petabread Posted June 7, 2013 Share #751 Posted June 7, 2013 When Yonkers turned the mta had 30 brand new mcis waiting, after that every order for buses was based on a capital order. From what I've seen in the last 8 years of mta bus, new buses were ordered based on a capital schedule and "leaders" complained just before the order was delivered, after decisions were made. "Leaders" never influenced the force of purchase of new equipment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Via Garibaldi 8 Posted June 7, 2013 Share #752 Posted June 7, 2013 Money is made available by the Federal government every year for capital purchases. In the case of the MCI's and Orion VII's for MTA Bus, the money was allocated even before the takeover but the city was working behind the scenes on the MTA takeover and held off on buying new equipment. Once MTA Bus was established, the buses began to be ordered but there is obviously a delay between ordering and actual delivery. The MCI's were on their way no matter how often or loudly riders agitated. Yeah but who they get allocated to is a whole different ball game.... That's my point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fresh Pond Posted June 7, 2013 Share #753 Posted June 7, 2013 Yeah but who they get allocated to is a whole different ball game.... That's my point. No it isn't... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Culver Posted June 7, 2013 Share #754 Posted June 7, 2013 Yeah but who they get allocated to is a whole different ball game.... That's my point. Who they get allocated to is who needs money to replace old rolling stock. I feel like there's a handful of people trying to explain this now and it doesn't seem to be working. When Yonkers turned the mta had 30 brand new mcis waiting, after that every order for buses was based on a capital order. From what I've seen in the last 8 years of mta bus, new buses were ordered based on a capital schedule and "leaders" complained just before the order was delivered, after decisions were made. "Leaders" never influenced the force of purchase of new equipment. That's the whole point. NYC politicians are mostly pathetic clowns who always try to pin their name on shit like this. "See, I was the one who got those buses! Elect me again! ME ME ME ME ME!!!" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mtattrain Posted June 7, 2013 Share #755 Posted June 7, 2013 That's the whole point. NYC politicians are mostly pathetic clowns who always try to pin their name on shit like this."See, I was the one who got those buses! Elect me again! ME ME ME ME ME!!!" As we can all see, the aim of politics is not the same as back then... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Via Garibaldi 8 Posted June 7, 2013 Share #756 Posted June 7, 2013 Who they get allocated to is who needs money to replace old rolling stock. I feel like there's a handful of people trying to explain this now and it doesn't seem to be working. That's the whole point. NYC politicians are mostly pathetic clowns who always try to pin their name on shit like this. "See, I was the one who got those buses! Elect me again! ME ME ME ME ME!!!" When Yonkers turned the mta had 30 brand new mcis waiting, after that every order for buses was based on a capital order. From what I've seen in the last 8 years of mta bus, new buses were ordered based on a capital schedule and "leaders" complained just before the order was delivered, after decisions were made. "Leaders" never influenced the force of purchase of new equipment. No it isn't... http://www.nysenate.gov/press-release/senator-golden-calls-mta-purchase-new-buses-brooklyn-express-bus-routes I would like to point out that Senator Golden is the Senate's Representative to the 's Capital Program Review Board and is heavily involved in transportation issues. In short if you think those new Prevosts went to Ulmer Park without any sort of political influence you're sadly mistaken. Politicians work behind the scenes often times to secure funds for capital projects, etc. just as Senator Golden and Vito Fossella secured $8 million dollars for rehabbing the 86th st station in Bay Ridge. Of course they're going to scream to reap the benefits of their hard work. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turbo19 Posted June 8, 2013 Share #757 Posted June 8, 2013 Does anyone give that much of a f**k? Mind that the particular buses in question are 4 to 5 years from retirement in service. As we can all see, the aim of politics is not the same as back then... Dude, the entire f**king MTA is politics. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theaveragejoe Posted June 8, 2013 Share #758 Posted June 8, 2013 Quality of the board keeps going down hill with useless bickering back and forth. No wonder why less and less of the older members come on here less and less or not at all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
N4 Via Merrick Rd Posted June 8, 2013 Share #759 Posted June 8, 2013 Sometimes the is just a joke. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Princelex Posted June 16, 2013 Share #760 Posted June 16, 2013 Question: Is this the month that we will FINALLY find out who wins the 690 40 ft diesel bus order? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Around the Horn Posted June 17, 2013 Share #761 Posted June 17, 2013 Question: Is this the month that we will FINALLY find out who wins the 690 40 ft diesel bus order? You mean when they make the Xcelsior order official?NFI has it in the bag but if I were the MTA id order 50 LFS's for the M66 and M72 to clear 66th transverse... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cait Sith Posted June 17, 2013 Share #762 Posted June 17, 2013 You mean when they make the Xcelsior order official?NFI has it in the bag but if I were the MTA id order 50 LFS's for the M66 and M72 to clear 66th transverse... Lets not bring up any speculation.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turbo19 Posted June 18, 2013 Share #763 Posted June 18, 2013 You mean when they make the Xcelsior order official?NFI has it in the bag but if I were the MTA id order 50 LFS's for the M66 and M72 to clear 66th transverse... LOL, I'm with Cait, but if it were all NFI I agree with that plan of yours. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Culver Posted June 18, 2013 Share #764 Posted June 18, 2013 You mean when they make the Xcelsior order official?NFI has it in the bag but if I were the MTA id order 50 LFS's for the M66 and M72 to clear 66th transverse... There's like two or three number splits they can do on that order. It seems like favor NFI, but as you mentioned, probably good to have one of the splits to get some Novas for those routes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theaveragejoe Posted June 20, 2013 Share #765 Posted June 20, 2013 I can see MTA spliting future orders with New Flyer and Nova for regular transits. MCI and Prevost for express orders. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
East New York Posted June 24, 2013 Share #766 Posted June 24, 2013 Been gone for a minute, but I will be back with the jumpoff....... Follow me on the Grams dante_inferno0206 Give me about 2 weeks to get all my ducks in a row, and I will be back with you guys! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cait Sith Posted June 24, 2013 Share #767 Posted June 24, 2013 Been gone for a minute, but I will be back with the jumpoff....... Follow me on the Grams dante_inferno0206 Give me about 2 weeks to get all my ducks in a row, and I will be back with you guys! Aww snaps. Welcome back bro! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T J Trainman Posted June 24, 2013 Share #768 Posted June 24, 2013 Agreed welcome back!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJ MC Posted June 24, 2013 Share #769 Posted June 24, 2013 Good to see you back ENY. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amtrak7 Posted July 19, 2013 Share #770 Posted July 19, 2013 300 express bus order for NYCT will be awarded to Prevost. (committee meeting materials 07/22) Upcoming contracts: 690 40' diesel NYCT 45 40' diesel MTA Bus 256 artic NYCT 75 artic MTA Bus Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Culver Posted July 19, 2013 Share #771 Posted July 19, 2013 300 express bus order for NYCT will be awarded to Prevost. (committee meeting materials 07/22) Upcoming contracts: 690 40' diesel NYCT 45 40' diesel MTA Bus 256 artic NYCT 75 artic MTA Bus Nice. The Prevosts are definitely a smooth and quick ride. I'd go for a higher seat size, though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orion VII 4 Life Posted July 19, 2013 Share #772 Posted July 19, 2013 300 express bus order for NYCT will be awarded to Prevost. (committee meeting materials 07/22) Upcoming contracts: 690 40' diesel NYCT 45 40' diesel MTA Bus 256 artic NYCT 75 artic MTA Bus Hell yeah! They just gotta make the seats a little higher... As for the 690 bus order, according to Gold_12th on Subchat the 600-90 arrangement is back, with Millennium building the 90 RTS Extreme buses as long as they can prove they have money secured, buses will be delivered on time and will hold up on our streets. The 600 is still a battle between Nova and New Flyer, and it could be all 690 if Millennium can't prove themselves to the TA. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BM5 via Woodhaven Posted July 19, 2013 Share #773 Posted July 19, 2013 300 express bus order for NYCT will be awarded to Prevost. (committee meeting materials 07/22) Upcoming contracts: 690 40' diesel NYCT 45 40' diesel MTA Bus 256 artic NYCT 75 artic MTA Bus *Insert VG8 Prevost rant here* Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Culver Posted July 20, 2013 Share #774 Posted July 20, 2013 Hell yeah! They just gotta make the seats a little higher... As for the 690 bus order, according to Gold_12th on Subchat the 600-90 arrangement is back, with Millennium building the 90 RTS Extreme buses as long as they can prove they have money secured, buses will be delivered on time and will hold up on our streets. The 600 is still a battle between Nova and New Flyer, and it could be all 690 if Millennium can't prove themselves to the TA. They gotta do one of the split arrangements for the 600 for the couple of routes in Manhattan that go through Central Park. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJ MC Posted July 20, 2013 Share #775 Posted July 20, 2013 And here we go. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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