Lawrence St Posted March 29 Share #3726 Posted March 29 7 hours ago, jass said: Someone told me that the Six Flags route wont operate this year? Anyone heard this? They might be mistaken. It’s…confirmed??? On their site 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lawrence St Posted March 29 Share #3727 Posted March 29 https://www.njtransit.com/sixflags it’s confirmed. RIP route 308. You will be missed. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DCTransitFilms Posted March 29 Share #3728 Posted March 29 18 minutes ago, Lawrence St said: https://www.njtransit.com/sixflags it’s confirmed. RIP route 308. You will be missed. the last of the Six Flag routes... 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lawrence St Posted March 29 Share #3729 Posted March 29 3 minutes ago, DCTransitFilms said: the last of the Six Flag routes... It’s one of their most profitable routes though, why cut it?? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RSMG106 Posted March 29 Share #3730 Posted March 29 (edited) Sadly, there is no public transport option to go to Six Flags Great Adventure. Also, there was not due to the fact that it had higher ridership, or that Six Flags made an disagreement with NJ Transit, this is likely budget cuts. Edited March 29 by RSMG106 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B35 via Church Posted March 29 Share #3731 Posted March 29 10 hours ago, RSMG106 said: Sadly, there is no public transport option to go to Six Flags Great Adventure. Also, there was not due to the fact that it had higher ridership, or that Six Flags made an disagreement with NJ Transit, this is likely budget cuts. Possible, but I don't think this was budget cut related at all..... I'm guessing the decision was completely Six Flags related. Now if the #316 & #510 also ends up getting axed for the summer season, then we know what time it is..... 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JAzumah Posted March 29 Share #3732 Posted March 29 2 hours ago, B35 via Church said: Possible, but I don't think this was budget cut related at all..... I'm guessing the decision was completely Six Flags related. Now if the #316 & #510 also ends up getting axed for the summer season, then we know what time it is..... I believe it is credit card fraud related. The only part of my business that I see significant credit card fraud is in the Amusement Park section. I would pay for the bus and park ticket and then get a hit in my merchant account right after the trip is completed. I started manually screening bookings and requiring people to bring ID to the pickup to cut down on it. I tried to have the police intercept one of the frauds at the bus stop, but the cops wanted me to "hold them there" once they arrived instead of waiting right there for them. If NJT has just 5% CC fraud on the 308, that is potentially a six digit number. That would drive the 308 into the red, but NJT wouldn't come out and say what I said because it would be perceived as racist. If NJT wants to give me the buses, I'll make sure they don't have that problem any more. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lawrence St Posted March 30 Share #3733 Posted March 30 16 hours ago, JAzumah said: I believe it is credit card fraud related. The only part of my business that I see significant credit card fraud is in the Amusement Park section. I would pay for the bus and park ticket and then get a hit in my merchant account right after the trip is completed. I started manually screening bookings and requiring people to bring ID to the pickup to cut down on it. I tried to have the police intercept one of the frauds at the bus stop, but the cops wanted me to "hold them there" once they arrived instead of waiting right there for them. If NJT has just 5% CC fraud on the 308, that is potentially a six digit number. That would drive the 308 into the red, but NJT wouldn't come out and say what I said because it would be perceived as racist. If NJT wants to give me the buses, I'll make sure they don't have that problem any more. Why not just use your own? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JAzumah Posted March 30 Share #3734 Posted March 30 4 hours ago, Lawrence St said: Why not just use your own? I am planning to use my own equipment, but I am not happy about the prospect of managing 200-300 people at an on-street bus stop at once. That is the value of the PABT. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
553 Bridgeton Posted March 30 Share #3735 Posted March 30 On 3/28/2024 at 8:42 PM, Lawrence St said: It’s one of their most profitable routes though, why cut it?? I just love the speculation. And you heard it form the source. Six Flags was cut because Six Flags wanted njt to come in the car entrance. Now imagine the amount of traffic the buses have to sit in when they can just continue to go in the back and leave. We need our buses back out for other trips not sitting in an entrance with cars. Six Flags said no, and njt said ok bye. If it’s not broke don’t fix it. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lawrence St Posted March 30 Share #3736 Posted March 30 42 minutes ago, 553 Bridgeton said: I just love the speculation. And you heard it form the source. Six Flags was cut because Six Flags wanted njt to come in the car entrance. Now imagine the amount of traffic the buses have to sit in when they can just continue to go in the back and leave. We need our buses back out for other trips not sitting in an entrance with cars. Six Flags said no, and njt said ok bye. If it’s not broke don’t fix it. I’m curious, did SF pay a subsidy to NJT to run it? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
553 Bridgeton Posted March 30 Share #3737 Posted March 30 5 minutes ago, Lawrence St said: I’m curious, did SF pay a subsidy to NJT to run it? Contractual, the contract was written as such that NJT is to use the employee entrance to speed up the process so they can get buses back to where they need to be. Six Flags broke the contract. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B35 via Church Posted March 31 Share #3738 Posted March 31 10 hours ago, 553 Bridgeton said: Six Flags was cut because Six Flags wanted njt to come in the car entrance. Now imagine the amount of traffic the buses have to sit in when they can just continue to go in the back and leave. We need our buses back out for other trips not sitting in an entrance with cars. Six Flags said no, and njt said ok bye. If it’s not broke don’t fix it. Figured it'd be something as silly as this.... 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
checkmatechamp13 Posted March 31 Share #3739 Posted March 31 Ugh...the southbound #709 was a no-show, and the next (and last) one is over an hour later...some folks in Passaic decided to grab an Uber taxi....talk about money walking for NJT... 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lawrence St Posted March 31 Share #3740 Posted March 31 12 hours ago, 553 Bridgeton said: Contractual, the contract was written as such that NJT is to use the employee entrance to speed up the process so they can get buses back to where they need to be. Six Flags broke the contract. I’m slightly confused, when I did the 308 it was always a tripper and not a straight run? Unless you literally mean they need the bus back at the depot to do another run? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JAzumah Posted March 31 Share #3741 Posted March 31 12 hours ago, 553 Bridgeton said: Contractual, the contract was written as such that NJT is to use the employee entrance to speed up the process so they can get buses back to where they need to be. Six Flags broke the contract. That sounds odd. I could see Six Flags trying to create a security zone where the employee section is more controlled, but they could have mitigated such an issue on both sides. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paulrivera Posted March 31 Share #3742 Posted March 31 On 3/30/2024 at 7:28 AM, JAzumah said: I am planning to use my own equipment, but I am not happy about the prospect of managing 200-300 people at an on-street bus stop at once. That is the value of the PABT. NJT would actually stagger departures between 8:30 and 10 on busier days. I guess you can do that also, once you have 50 people ready to go start sending them out even if it's before 9:30. The return was more hit and miss but they would try to stagger the return trips also if there were enough people waiting for the bus back. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
553 Bridgeton Posted March 31 Share #3743 Posted March 31 (edited) 20 hours ago, Lawrence St said: I’m slightly confused, when I did the 308 it was always a tripper and not a straight run? Unless you literally mean they need the bus back at the depot to do another run? Most of the 308s that Howell had was paired with actual full runs. Most jobs back to nyc did either 137/139/319, Or Newark for the 67. Edited March 31 by 553 Bridgeton 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FlxMtroD Posted April 1 Share #3744 Posted April 1 On 3/30/2024 at 10:02 PM, checkmatechamp13 said: Ugh...the southbound #709 was a no-show, and the next (and last) one is over an hour later...some folks in Passaic decided to grab an Uber taxi....talk about money walking for NJT... That's a trend that's been happening on the #709. For some reason CUSA - Community has been having some no-shows on routes #707 and popular #709. I don't know about the other "Passaic" and "Bergen" county" routes. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mtatransit Posted April 1 Share #3745 Posted April 1 (edited) Those afternoon/evening weekend NEC Line trains are absolutely packed with people Conductor could not even start collecting tickets. Can’t even imagine how much fare revenue NJT is losing when I took the train 5 straight weekend and my ticket was only lifted once! And those arrow III are nice, but I don’t know if they belong on NEC. Way too few capacity Edited April 1 by Mtatransit 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lawrence St Posted April 3 Share #3746 Posted April 3 How come there's no bus service along Momouth Road in Jackson Township? Seems to be a big area full of car-centric riders. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
46Dover Posted April 3 Share #3747 Posted April 3 On 3/30/2024 at 10:04 AM, 553 Bridgeton said: I just love the speculation. And you heard it form the source. Six Flags was cut because Six Flags wanted njt to come in the car entrance. Now imagine the amount of traffic the buses have to sit in when they can just continue to go in the back and leave. We need our buses back out for other trips not sitting in an entrance with cars. Six Flags said no, and njt said ok bye. If it’s not broke don’t fix it. On 3/30/2024 at 8:07 PM, B35 via Church said: Figured it'd be something as silly as this.... This is why we can’t have nice things 🤦♂️ 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lawrence St Posted April 3 Share #3748 Posted April 3 NJT Big Tree garage got a surprise DOT inspection and as a result there are numerous buses out of service and/or delayed. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TyBusLover1 Posted April 3 Share #3749 Posted April 3 3 hours ago, Lawrence St said: NJT Big Tree garage got a surprise DOT inspection and as a result there are numerous buses out of service and/or delayed. I can’t see the image. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
553 Bridgeton Posted April 4 Share #3750 Posted April 4 On 4/3/2024 at 2:06 PM, Lawrence St said: NJT Big Tree garage got a surprise DOT inspection and as a result there are numerous buses out of service and/or delayed. Same thing happened at egg harbor. Njt maintenance is going down bad. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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