R68OnBroadway Posted November 20, 2017 Share #4376 Posted November 20, 2017 2 hours ago, trainfan22 said: I ridden 160s on the CPW express when they had that trains go express in both directions in Manthattan G.O, it was quite fast. Can't wait to see them on the as operators always go slow on the 46s. Hopefully CPW and JFK-67th/90th will hit higher speeds (50-55 mph) 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dj Hammers Posted November 20, 2017 Share #4377 Posted November 20, 2017 The very first passenger run of the R179! 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IAlam Posted November 20, 2017 Share #4378 Posted November 20, 2017 (edited) 3 hours ago, Dj Hammers said: The very first passenger run of the R179! It's nice that everything looks new and polished, but other than that still really bulky, and looks messy like the R142. The R142A/188 and the R143/160 look much nicer IMO Hopefully when I go back on Tuesday I can catch it for myself and see what it's like. Edited November 20, 2017 by IAlam 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R32 3838 Posted November 20, 2017 Share #4379 Posted November 20, 2017 18 hours ago, Cait Sith said: Safe to say that they did pretty damn well on their first day, outside of the train hitting debris(i think a milk crate or something) causing it to go BIE. Let's hope that it stays that way. I saw them heading to the yard from Jamaica Center around 7:45pm. It got taken out oos due to an issue later on after the 1st incident. The train was supposed to run until 12am 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MysteriousBtrain Posted November 20, 2017 Share #4380 Posted November 20, 2017 10 minutes ago, R32 3838 said: It got taken out oos due to an issue later on after the 1st incident. The train was supposed to run until 12am You telling me another issue occured? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LTA1992 Posted November 20, 2017 Share #4381 Posted November 20, 2017 36 minutes ago, MysteriousBtrain said: You telling me another issue occured? Not with the train. Some guy had a blade and was arrested. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Around the Horn Posted November 20, 2017 Share #4382 Posted November 20, 2017 There was a door issue at 111th around 7PM that ended its day early and reset the 30 day clock which is why it wasn't out today. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JTrainUK Posted November 20, 2017 Share #4383 Posted November 20, 2017 Shame I couldn’t get out to ride it yesterday, all I can really say for now is it certainly won’t be that clean for long! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheNewYorkElevated Posted November 20, 2017 Share #4384 Posted November 20, 2017 (edited) It was nice seeing the R179 in action yesterday. I'm happy that it's finally seeing passenger service. Edited November 20, 2017 by TheNewYorkElevated 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R188 7857 Posted November 20, 2017 Share #4385 Posted November 20, 2017 15 hours ago, IAlam said: It's nice that everything looks new and polished, but other than that still really bulky, and looks messy like the R142. The R142A/188 and the R143/160 look much nicer IMO Hopefully when I go back on Tuesday I can catch it for myself and see what it's like. I thought I was the only one who thought that. The Bombardier NTTs seem to feel/look different from the other ones (more bulky). It's minor differences (window frames, red light for doors) but it really does make the train feel a lot different than other NTTs. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
<6>PelhamExp Posted November 21, 2017 Share #4386 Posted November 21, 2017 Based on the videos that I've seen on the forums and YouTube... It seem that the door chime on the R179 are a bit different than whats on the R160s. Correct me if I am wrong, but the door chime sounds very similar, if not the same, to the door chime that is on the R142? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IAlam Posted November 21, 2017 Share #4387 Posted November 21, 2017 51 minutes ago, <6>PelhamExp said: Based on the videos that I've seen on the forums and YouTube... It seem that the door chime on the R179 are a bit different than whats on the R160s. Correct me if I am wrong, but the door chime sounds very similar, if not the same, to the door chime that is on the R142? sounds lit that to me. 4 hours ago, R188 7857 said: I thought I was the only one who thought that. The Bombardier NTTs seem to feel/look different from the other ones (more bulky). It's minor differences (window frames, red light for doors) but it really does make the train feel a lot different than other NTTs. the other NTT's like slimmer and sharper. While everything here looks wider and fatter. Idk why but it makes it feel more like a knock off. I guess it's because I'm so accustomed to the other trains. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R68OnBroadway Posted November 21, 2017 Share #4388 Posted November 21, 2017 I actually kind of like the bulkiness (have not ridden it yet, just seen it) as it reminds me of the bulky 75-footers. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fresh Pond Posted November 21, 2017 Share #4389 Posted November 21, 2017 5 hours ago, <6>PelhamExp said: Based on the videos that I've seen on the forums and YouTube... It seem that the door chime on the R179 are a bit different than whats on the R160s. Correct me if I am wrong, but the door chime sounds very similar, if not the same, to the door chime that is on the R142? Sounds the same to me, but for some reason they changed it to play BEFORE the doors closed compared to it playing while the doors are closing 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R42N Posted November 21, 2017 Share #4390 Posted November 21, 2017 3 hours ago, Fresh Pond said: Sounds the same to me, but for some reason they changed it to play BEFORE the doors closed compared to it playing while the doors are closing That’s correct, which means that it’s now more of an advanced warning compared to a door-closing chime. I do wonder if this extra 2 seconds of lag time is an issue, though. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lawrence St Posted November 21, 2017 Share #4391 Posted November 21, 2017 Just a heads up; The R179's won' return to service for a while following door problems that occurred at 111th St on Sunday. They have to figure out what hapoened, why it happened, so it's not going to return to service for probably another week at least. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fresh Pond Posted November 21, 2017 Share #4392 Posted November 21, 2017 2 hours ago, R42N said: That’s correct, which means that it’s now more of an advanced warning compared to a door-closing chime. I do wonder if this extra 2 seconds of lag time is an issue, though. With the way the announcements seem more dragged out along with it, it could be down the line 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lawrence St Posted November 21, 2017 Share #4393 Posted November 21, 2017 Tell me about it, I hate that long pause between train and the next stop is. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R42N Posted November 21, 2017 Share #4394 Posted November 21, 2017 (edited) So, the 179 failed on day one? Is it back today? Edit: Thanks Lawrence St, that's crazy. The R188 made it all 30 days on it's first try. So cheap. Edited November 21, 2017 by R42N 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R42N Posted November 21, 2017 Share #4395 Posted November 21, 2017 Ok, I’m going to propose something that is so stupid, I fully understand if you want to shoot it down, but take a look at these clips. First, here is the R142A: (Specifically watch at 1:19 if it doesn’t take you there) Notice how the “This is a” starts immediately when the door opens, maybe before the doors fully open, and “the next stop is” immediately follows without pause. Stand Clear is called, and once Charlie says “Please”, the door starts to close with the fantastic R142A Double Chime. It takes from 1:21 until 1:34 for the train to be in the station, exactly 13 seconds, which is all it should take when there are no crowds. Now watch the R179: (:28) It takes from :29 to :44 just to do the formalities up until stand clear of the closing doors, and from :51 to :56 with the now are door warning chime (it comes before the closing doors) no longer a door closing chime. That’s exactly 20 seconds devoted to announcements, and I’m being generous by excusing the 7 second gap in the middle that held the train. I know one might say I’m making a big deal over a 7 second difference, but the difference between a 13 second announcement and a 20 second one is 35% increase in announcement time, which is a huge unnecessary increase. So, if Bombardier and the MTA can’t get the chime to go with the closing doors, (which they should absolutely do, as it’s an extra indicator to watch the doors as they are closing) you might have to axe the chime for the R179 order. That would cut out 5 seconds, and reduce dwell time to something comparable to the 142 and the 160. Again, option one should be coordinating it with the closing doors, but if they can’t do that, then they might have to consider this. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Around the Horn Posted November 21, 2017 Share #4396 Posted November 21, 2017 If what I'm reading on Twitter is correct, they have way bigger problems than malfunctioning doors on their hands... 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R42N Posted November 21, 2017 Share #4397 Posted November 21, 2017 (edited) 5 minutes ago, Around the Horn said: If what I'm reading on Twitter is correct, they have way bigger problems than malfunctioning doors on their hands... Well, that was tweeted out prior to Sunday’s commencement, so while scary, I feel like the MTA thinks they can deal with it. Edited November 21, 2017 by R42N 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GojiMet86 Posted November 21, 2017 Share #4398 Posted November 21, 2017 And this is something that hasn't been brought up before? Strange timing... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cait Sith Posted November 21, 2017 Share #4399 Posted November 21, 2017 16 minutes ago, GojiMet86 said: And this is something that hasn't been brought up before? Strange timing... A day before the tests at that. I wonder if they did anything prior to the testing. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rbrome Posted November 21, 2017 Share #4400 Posted November 21, 2017 Um. Systems all over the world have open gangways (so ZERO access in this area) and this isn't seen as a critical safety issue. Even NYC is ordering open-gangway cars, and the MTA (finally) seems enthusiastic about it. Further, it seems like this change makes it far more difficult for someone (passenger or employee) moving between cars to fall under by accident. So it's far safer for far more common scenarios. So maybe this is just a trade-off we're going to have to accept, and perhaps should even welcome? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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