R3216068E Posted June 18, 2015 Share #1776 Posted June 18, 2015 You'd have to run double the current amount of trains through the 60th St tubes to make up for the loss of the once it's rerouted to 2nd Ave. How would that be any less congested than the current services or pre-2010 when the ran through there? You're calling for two lines instead of three. But it'll still be the same number of trains going through there. Unless you're suggesting a service cut to Astoria, which would definitely not go over well with anyone who rides the N, Q or R lines. True I agree and I am definitely not suggesting a service cut to astoria but if the does return it would only use 10 sets of trains like it did before and do you think the why do you think the was one of the worst subway lines back in the day 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R179 8258 Posted June 18, 2015 Share #1777 Posted June 18, 2015 I'm asking. Didn't Coney Island send some 160 sets to Jamaica after the was eliminated. Can't they just get those sets back. All the 91xx-early 92xx sets ? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RollOver Posted June 18, 2015 Share #1778 Posted June 18, 2015 True I agree and I am definitely not suggesting a service cut to astoria but if the does return it would only use 10 sets of trains like it did before and do you think the why do you think the was one of the worst subway lines back in the day Is public transportation a competition over which train or bus line is "best" or "worst"? No. The Straphangers Campaign is just some advocacy group, not an official poll. All lines and fleets have their pros and cons universally. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R3216068E Posted June 18, 2015 Share #1779 Posted June 18, 2015 service CAN NOT be increased. It is bottlenecked by Dekalb Avenue during the rush hours. Adding the and having the run express, with the and still running via the Bridge would eliminate the troublesome delays caused by switching at Prince Street, while increasing line capacity. I think it would handle the switching problem at prince st but would it handle the Astoria problem the used only half the number of trains the and used so I'm wondering if it would really help out in astoria 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R3216068E Posted June 18, 2015 Share #1780 Posted June 18, 2015 Is public transportation a competition over which train or bus line is "best" or "worst"? No. The Straphangers Campaign is just some advocacy group, not an official poll. All lines and fleets have their pros and cons universally. No public transportation isn't a competition but it's about getting people to where they need to go and making public transportation as reliable as you can while transporting straphangers 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R3216068E Posted June 18, 2015 Share #1781 Posted June 18, 2015 True I agree and I am definitely not suggesting a service cut to astoria but if the does return it would only use 10 sets of trains like it did before and do you think the was reliable itself why do you think the was one of the worst subway lines back in the day 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dj Hammers Posted June 18, 2015 Share #1782 Posted June 18, 2015 I think it would handle the switching problem at prince st but would it handle the Astoria problem the used only half the number of trains the and used so I'm wondering if it would really help out in astoria Yes the would help. It is impossible to increase service past its current level, and current service is known to not be enough for Astoria. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
subwayboy Posted June 18, 2015 Share #1783 Posted June 18, 2015 if i just type w by itself, does it automatically become a line? (testing) if i just type w by itself, does it automatically become a line? (testing) Apparently not...so how is this done, boys? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MysteriousBtrain Posted June 18, 2015 Share #1784 Posted June 18, 2015 if i just type w by itself, does it automatically become a line? (testing) Apparently not...so how is this done, boys? Type "(w)" to make a . 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R3216068E Posted June 19, 2015 Share #1785 Posted June 19, 2015 (edited) Yes the would help. It is impossible to increase service past its current level, and current service is known to not be enough for Astoria. Okay hopefully the will help now let's get back to topic do you know if the or is going to use any R179s to increase service Edited June 19, 2015 by R3216068E 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RollOver Posted June 19, 2015 Share #1786 Posted June 19, 2015 (edited) Nobody here, myself included, knows where the five-car 179s are going yet. Neither do we know if they're going to run a flood of trains on the entire line or restore the 2004-2010 once the is permanently rerouted to SAS. Honestly, why did you brought this discussion thing up again? I mean we already had a thread about that already. In fact, we had millions of threads about that in the previous years as well as this year. Many, if not, all of them have been talked about to death. Sit back and wait. Edited June 19, 2015 by RollOver 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JayJay85 Posted June 19, 2015 Share #1787 Posted June 19, 2015 Yes the would help. It is impossible to increase service past its current level, and current service is known to not be enough for Astoria. Yea the had problems in the 1990's because Astoria line was underserved its no way Astoria can't go back to its 1990's service levels. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VIP Posted June 19, 2015 Share #1788 Posted June 19, 2015 The 179s are going on the most likely to bump off a few more 160s to Jamaica since QBL is supposed to be CBTC they want all the lines to be Fully NTT. But thats still in the Air. Jamaica is Not surrendering any R160's even if the returns although I hear its not. more trains will be added, that was and still is the plan. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JayJay85 Posted June 19, 2015 Share #1789 Posted June 19, 2015 MTA announced 5cars sets of R179 will be delivered first before 4car sets comes. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MysteriousBtrain Posted June 19, 2015 Share #1790 Posted June 19, 2015 MTA announced 5cars sets of R179 will be delivered first before 4car sets comes.Will they be expected to arrive in the summer? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fan Railer Posted June 19, 2015 Share #1791 Posted June 19, 2015 (edited) Still don't understand what all this new assignment speculation is all about... the original plan makes the most sense. Keep the R179s based out of 207 and pitkin only, run them on the & . Bump four R46 trains back to Jamaica, and reassign four R160 trains from Jamaica back to Coney Island to service the extension. Edited June 19, 2015 by Fan Railer 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RollOver Posted June 19, 2015 Share #1792 Posted June 19, 2015 Still don't understand what all this new assignment speculation is all about... the original plan makes the most sense. Keep the R179s based out of 207 and pitkin only, run them on the & . Bump four R46 trains back to Jamaica, and reassign four R160 trains from Jamaica back to Coney Island to service the extension. This. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lance Posted June 20, 2015 Share #1793 Posted June 20, 2015 Still don't understand what all this new assignment speculation is all about... the original plan makes the most sense. Keep the R179s based out of 207 and pitkin only, run them on the & . Bump four R46 trains back to Jamaica, and reassign four R160 trains from Jamaica back to Coney Island to service the extension. I was just going to say the exact same thing. Keep the yard assignments simple and base the 179s out of 207th Street and East New York. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R3216068E Posted June 20, 2015 Share #1794 Posted June 20, 2015 Yeah there aren't going to be enough R179s to go around anyway so keep the assignments simple when they get here replace the oldest equipment in the system 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RollOver Posted June 20, 2015 Share #1795 Posted June 20, 2015 Yeah, that's just that. The four-car sets can run on the at any given time like the four-car 160s. The five-car sets of 179s would only be used on the as put-ins and limited runs. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ttcsubwayfan Posted June 20, 2015 Share #1796 Posted June 20, 2015 The five-car sets of 179s would only be used on the as put-ins and limited runs. Why would they not be able to be used on full time runs? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RollOver Posted June 20, 2015 Share #1797 Posted June 20, 2015 (edited) Sigh, rewording my second sentence...the five-car 179s can run at any given time on the too. Edited June 20, 2015 by RollOver 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fan Railer Posted June 20, 2015 Share #1798 Posted June 20, 2015 Sigh, rewording my second sentence...the five-car 179s can run at any given time on the too. They will likely be assigned to specific runs on the , like the R68A set is during the evening rush hour. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R3216068E Posted June 20, 2015 Share #1799 Posted June 20, 2015 They will likely be assigned to specific runs on the , like the R68A set is during the evening rush hour. The R179s are going to be rare in the they are most likely going to be used as emergency trains they are also going to send them to Lefferts before they test them in the Rockaways 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ttcsubwayfan Posted June 20, 2015 Share #1800 Posted June 20, 2015 They will likely be assigned to specific runs on the , like the R68A set is during the evening rush hour. The reason the R68A is assigned to a specific run is because it's a borrowed vehicle from another yard, and having it follow the same schedule every single day means it always gets back to its home yard at the same time. But if Pitkin owns the R179s, why would they be restricted to specific services? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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