Around the Horn Posted October 22, 2013 Share #9601 Posted October 22, 2013 For those of you interested in student MetroCards see pages 6,7 and 8 of this PDF: http://www.nyccharterschools.org/sites/default/files/resources/CharterSchoolTransportationOverview_0.pdf 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MHV9218 Posted October 22, 2013 Share #9602 Posted October 22, 2013 Some confirmation that the MCIs have largely never been repainted...2709 has a fare sticker for $4.00! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Via Garibaldi 8 Posted October 22, 2013 Share #9603 Posted October 22, 2013 Some confirmation that the MCIs have largely never been repainted...2709 has a fare sticker for $4.00! MCI's aren't repainted for the most part... No need to... 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewFlyer 230 Posted October 22, 2013 Share #9604 Posted October 22, 2013 Some confirmation that the MCIs have largely never been repainted...2709 has a fare sticker for $4.00! I remember when they were $4. Wasn't that when the local buses were $2.00? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tvega961 Posted October 22, 2013 Share #9605 Posted October 22, 2013 MCI's aren't repainted for the most part... No need to... One MCI got repainted couple months ago...3263. Only the back of course. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Via Garibaldi 8 Posted October 22, 2013 Share #9606 Posted October 22, 2013 (edited) One MCI got repainted couple months ago...3263. Only the back of course. Yeah that's usually the case and I can usually tell because the numbering is off. Yonkers Depot hand washes their buses which I think helps keep looking good much longer without any paint jobs needed. Edited October 22, 2013 by Via Garibaldi 8 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MHV9218 Posted October 22, 2013 Share #9607 Posted October 22, 2013 I remember when they were $4. Wasn't that when the local buses were $2.00? They were $4 twice, actually. First in the late 90s when the fare was $1.50, and then with the 2003 increases to $2. In between, express bus fares actually dropped to $3. The earlier MCIs were built around the time that the fare was still $4. MCI's aren't repainted for the most part... No need to... Which is bizarre to me, since they're used just as much as other buses. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Around the Horn Posted October 22, 2013 Share #9608 Posted October 22, 2013 Yeah that's usually the case and I can usually tell because the numbering is off. Yonkers Depot hand washes their buses which I think helps keep looking good much longer without any paint jobs needed. Hand wash!That's news to me... 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Via Garibaldi 8 Posted October 22, 2013 Share #9609 Posted October 22, 2013 Hand wash!That's news to me... Yeah Yonkers I believe is one of the few that do that and they have the best maintenance hands down. My B/O buddy was working in the depot due to a temporary situation and was telling me about what they had him doing, but it's also a small depot so the way that they set things up makes it possible to keep their buses in tip top shape. He also said that they actually clean the inside of the bus, which many depots don't do. You can certainly tell too. Which is bizarre to me, since they're used just as much as other buses. Makes perfect sense... The MCI's are made to take abuse. If they're treated well, those buses can look brand new. Most of Yonkers MCI's look almost brand new and many of them are 7+ years old. Then again, they do get rehabbed around 7-8 years, but still. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MHV9218 Posted October 22, 2013 Share #9610 Posted October 22, 2013 Makes perfect sense... The MCI's are made to take abuse. If they're treated well, those buses can look brand new. Most of Yonkers MCI's look almost brand new and many of them are 7+ years old. Then again, they do get rehabbed around 7-8 years, but still. Lol, first of all, every bus is built to take abuse. Have you noticed why RTSes have been on our streets for roughly thirty fifty years? Secondly, that still doesn't have to do with the paint, which is original on the MCIs and not on any other buses. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fresh Pond Posted October 22, 2013 Share #9611 Posted October 22, 2013 One MCI got repainted couple months ago...3263. Only the back of course. Then you had 2006 which was completely repainted top to bottom 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Via Garibaldi 8 Posted October 22, 2013 Share #9612 Posted October 22, 2013 (edited) Lol, first of all, every bus is built to take abuse. Have you noticed why RTSes have been on our streets for roughly thirty fifty years? Secondly, that still doesn't have to do with the paint, which is original on the MCIs and not on any other buses. Yes, but MCI's are the ultimate beasts. Besides, local buses are much more heavily used than most express buses. Express buses aren't all white and blue like the local buses either save those hideous Prevosts with the knock-off logo. Then you had 2006 which was completely repainted top to bottom That was only due to a rust problem or something and they repainted it as a test. Looked horrible. Not only did they repaint that bus, but they also put in different seats too with those terrible reclining mechanisms similar to what it is used on the current Prevosts. I was glad to see that bus go and hated seeing it in the distance coming to my bus stop. Edited October 22, 2013 by Via Garibaldi 8 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewFlyer 230 Posted October 22, 2013 Share #9613 Posted October 22, 2013 (edited) How come when the fare goes up the express bus fare rises higher than the Local/Limited Buses? The price of the local/ limited goes up every 25 cents which isn't bad but the express bus fare went from $4 to $5.50 and then to $6. Does that have an effect on ridership because some people might want to save a few dollars by taking a Local or limited bus to the subway? Edited October 22, 2013 by College Pt Man 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NYSubwayBuff Posted October 23, 2013 Share #9614 Posted October 23, 2013 Yes, but MCI's are the ultimate beasts. Besides, local buses are much more heavily used than most express buses. Express buses aren't all white and blue like the local buses either save those hideous Prevosts with the knock-off logo. Prevosts are great buses. Ever wonder why greyhound has more than 500 of them? cause it is the best intercity/express bus. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MHV9218 Posted October 23, 2013 Share #9615 Posted October 23, 2013 Wonder when we're gonna get an Orion V on the Bx15 since KB's got part of that run now... 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orion VII 4 Life Posted October 23, 2013 Share #9616 Posted October 23, 2013 Yes, but MCI's are the ultimate beasts. Besides, local buses are much more heavily used than most express buses. Express buses aren't all white and blue like the local buses either save those hideous Prevosts with the knock-off logo. MTA *could* order MCIs without the stainless steel on the bottom. The MCI CNGs in NJ don't have it. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NYCtrainfan01 Posted October 23, 2013 Share #9617 Posted October 23, 2013 Wonder when we're gonna get an Orion V on the Bx15 since KB's got part of that run now... I saw that a lot back when WF had a bunch of Orion V's... Since KB's got the local Bx15, haven't seen anything but D60's/LFSA's/XD60's... What I want to see is an NG on it! 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fresh Pond Posted October 23, 2013 Share #9618 Posted October 23, 2013 Prevosts are great buses. Ever wonder why greyhound has more than 500 of them? cause it is the best intercity/express bus. That bus is best built for over the road shoot down the interstate use. As great as the Prevost is, its not built for NYC stop and go traffic. MCI on the other hand, is like the RTS of over-the-road coaches. It could take a beating and then some, its pretty much built like a tank and can get tossed around like a piece of paper 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grand Concourse Posted October 23, 2013 Share #9619 Posted October 23, 2013 How come when the fare goes up the express bus fare rises higher than the Local/Limited Buses? The price of the local/ limited goes up every 25 cents which isn't bad but the express bus fare went from $4 to $5.50 and then to $6. Does that have an effect on ridership because some people might want to save a few dollars by taking a Local or limited bus to the subway?well express buses should be at least double the local fare given they are one way trips and the bus has to recover the costs somewhere. I dunno if there's a market for reverse direction travel, so those buses are empty on the return trip back or they sit in the manhattan depots till the pm rush. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
E For Erica Posted October 23, 2013 Share #9620 Posted October 23, 2013 (edited) If there were ever a swap I would first send them to either Fresh Pond or Grand Avenue Excatly! Fresh Pond is WAYYY over due for a GOOD bus. Since they keep getting rained on by Next Gens. Edited October 23, 2013 by E For Erica 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grand Concourse Posted October 23, 2013 Share #9621 Posted October 23, 2013 Fresh Pond gets 2nd hand buses or older ones because their routes aren't as demanding as say ENY or FB's are. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
E For Erica Posted October 23, 2013 Share #9622 Posted October 23, 2013 Fresh Pond gets 2nd hand buses or older ones because their routes aren't as demanding as say ENY or FB's are. That's true tho. I don't know too many people that take the B38 or B52 as a pose to people I know that take the B82 or the B46. But still, they have too many Next Gens. That's what I'm saying lol 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Via Garibaldi 8 Posted October 23, 2013 Share #9623 Posted October 23, 2013 (edited) How come when the fare goes up the express bus fare rises higher than the Local/Limited Buses? The price of the local/ limited goes up every 25 cents which isn't bad but the express bus fare went from $4 to $5.50 and then to $6. Does that have an effect on ridership because some people might want to save a few dollars by taking a Local or limited bus to the subway? Because the express bus is a premium fare, just like Metro North and the Long Island Railroad. All three of them are commuter services geared towards those who want a faster commute and more comfort as well, which the subway doesn't offer. That faster commute and comfort costs more. It's just like riding in economy vs first class on an airplane. You pay more but you have a better ride. The hike will be a bit more because the fare is already double or triple the subway in some cases. Here in Riverdale, Metro North went from $7.50 during peak times to $8.25 one way, which is triple the cost of the subway. Off-peak it is $6.25, which is in line with the express bus. Prevosts are great buses. Ever wonder why greyhound has more than 500 of them? cause it is the best intercity/express bus. lol... This is a discussion that has been had several times on this forum. Let's just say that as a daily express bus rider, I prefer MCI's by a mile. MTA *could* order MCIs without the stainless steel on the bottom. The MCI CNGs in NJ don't have it. Yeah, but having the stainless steel on the bottom means less maintenance. All they have to do is clean the bus and keep it up and there's really no need to do repaints in most cases. Edited October 23, 2013 by Via Garibaldi 8 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BreeddekalbL Posted October 23, 2013 Share #9624 Posted October 23, 2013 i'll just post this here, if someone wants to make this into a thread go right ahead, A veteran city bus driver was killed in a horrific car wreck in Brooklyn Tuesday morning, losing control after she collided with a car and drove head-on into an oncoming tractor-trailer, authorities said.Rosa Eubanks, 54, was on her way to work at the Flatbush bus depot in the Flatlands when her green Pontiac Grand Prix struck a Volkswagen at the intersection of Foster Avenue and Ralph Avenue in Canarsie.Cops said her car careened into a tractor trailer that was heading east on Foster Avenue, while the other driver, 22, spun out and slammed his Volkswagen sedan into a lightpole.Eubanks was rushed to Brookdale Hospital but could not be saved.An MTA spokeswoman said that Eubanks was a 19-year veteran. She began working as a driver in December 1993.JP Patafio, a TA surface vice president at the Transit Worker Union, said Eubanks was a beloved mother who was adored by her coworkers who had many good memories of her.“They were shocked and really devastated,” he said. “She was really loved in the depot, absolutely. It’s just horrible, it’s just a tragic death.”The driver of the Volkswagen was also treated at Brookdale Hospital, but listed in stable condition. The tractor-trailer driver was not hurt. http://nypost.com/2013/10/22/woman-dies-after-head-on-crash-with-tractor-trailer/ 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Q67 via Borden Posted October 23, 2013 Share #9625 Posted October 23, 2013 I just saw an OOS Q39 at Fresh Pond Road and Putnam Avenue. It was Orion 7 NG #4408. But just curious to know why was it over there as this is not something I would ever see. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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