MTA to Allow Free Transfers Btwn G & J/M Lines During Greenpoint Tube Closure

[Harry]

 

THE MTA WILL create a rare option for subway riders this summer — a free, above-ground transfer between stations in Williamsburg, Brooklyn, the Daily News has learned. Riders will be able to switch from trains at the Broadway station to or trains at the Lorimer St. station. The freebie, which will require riders to exit the system and walk a few blocks, will be in effect while the Metropolitan Transportation Authority closes the train’s Greenpoint Tube under Newtown Creek for five weeks, starting July 26, to repair damage from Superstorm Sandy.

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[E For Erica]

Interesting. I'm defintley taking advantage of this. I think a lot of other riders should  take advantage too. Because that three-legged transer between the , or & the can be a complicated sometimes. Especailly taking the same way back & waiting for the at Hoyt for years...

[46Dover]

This allows people wanting that Queens Blvd connection to get off at Essex for the

[N6 Limited]

This allows people wanting that Queens Blvd connection to get off at Essex for the

Or they can Transfer directly to the

[46Dover]

Or they can Transfer directly to the

What, is this thing going to be weekdays too?

(Greenpoint closure)

[Lance]

All times. It's a full-time closure for those four weeks.

[j express]

Whats the purpose of this? I dont get it.

[Lance]

The purpose of what, the transfer or the work itself? The addition of the free transfer at Broadway/Lorimer St will provide an alternate link between the G and M, two lines that will lose that connection when the G is truncated to Nassau Av. The work itself is part of the ongoing Fix and Fortify maintenance.

[Union Tpke]

I hope that this will become permanent.

[E For Erica]

This allows people wanting that Queens Blvd connection to get off at Essex for the

They could of done that before...

[ttcsubwayfan]

I hope that this will become permanent.

 

The transfer is free. No way in hell they will keep it once Greenpoint reopens.

[West End]

 

The transfer is free. No way in hell they will keep it once Greenpoint reopens.

 

Who knows what the MTA will do after this.  The push for this walking transfer has been going on for years now, and it helps riders get to some choice stations off of the and the .

[Union Tpke]

The transfer is free. No way in hell they will keep it once Greenpoint reopens.

I know they won't do it but I think they should do this. It gives G riders more options if you don't have an unlimited metrocard and don't want to pay an extra fare.

[NYSubwayBuff]

Idk about from the south but commuters coming from LIC/Greenpoint can just take the 62 /32 to WBP and have a free transfer there

 

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[Snowblock]

Or they can Transfer directly to the

And ride the local? AS IF!

[sovetskii52]

Next needs to be a free transfer between the and the at Junius / Livonia. 

[Union Tpke]

Next needs to be a free transfer between the and the at Junius / Livonia. 

Agreed

[Wallyhorse]

Absolutely.  That transfer to the should have been done YEARS ago!!

[biGC323232]

Absolutely.  That transfer to the should have been done YEARS ago!!

I agree 

[bobtehpanda]

Considering that building new transfers was a significant portion of the last Capital Program, I expect the same to be true of the next one, particularly since Junius/Lavonia in particular is so cheap.

[Trainmaster5]

Absolutely.  That transfer to the should have been done YEARS ago!!

One could look at a subway map and come to that conclusion but the reality is very different. Years ago ( 1965-) no one would attempt that transfer, especially after dark, unless they were ,high, ,packin', or ,5-0. Most NYCT employees in uniform would refuse to travel between the Junius St station and the Livonia station even if their job duties required it. Transit supervisors and the union agreed that it was too dangerous. I personally witnessed Sliwa's Guardian Angels debate whether to leave my and make that transfer to the . Eight Angels said " no way" to that. The problem has always been the "no man's land" bridge over the Bay Ridge Branch tracks that one must navigate between the two stations. There was literally no protection from the elements or the evildoers on that overpass. Maybe if the could come up with an enclosed, staffed, connection that might work. An unstaffed connection, even with cameras, is a waste, IMO. Perhaps things have changed in that area, I'm not sure.The other thing to look at is how many people would utilize that transfer daily, especially am rush hour riders heading toward downtown Brooklyn or lower Manhattan. I'm not sure but it's possible that an rider would be better served by staying on their train to Broadway-ENY for the or depending on the running times. YMMV.  Carry on.

[RollOver]

Yeah, the and are almost empty in the reverse peak direction (as they stop and leave their respective station in the aforementioned area). Most East New York and Brownsville residents transfer to the at Utica (depending on where exactly they're going). Happens everyday. I agree, the transfer between the and at Junius/Livonia would be a waste.

[Fresh Pond]

Yeah, the and are almost empty in the reverse peak direction (as they stop and leave their respective station in the aforementioned area). Most East New York and Brownsville residents transfer to the at Utica (depending on where exactly they're going). Happens everyday. I agree, the transfer between the and at Junius/Livonia would be a waste.

It wouldn't be a waste

[Wallyhorse]

One could look at a subway map and come to that conclusion but the reality is very different. Years ago ( 1965-) no one would attempt that transfer, especially after dark, unless they were ,high, ,packin', or ,5-0. Most NYCT employees in uniform would refuse to travel between the Junius St station and the Livonia station even if their job duties required it. Transit supervisors and the union agreed that it was too dangerous. I personally witnessed Sliwa's Guardian Angels debate whether to leave my and make that transfer to the . Eight Angels said " no way" to that. The problem has always been the "no man's land" bridge over the Bay Ridge Branch tracks that one must navigate between the two stations. There was literally no protection from the elements or the evildoers on that overpass. Maybe if the could come up with an enclosed, staffed, connection that might work. An unstaffed connection, even with cameras, is a waste, IMO. Perhaps things have changed in that area, I'm not sure.The other thing to look at is how many people would utilize that transfer daily, especially am rush hour riders heading toward downtown Brooklyn or lower Manhattan. I'm not sure but it's possible that an rider would be better served by staying on their train to Broadway-ENY for the or depending on the running times. YMMV.  Carry on.

I used to travel through that area every day back in 1983-'84 on the way to Canarsie, and I remember how bad that area was then.  That said, with even that area beginning to gentrify some, it may be time to revisit this.

[Fresh Pond]

I used to travel through that area every day back in 1983-'84 on the way to Canarsie, and I remember how bad that area was then. That said, with even that area beginning to gentrify some, it may be time to revisit this.

I dont know what area you think this now, but its nowhere near gentrification...