SUBWAY - Random Thoughts Topic

[NoHacksJustKhaks]

1 hour ago, Lawrence St said:

The R179’s MBDF went up 100%? I find that extremely hard to believe.

The R179's basically went from being the system's "lemons", one so bad many thought it would be scrapped, to being decently reliable NTT trains. The difference in performance between those two was bound to cause that 100% change. 

[Lawrence St]

1 hour ago, NoHacksJustKhaks said:

The R179's basically went from being the system's "lemons", one so bad many thought it would be scrapped, to being decently reliable NTT trains. The difference in performance between those two was bound to cause that 100% change. 

Yes, but they still have problems. Horrible, horrible craftsman ship.

[Calvin]

The  train going to Main St Local between Queensboro Plaza and 111 St tends to have waiting times that feels long, between 3-5 PM (Express service was in-tact). At that time and direction on a school day, all 11 cars would be crammed that a few would have to wait longer than expected (8-12 minutes estimate). 

Edited March 30, 2022 by Calvin

[trainfan22]

line riders have it rough this weekend... is not running between Canarsie and Broadway Junction and the is not running between Utica and Jay Street this weekend.

 

to Broadway Junction to the is a popular travel pattern from some parts of Brooklyn. 

Edited March 31, 2022 by trainfan22

[CenSin]

11 hours ago, trainfan22 said:

line riders have it rough this weekend... is not running between Canarsie and Broadway Junction and the is not running between Utica and Jay Street this weekend.

 

to Broadway Junction to the is a popular travel pattern from some parts of Brooklyn.

The is luckily not too far from other options where the service is out.

• There is the to Manhattan for those too far from Broadway Junction.
• The is also about 0.7 miles or less from the stations where the service will be out. Not too bad of a walk.
  • For those whose destination is Clinton–Washington Avenues, the runs express and so the walk from Atlantic Avenue–Barclays Center will still be 0.7 miles.
  • For those whose destinations are Manhattan-bound the also covers all of the areas that the rerouted Manhattan-bound trains won’t serve from High Street–Brooklyn Bridge to Chambers Street.

The ones in a touch spot are those out in Canarsie, Starrett City, and Spring Creek.

Edited April 1, 2022 by CenSin

[VIP]

Looks like there’s R160’s on the  and  again 🤩

[Calvin]

28 minutes ago, VIP said:

Looks like there’s R160’s on the  and  again 🤩

By that giggle react, meaning  train. But nice to see it back at Astoria for now. 

[Mtatransit]

Went to the TAB hearing today,

Requested the officer to show up denied, (despite being offered "that right")

"Judge" looked like she was going to pled me guilty the second she turn on the video camera, saying things like "I decide if the police officer shows up or not, or I decided if its a emergency"

Absolutely a waste of time. In fact this whole experience turned me even more sour on TAB and the even as a whole.

100% kangaroo "court"... I am convinced nobody walks out of there with their tickets dismissed

[Calvin]

Lettered line updates for CBTC. 

[R32 3838]

On 3/31/2022 at 7:58 PM, trainfan22 said:

line riders have it rough this weekend... is not running between Canarsie and Broadway Junction and the is not running between Utica and Jay Street this weekend.

 

to Broadway Junction to the is a popular travel pattern from some parts of Brooklyn. 

I will never understand why they do these types of GO's at the same time knowing that people will use the by default. They should have had express shuttle bus service to Myrtle and Wycoff for the and have the go to 96th st.

 

[Vulturious]

39 minutes ago, R32 3838 said:

I will never understand why they do these types of GO's at the same time knowing that people will use the by default. They should have had express shuttle bus service to Myrtle and Wycoff for the and have the go to 96th st.

 

Neither will I, but this is the MTA we're talking about.

[Calvin]

https://pix11.com/news/local-news/hundreds-evacuated-from-no-7-train-after-it-struck-debris-in-east-river-tunnel/?fbclid=IwAR0d4MMaWKopkMVofY3QotO1yJJeUy_HFVTl9uWqI53q_cr9cZhFdeGXAnM

Hundreds evacuated from No. 7 train after it struck debris in East River tunnel | PIX11

 

Another incident on the Flushing  line involving debris. But, around Grand Central underground between 5-9 PM. 

[Calvin]

The train for today. 

[T to Dyre Avenue]

On 3/28/2022 at 9:21 AM, NoHacksJustKhaks said:

The R179's basically went from being the system's "lemons", one so bad many thought it would be scrapped, to being decently reliable NTT trains. The difference in performance between those two was bound to cause that 100% change. 

They’re following faithfully in the footsteps of the R62As and R142s, both of which had many mechanical problems early on, but then became very reliable later.

[Trainmaster5]

Was reading a report that the  is considering cutting the amount of subway service in the rush hours. I also saw that off hour and weekend service may be increased somewhat. This seems to dovetail with the early pandemic days and the business forecasts of more WFH employment coupled with spreading out of the workday. I also see that they are indirectly answering one of the questions that my coworkers and I brought up when we were first heard about CBTC signaling. One of the public benefits was the ability to run trains closer together. Some of us saw that as nothing more than a PR issue and this seems to partially confirm that point to some of us present when the concept was bandied about in-house. No one disputed the need for a signal system upgrade systemwide . The signal problems are painfully clear daily. The theory of running trains closer together was great, on paper, but the general public took it to mean that more trains would be on the road. The  never promised more trains on the road. Even before the pandemic ridership losses. Since the rush hours always had the most service in the past please explain to me the benefits of running fewer trains closer together?  What am I missing ? Carry on.

[Calvin]

https://www.trains.com/trn/news-reviews/news-wire/nyc-transit-prepares-vintage-cars-to-run-for-yankees-season-opener/?fbclid=IwAR2t_qVTKPFnvGaOUcsfHW43A-rEKUmgCgNeLpDf6_OClVb243p2QxDVtN0

Special trains that'll run around this Friday and next. Just in the time of baseball seasons. 

[trainfan22]

57 minutes ago, Calvin said:

https://www.trains.com/trn/news-reviews/news-wire/nyc-transit-prepares-vintage-cars-to-run-for-yankees-season-opener/?fbclid=IwAR2t_qVTKPFnvGaOUcsfHW43A-rEKUmgCgNeLpDf6_OClVb243p2QxDVtN0

Special trains that'll run around this Friday and next. Just in the time of baseball seasons. 

There bringing the Redbirds out for the Mets home opener?!??! Ohhh I'm giddy:) I thought with CBTC Mets home opener vintage train runs were a thing of the past. My favorite subway cars running special runs to take people to see my favorite baseball team.

 

 

Love those Redbirds & Low Vs! 

 

[R32 3838]

3 hours ago, trainfan22 said:

There bringing the Redbirds out for the Mets home opener?!??! Ohhh I'm giddy:) I thought with CBTC Mets home opener vintage train runs were a thing of the past. My favorite subway cars running special runs to take people to see my favorite baseball team.

 

 

Love those Redbirds & Low Vs! 

 

 

They edited the article, The redbird part was edited out so they might have made a mistake. I was hoping to see the TOMC but it seems the corrected them so it's just the low V's.

[Kingsbridgeviewer382]

So, part of the TOMC (The silver painted 9200s and the R36 WF cars) passed by 231st Street on the 1 heading to Manhattan this morning. I don't know why it was there in the first place.

[MHV9218]

On 4/6/2022 at 2:00 AM, Trainmaster5 said:

Was reading a report that the  is considering cutting the amount of subway service in the rush hours. I also saw that off hour and weekend service may be increased somewhat. This seems to dovetail with the early pandemic days and the business forecasts of more WFH employment coupled with spreading out of the workday. I also see that they are indirectly answering one of the questions that my coworkers and I brought up when we were first heard about CBTC signaling. One of the public benefits was the ability to run trains closer together. Some of us saw that as nothing more than a PR issue and this seems to partially confirm that point to some of us present when the concept was bandied about in-house. No one disputed the need for a signal system upgrade systemwide . The signal problems are painfully clear daily. The theory of running trains closer together was great, on paper, but the general public took it to mean that more trains would be on the road. The  never promised more trains on the road. Even before the pandemic ridership losses. Since the rush hours always had the most service in the past please explain to me the benefits of running fewer trains closer together?  What am I missing ? Carry on.

My understanding of this was always that 'trains closer together' was supposed to suggest the optionality of running more trains, should needs demand. Of course, they never really increased the fleet enough or reduced the spare ratio to get to that point, but it seemed to me that was the premise. But to your point, did tph on the L or the 7 meaningfully increase since CBTC beyond the bounds of what was possible before? I don't have the numbers in front of me, but I would assume the answer to that, as you suggest, is no. And as you say, it seems like the peak demands during rush hour are going to be suppressed by a meaningful amount for at least another couple years. I remember the initial consultant estimates that the MTA would only reach 90% of ridership after a few years, and that seems borne out to me. 

[Calvin]

2 hours ago, Kingsbridgeviewer382 said:

So, part of the TOMC (The silver painted 9200s and the R36 WF cars) passed by 231st Street on the 1 heading to Manhattan this morning. I don't know why it was there in the first place.

Might be heading to 207 St or Livonia Yard to prep for the upcoming trip. 

 

The Train of Many Colors will take part this according to NY Transit Musuem. However, it will not run along the Flushing Line "because of on-going work ".  Both the Lov-V's and Train of Many Colors will run to Yankee Stadium from Grand Central-42nd St tomorrow. 

Edited April 7, 2022 by Calvin

[2Av]

Bronx-Queens Line

 

Norwood - 205 St 

Bedford Park Blvd 

Kingsbridge Rd 

Fordham Rd

182-183 Sts

Tremont Av

174-175 Sts

170 St

167 St

161 St - Yankee Stadium

155 St

145 St

135 St - Edgecombe Av

125 St

116 St 

110 St - Frederick Douglass Cir

103 St

96 St

86 St

Museum Of Natural History - Hayden Planetarium

72 St

59 St - Columbus Cir

7 Av - 53 St

5 Av - 53 St

Lexington Av - 53 St

Court Sq

Queens Plaza

36 St

Jackson Heights

Forest Hills - 71 Av

Kew Gardens - Union Tpke (E) (F)

Parsons Blvd (F)
Jamaica - 179 St (F)

 

I got to the emoji limit lol

[Calvin]

The Train of Many Colors is running tomorrow on the Lexington Av line tomorrow. Not next week due to a midday general order that'll happen on the  in Queens. G/O turned things around. Easter holiday also occurs. 

Edited April 8, 2022 by Calvin

[paulrivera]

37 minutes ago, Calvin said:

The Train of Many Colors is running tomorrow on the Lexington Av line tomorrow. Not next week due to a midday general order that'll happen on the  in Queens. G/O turned things around. 

Weird... normally they call those GO's off if there's a baseball game. They call off the GO's on the Jerome end of the all the time if there's an event at Yankee Stadium, including the current ongoing midday GO at Mosholu Parkway.

I guess they deem the events in Queens (both Citi and Tennis Stadiums) don't generate as much ridership as events in Yankee Stadium. I recall last year there was a wrestling event at the tennis stadium and the GO involving a shutdown from QBP to Manhattan still happened as scheduled.

[Wallyhorse]

5 minutes ago, paulrivera said:

Weird... normally they call those GO's off if there's a baseball game. They call off the GO's on the Jerome end of the all the time if there's an event at Yankee Stadium, including the current ongoing midday GO at Mosholu Parkway.

I guess they deem the events in Queens (both Citi and Tennis Stadiums) don't generate as much ridership as events in Yankee Stadium. I recall last year there was a wrestling event at the tennis stadium and the GO involving a shutdown from QBP to Manhattan still happened as scheduled.

I suspect it's actually because next Friday is Good Friday and with lower overall ridership want to get certain things done with an extra day, especially since some personnel may not be available on other days due to Passover that starts next Friday night.