapshoot evry day between Jackson-125(SB) but gives me more nap time lol.But even in the peak rush from 42-125 Especially southbound they book it up/down Lex...Comin home isnt always a one seat ride becuase the afternoon 5s to 238 Seem to come at will ..2 back to back then all dyre for 20+ minutes..But when they do come 90% of the time they go express 180-gun hill rd...thats only 7 stops from 59 st goin uptown!!! Gotta Love The ...#BringBackTheDiamond5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BronxBombers Posted January 7, 2015 Share #107 Posted January 7, 2015 Well Lemme chime in on this great topic...seen some great posts by the way so thas wassup!!! I like the Hands down..I live on white plains rd@ 225 St ...Work on the eastside @ 59/Madison.. mon-fri 9 to 5...Its a great express minus the crapshoot evry day between Jackson-125(SB) but gives me more nap time lol.But even in the peak rush from 42-125 Especially southbound they book it up/down Lex...Comin home isnt always a one seat ride becuase the afternoon 5s to 238 Seem to come at will ..2 back to back then all dyre for 20+ minutes..But when they do come 90% of the time they go express 180-gun hill rd...thats only 7 stops from 59 st goin uptown!!! Gotta Love The ...#BringBackTheDiamond5 Well.. the is still the same as the regular they just changed the logo. But yeah I love the train. Aside from being my home route it's easily one of my favorite lines. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Juelz4309 Posted January 8, 2015 Share #108 Posted January 8, 2015 Well.. the is still the same as the regular they just changed the logo. But yeah I love the train. Aside from being my home route it's easily one of my favorite lines. Well if thats the case here we go... 1. Why the<A> To Rock Pk???? 2.It is two physically seprate routes North of 180th(5) Dyre Ave AND Nereid-238.....So why not make it easier on the people by knowing Immeadiately which line it is....as it used to be before they pulled it... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MysteriousBtrain Posted January 8, 2015 Share #109 Posted January 8, 2015 Well if thats the case here we go... 1. Why the<A> To Rock Pk???? 2.It is two physically seprate routes North of 180th(5) Dyre Ave AND Nereid-238.....So why not make it easier on the people by knowing Immeadiately which line it is....as it used to be before they pulled it...1. It provides service to Rockaway park riders who wand direct service to Manhattan.2.I wish they never took away the label, but even with the reshape, I'm pretty sure tourists going north of 180 Street would be confused of their label. I remember this one time my middle school teacher was using the to go to Burke Avenue, but he mistook the for the original and I had to help him transfer to the in order to be on time on our field trip. IDK how, but I agree and disagree with you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RTOMan Posted January 8, 2015 Share #110 Posted January 8, 2015 I agree with everything you said, but the Queens Blvd express is horrible. During rush hours is one thing, but the frequency between the two lines is like waiting for a at East 180 Street at late night. Uh unless there's workers out on the tracks Queens blvd express moves.. What time of the day you ride it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheNewYorkElevated Posted January 8, 2015 Share #111 Posted January 8, 2015 , , , and the are the best express lines in my opinion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YankeesPwnMets Posted January 9, 2015 Share #112 Posted January 9, 2015 Well if thats the case here we go... 1. Why the<A> To Rock Pk???? 2.It is two physically seprate routes North of 180th(5) Dyre Ave AND Nereid-238.....So why not make it easier on the people by knowing Immeadiately which line it is....as it used to be before they pulled it... It would cost money to change all the signs to <A>. Plus, they would need new rollsigns on the R46s to accommodate that. Back before the countdown clocks were created, it was definitely more beneficial to have the bullet, but now with the countdown clocks, it's pretty easy to tell whether the train is going to Nereid or Eastchester. The MTA used to use diamonds to designate rush hour services (ie. , <R>, I believe they used to use a too) but they got rid of the diamonds about 10 years ago. Now, it's only used to designate express services Edit: Here is an old map with the diamonds http://web.archive.org/web/20040326024754/http://www.mta.info/nyct/maps/subwaymap.pdf Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobtehpanda Posted January 9, 2015 Share #113 Posted January 9, 2015 It would cost money to change all the signs to <A>. Plus, they would need new rollsigns on the R46s to accommodate that. Back before the countdown clocks were created, it was definitely more beneficial to have the bullet, but now with the countdown clocks, it's pretty easy to tell whether the train is going to Nereid or Eastchester. The MTA used to use diamonds to designate rush hour services (ie. , <R>, I believe they used to use a too) but they got rid of the diamonds about 10 years ago. Now, it's only used to designate express services Edit: Here is an old map with the diamonds http://web.archive.org/web/20040326024754/http://www.mta.info/nyct/maps/subwaymap.pdf Looking at that thing reminds me of how awful those bus route boxes were... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TDXNYC88 Posted January 9, 2015 Share #114 Posted January 9, 2015 I agree with everything you said, but the Queens Blvd express is horrible. During rush hours is one thing, but the frequency between the two lines is like waiting for a at East 180 Street at late night. You probably caught it in the aftermath of a sick passenger/12-9/random investigation/track inspection. Those lines are quite frequent during the midday with intervals of 2-5 minutes. How is that a bad thing? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lance Posted January 9, 2015 Share #115 Posted January 9, 2015 It would cost money to change all the signs to <A>. Plus, they would need new rollsigns on the R46s to accommodate that. Back before the countdown clocks were created, it was definitely more beneficial to have the bullet, but now with the countdown clocks, it's pretty easy to tell whether the train is going to Nereid or Eastchester. The MTA used to use diamonds to designate rush hour services (ie. , <R>, I believe they used to use a too) but they got rid of the diamonds about 10 years ago. Now, it's only used to designate express services Edit: Here is an old map with the diamonds http://web.archive.org/web/20040326024754/http://www.mta.info/nyct/maps/subwaymap.pdf You also have to remember this. When the diamond routes came about in '79, they were only used for rush-hour routes, like the N to Whitehall St or the R to Chambers St/Centre St. Those rush-hour A trips to Rockaway Park fit that criteria. However, when the rules regarding diamond services changed in 2005 to simplify services, the Rockaway Park A no longer qualified for such a designation since diamond services now mean an express variant to a local service that is running at the same time. By the way, I do not miss those bus bubbles on the map. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Juelz4309 Posted January 10, 2015 Share #116 Posted January 10, 2015 Ok I can agree with ya guys on the whole diamond ur not theory...But I Just feel like The diamonds add a bit of pizzazz to the services... But i do have to agree with the fact that with the arrival of countdown clocks its day n nite...Matta fact I rode the D Up to 125 earlier this evening around 530pm.. and had to wait for the A up to 181..I felt lost for a few minutes...so used to bein on my IRT lines lol...I hope MTA rolls out the clocks in manhattan at least on the lettered lines this year.... P.S For those who have made comments regarding the way I type on this forum Listen up...This isnt a college final exam aight! this is a group of individuals including myself who share an enthusiasm for trains and the like...I havent been flagged by the moderator for anything I post on here...So spare me....Peace N love Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CenSin Posted January 10, 2015 Share #117 Posted January 10, 2015 P.S For those who have made comments regarding the way I type on this forum Listen up...This isnt a college final exam aight! this is a group of individuals including myself who share an enthusiasm for trains and the like...I havent been flagged by the moderator for anything I post on here...So spare me....Peace N love As long as you feel in your mind that you're not destroying your own ability to write… Some members may have a difficult time deciphering things you write and may make a remark about it, but ultimately, it's your responsibility to keep your skills sharp. I personally avoid dropping to the laziest method of expressing myself in writing out of fear of turning it into a habit. Habits are hard to kick, and you may find it sneaking into places that they shouldn't be in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neilr Posted January 12, 2015 Share #118 Posted January 12, 2015 The A & D trains running non-stop from 59th St. to 125 St. was always a great ride. Bypassed a lot of local stops. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IRT Bronx Express Posted January 14, 2015 Share #119 Posted January 14, 2015 (2)/(3) 7 Ave Exp 6 Ave Exp/Central Park and Concourse Exp (excluding that awful Yankee Stadium stop) Bronx Express downtown Flushing Exp Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mediccjh Posted January 14, 2015 Share #120 Posted January 14, 2015 6 Av Express is faster in terms of speed limits for us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BronxBombers Posted January 14, 2015 Share #121 Posted January 14, 2015 (2)/(3) 7 Ave Exp 6 Ave Exp/Central Park and Concourse Exp (excluding that awful Yankee Stadium stop) Bronx Express downtown Flushing Exp Bronx Express Uptown is better... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MTA Dude Posted January 15, 2015 Share #122 Posted January 15, 2015 Bronx Express Uptown is better... What's the difference? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BronxBombers Posted January 15, 2015 Share #123 Posted January 15, 2015 What's the difference? I just like the uptown express better, it's much faster compare to the downtown express. Plus after Hunts Point the 6 hauls ass to Parkchester. Try it you will see the difference. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MTA Dude Posted January 15, 2015 Share #124 Posted January 15, 2015 I just like the uptown express better, it's much faster compare to the downtown express. Plus after Hunts Point the 6 hauls ass to Parkchester. Try it you will see the difference. Sorry, I'm not allowed to railfan. Maybe in 10 years... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RTOMan Posted January 17, 2015 Share #125 Posted January 17, 2015 6 Av Express is faster in terms of speed limits for us. That "Dash" between 34th and West Fourth just rocks..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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