LegoBrickBreaker101 Posted November 23, 2017 Share #4426 Posted November 23, 2017 5 minutes ago, BVERailer said: What lines are the R179's running on again? I know they are running on the and , but are there any others? They'll be going to the , and / . 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bosco Posted November 23, 2017 Share #4427 Posted November 23, 2017 1 hour ago, Lawrence St said: An update on the programming issues for the R179: One of my T/O friends tested the program on 3010 this week and it did not have the 's next stop announcement and instead used the default one found on the . I have no clue what if this is intentional or not but I'm guessing it's a program glitch because the TOD software lags like crazy when the Next Stop cycle is requested, hence that long pause between announcements. The lag between the doors opening and the "This is a ..." is also atrocious. Thankfully these coding issues can easily be fixed in-house. 1 hour ago, bstar1 said: When they going to start testing them on line? Once 3058-3065 passes the 30-day revenue test, the other trains can start service and the production cars can start being accepted. At that point, I would imagine it won't be long before 3010-3019 and 3050-3057 go into service on the and respectively. 3 hours ago, LGA Link N train said: Did the MTA complain to Bombardier about this?? Why would the MTA complain to Bombardier if the MTA are the ones who outline the specifications? The issue with the bonnet, if it is an issue, is 100% the MTA's responsibility. The carbuilder's job is to meet the MTA's design specifications and guidelines. It's because Bombardier didn't meet the MTA's standards initially that we got into this mess in the first place. And as Lance and others have said, the timing of the issue coming to light really bizarre and reeks of TWU being opportunists with all the R179 issues. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LTA1992 Posted November 23, 2017 Share #4428 Posted November 23, 2017 8 hours ago, Lance said: A reminder: the 142s had similar teething issues when they first arrived back in 2000. If I recall correctly, they couldn't make it a couple of days before being taken out of service during their initial testing phase. Of course, these cars have since proven their worth time and again by being one of the most reliable car fleets of the past decade. I wouldn't be so quick to throw in the towel just yet on these cars. Im glad I'm not the only one that recognizes this fact. Especially since I'm already fond of it. I'm rooting for history to repeat. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Calvin Posted November 23, 2017 Share #4429 Posted November 23, 2017 (edited) If the test resumes on a date given, does it go back to the first day or continue as day 2? Edited November 23, 2017 by Calvin 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Around the Horn Posted November 23, 2017 Share #4430 Posted November 23, 2017 8 minutes ago, Calvin said: If the test resumes on a date given, does it go back to the first day or continue as day 2? Its day 1 like Sunday didn't happen 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paulrivera Posted November 23, 2017 Share #4431 Posted November 23, 2017 Are the 8-car unit and the 10-car unit considered separate for the purpose of the 30 day test? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R42N Posted November 23, 2017 Share #4432 Posted November 23, 2017 9 hours ago, paulrivera said: Are the 8-car unit and the 10-car unit considered separate for the purpose of the 30 day test? No, it’s just one test-car for the entire fleet that needs to go 30 consecutive days. I’d assume when the R211’s come in, they might need to do two separate tests for the standard R211 and the articulated one. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trainfan22 Posted November 23, 2017 Share #4433 Posted November 23, 2017 (edited) The train will return to service tomorrow, according to this daily news article http://www.nydailynews.com/new-york/subway-newest-740m-train-breaks-day-article-1.3652468 “The testing process involves putting cars into service and routinely reviewing their performance,” MTA spokesman Shams Tarek said. “This testing will continue on Friday and we’re looking forward to fully deploying these trains Edited November 23, 2017 by trainfan22 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2 Train Master Posted November 23, 2017 Share #4434 Posted November 23, 2017 Glad to see these subway cars in service, however some of you are going nuts over things that will eventually be handled in a timely manner. Not sure if some of you read or can read but go back in history to the R-46's when they were constantly being pulled from service several times a week for cracks in their trucks a design flaw by Pullman during the first few years of service, obviously they aren't plagued with that issue anymore but look where the 46's are now 43 years later. The recent issue with the door chime and announcement delay issue, if you ride the R-142 or R-142A's sometimes the door chime goes off without the doors moving I've seen it for the past 16 years of riding those trains on the and . Another sometimes the announcement plays before the doors open(in a certain section of the train), or vice versa the announcements continue to play while the doors are open because they havent finished yet(ie. 59th St). Every subway car has their issue,iirc the R-143's had a very successful test and just a few years ago weren't some units moving a few inches while doors were opened in the station. Just need to chill they'll be fine and around into the next part of the century. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LegoBrickBreaker101 Posted November 24, 2017 Share #4435 Posted November 24, 2017 5 hours ago, trainfan22 said: The train will return to service tomorrow, according to this daily news article http://www.nydailynews.com/new-york/subway-newest-740m-train-breaks-day-article-1.3652468 Anyone know what time it'll be out on its first run tomorrow? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R42N Posted November 24, 2017 Share #4436 Posted November 24, 2017 3 hours ago, LegoBrickBreaker101 said: Anyone know what time it'll be out on its first run tomorrow? Not trying to offend your comment, I’m somewhat curious as well, but does it really matter? I’d guess around the same time it started on Sunday, but honestly, it really doesn’t make a difference after it’s first go-around last week. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LegoBrickBreaker101 Posted November 24, 2017 Share #4437 Posted November 24, 2017 2 minutes ago, R42N said: Not trying to offend your comment, I’m somewhat curious as well, but does it really matter? I’d guess around the same time it started on Sunday, but honestly, it really doesn’t make a difference after it’s first go-around last week. It doesn't matter, I wanted to see if there was a very strong chance of it showing up on the tomorrow but whatever 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R42N Posted November 24, 2017 Share #4438 Posted November 24, 2017 1 minute ago, LegoBrickBreaker101 said: It doesn't matter, I wanted to see if there was a very strong chance of it showing up on the tomorrow but whatever Yeah, that’s a good question. I’ll probably be somewhere along Nassau Street tomorrow evening for the entire train departure bank between 4:55 and 5:45 to catch it. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lawrence St Posted November 24, 2017 Share #4439 Posted November 24, 2017 They removed the door delay, but the announcement delay is still there. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2 Train Master Posted November 24, 2017 Share #4440 Posted November 24, 2017 I'm just curious, is the "announcement lag" an issue involving the train set from properly operating in a timely manner? or are you guys/gals(buffs) making a deal out of it because it doesn't meet your needs for loading/unloading time? If its the second option just chill, we've all taken the subway during rush hour and some stations the doors stay open longer than usual for reasons of crowds, train connections, someone holding doors, or a train being held etc, but it seems as if this delay is accounting for an additional 5-15 seconds( being generous) per station please correct me if I'm wrong shouldn't be an issue. As for as the announcement lag the situation can be adjusted by the C/R making announcements the old fashioned way until the "delay" is handled. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
subwaycommuter1983 Posted November 24, 2017 Share #4441 Posted November 24, 2017 2 hours ago, 2 Train Master said: I'm just curious, is the "announcement lag" an issue involving the train set from properly operating in a timely manner? or are you guys/gals(buffs) making a deal out of it because it doesn't meet your needs for loading/unloading time? If its the second option just chill, we've all taken the subway during rush hour and some stations the doors stay open longer than usual for reasons of crowds, train connections, someone holding doors, or a train being held etc, but it seems as if this delay is accounting for an additional 5-15 seconds( being generous) per station please correct me if I'm wrong shouldn't be an issue. As for as the announcement lag the situation can be adjusted by the C/R making announcements the old fashioned way until the "delay" is handled. Thank you and I agree. I don't see the big deal with the "announcement lag", if there is any. In fact, I see this beneficial, especially during rush hour. I think it's a bigger priority to fix the mechanical issues that are affecting the r179's. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bosco Posted November 24, 2017 Share #4442 Posted November 24, 2017 1 hour ago, subwaycommuter1983 said: Thank you and I agree. I don't see the big deal with the "announcement lag", if there is any. In fact, I see this beneficial, especially during rush hour. I think it's a bigger priority to fix the mechanical issues that are affecting the r179's. That, and AAS software issues are the easiest thing to fix. When the R160s first starting running, the AAS was horribly unreliable and froze all the time. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
subwaycommuter1983 Posted November 24, 2017 Share #4443 Posted November 24, 2017 Enjoy! 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VIP Posted November 24, 2017 Share #4444 Posted November 24, 2017 It was nice seeing some of y’all on the R179’s this evening! I haven’t noticed the delayed automated announcements but I did notice average riders noticing the new equipment and making comments. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
subwaycommuter1983 Posted November 25, 2017 Share #4445 Posted November 25, 2017 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
danielhg121 Posted November 25, 2017 Share #4446 Posted November 25, 2017 Anybody know when the first run was today? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Around the Horn Posted November 25, 2017 Share #4447 Posted November 25, 2017 Here's a few of my photos from earlier today. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R42N Posted November 25, 2017 Share #4448 Posted November 25, 2017 28 minutes ago, Around the Horn said: Here's a few of my photos from earlier today. Looks like the R179’s bullet is easier to photograph. The R160 is totally patchy (circle in-complete, letter grainy) with a camera during the day. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eric B Posted November 25, 2017 Share #4449 Posted November 25, 2017 The letter looks more natural too. But they had to stick with the red only! 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R42N Posted November 25, 2017 Share #4450 Posted November 25, 2017 51 minutes ago, Eric B said: The letter looks more natural too. But they had to stick with the red only! They should have taken a look at your avatar, haha. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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