Bus Guy Posted January 16, 2011 Share #276 Posted January 16, 2011 Curious: Is there such a thing as an XC40 (an Xcelsior CNG)? Work in progress....give it 2 years or so. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
East New York Posted January 16, 2011 Author Share #277 Posted January 16, 2011 Curious: Is there such a thing as an XC40 (an Xcelsior CNG)? Work in progress....give it 2 years or so. That is mostly correct, although they already have a prototype from what I understand, and it should be out much sooner than 2 years. I can find out for sure Monday, but I do know for a fact that New Flyer was awarded a contract already for an order of 14 CNG-powered 60 foot Artic Xcelsiors (XC60's) from Omnitrans. It's interesting that you bring this up Adam, because I was going to make a post on this tomorrow! I may as well do it now!:cool: Check it out here! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Princelex Posted January 16, 2011 Share #278 Posted January 16, 2011 Rumor has it, the TA is seriously considering a change to the pending New Flyer purchase order. Since we already have C40LFR's coming in, the TA may now want to test 90 XD40's instead of 90 D40LFR's. The Xcelsior has been getting rave reviews so far, and it is said to be the reason for the possible change! This just gets better every day! Go !!! :cool: My God, this is just amazing! Based on what I've seen and heard about the Xcelsior, the would be on some drugs if they don't get this type of bus. I hope they change their mind and go with this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Princelex Posted January 16, 2011 Share #279 Posted January 16, 2011 That is mostly correct, although they already have a prototype from what I understand, and it should be out much sooner than 2 years. I can find out for sure Monday, but I do know for a fact that New Flyer was awarded a contract already for an order of 14 CNG-powered 60 foot Artic Xcelsiors (XC60's) from Omnitrans. It's interesting that you bring this up Adam, because I was going to make a post on this tomorrow! I may as well do it now!:cool: Check it out here! Hold up, so we're going to get these buses here in NY? If so, WOW!!!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
East New York Posted January 16, 2011 Author Share #280 Posted January 16, 2011 Hold up, so we're going to get these buses here in NY? If so, WOW!!!!!! As far as I know nothing is final, but I would be willing to bet the farm we end up with Xcelsior diesels now. At least I hope and pray we do! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Princelex Posted January 16, 2011 Share #281 Posted January 16, 2011 That is mostly correct, although they already have a prototype from what I understand, and it should be out much sooner than 2 years. I can find out for sure Monday, but I do know for a fact that New Flyer was awarded a contract already for an order of 14 CNG-powered 60 foot Artic Xcelsiors (XC60's) from Omnitrans. It's interesting that you bring this up Adam, because I was going to make a post on this tomorrow! I may as well do it now!:cool: Check it out here! As far as I know nothing is final, but I would be willing to bet the farm we end up with Xcelsiors now. That would just be bananas! I hope this happens. They sound like excellent buses. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MTV Operator Posted January 18, 2011 Share #282 Posted January 18, 2011 Any news on fresh pond receiveing new buses.I know a few rts buses are being piled from service next month. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
East New York Posted January 18, 2011 Author Share #283 Posted January 18, 2011 Any news on fresh pond receiveing new buses.I know a few rts buses are being piled from service next month. Yes. Fresh Pond is on the list to receive new test buses along With Ulmer Park & Queens Village. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
East New York Posted January 21, 2011 Author Share #284 Posted January 21, 2011 The Next 3 contracts have been delayed, and are officially behind schedule at this time. The New Flyer contract is no surprise as the TA has been said to be talking about changing the model after the Xcelsior demo was delivered. As far as Orion, there is no reason why there contract won't be awarded next week unless the TA just wants to issue them all together. I should know more soon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Princelex Posted January 21, 2011 Share #285 Posted January 21, 2011 As exciting as it is to see the Xcelsior model do so well here in NYC, I wanna see the D40LFR's come to NYC too. I really like the look of them and if they are the same buses as the ones in Philly, then I will really love them here. We should get both the D40LFR's AND the Xcelsior models. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
East New York Posted January 22, 2011 Author Share #286 Posted January 22, 2011 I will be briefed on what's going on this afternoon, and I should have a full update on the 25th. As exciting as it is to see the Xcelsior model do so well here in NYC, I wanna see the D40LFR's come to NYC too. I really like the look of them and if they are the same buses as the ones in Philly, then I will really love them here. We should get both the D40LFR's AND the Xcelsior models. What I would love, but won't happen...... 50 D40LFR 20 XD40 20 XDE40 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Novasupporter Posted January 22, 2011 Share #287 Posted January 22, 2011 Just cancel the orders with Orion and New Flyer and award them to Nova. By the time Orion or New Flyer start production, Nova will have delivered all 90 of their buses. First ones should be coming off the production line next week. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
East New York Posted January 22, 2011 Author Share #288 Posted January 22, 2011 Just cancel the orders with Orion and New Flyer and award them to Nova. By the time Orion or New Flyer start production, Nova will have delivered all 90 of their buses. First ones should be coming off the production line next week. Thats definitely not going to happen. This is a test of all three manufactures products and ability to deliver a solid product. It's too soon to have a Nova dominated fleet. Besides, they will have to win fair and square if they want the next contact. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
East New York Posted January 22, 2011 Author Share #289 Posted January 22, 2011 Ok, I was just briefed on the new orders. The TA made some last minute changes to the contracts, and resubmitted them for NF and Orion staffers to review, and turn in Tuesday. The program is now 30 days behind schedule, and the Novas will be arriving in short order. Orion has already begun engineering tasks for the order, as well as set a production schedule for all 90 buses. They plan to begin building the order as soon as the contract is in hand, and hold to the original delivery schedule. They said the 30 day delay will not be a major issue for them at all, and they want to get the buses built as fast as possible. New Flyer is said to be trying to crunch some numbers to see about delivering XD40's in lieu of D40LFR's. Whatever the final decision is, the buses will vary heavily with all kinds of different specs, options, and configurations. All of the details unclear, but the TA will definitely continue with the 75 Allison powered, and 15 ZF powered buses for each fleet. Lighting, seating, electrical, and brake options will vary. Orion just completed further Altoona testing on the 3G, and the bus has performed better than any other Orion in recent history. The bus had to undergo 7 unscheduled maintenance tasks. One of which was in dispute because it was only a warn down tire. Buses typically have between 22-24 unscheduled maintenance tasks when testing. It's going to be a tight race between New Flyer, Nova, and Orion. MTA is now set to approve the contracts later on this week, or next. In other news, I am being told the FTA will fund the purchase of up to 83 New CNG powered buses. I'm being told this order will be put out to bid, which will give Orion a chance to supply the TA with 3G CNG's. I will have more on this next week as well. Stay tuned! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tlcohen Posted January 22, 2011 Share #290 Posted January 22, 2011 Once again, you've hit a homerun with this update! I'm hoping for the XD40's - this would give NYC buses incredible variety! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T J Trainman Posted January 22, 2011 Share #291 Posted January 22, 2011 ????? Huh what is going Im confused here. Are these all diesels? or Hybrids?:confused: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cait Sith Posted January 22, 2011 Share #292 Posted January 22, 2011 ????? Huh what is going Im confused here. Are these all diesels? or Hybrids?:confused: If you can tell by the transmission specs listed, Diesel.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Novasupporter Posted January 23, 2011 Share #293 Posted January 23, 2011 Thats definitely not going to happen. This is a test of all three manufactures products and ability to deliver a solid product. It's too soon to have a Nova dominated fleet. Besides, they will have to win fair and square if they want the next contact. I know it is a test, but a guy can dream cant he. Nova will provide a quality product that far beats the competition. I have heard the Artics are almost 25% more fuel efficient than the others being operated in NYC. Their prices may be higher, but the product is worth every penny. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
East New York Posted January 23, 2011 Author Share #294 Posted January 23, 2011 I know it is a test, but a guy can dream cant he. Nova will provide a quality product that far beats the competition. I have heard the Artics are almost 25% more fuel efficient than the others being operated in NYC. Their prices may be higher, but the product is worth every penny. True! I love the LFS Artics. And yes, I would hope they would be much more fuel efficient than the D60HF's. They are performing great, so it's no secret they will end up with the next artic order. I'm quite sure the TA will play with the specs on that order as well. I am very excited to see how all of these buses will match up to each other. I also love the fact that all the orders will have 2 transmission options. That makes things much more interesting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Novasupporter Posted January 23, 2011 Share #295 Posted January 23, 2011 Are the D60HF's very old? Nova's 90 was broken down into three groupings. 1 for each transmission and then the third for their electric cooling package. It will be interesting to see how this testing plays out. I can't remember, how long will the testing be for? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LRG Posted January 23, 2011 Share #296 Posted January 23, 2011 Are the D60HF's very old? The oldest D60HFs in service are the 1997 models. The youngest are the 2002/2003 models. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Princelex Posted January 23, 2011 Share #297 Posted January 23, 2011 This gets exciting more and more with each update! I am looking forward to Orion and NF and Nova dropping these beauties on our door steps!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MHV9218 Posted January 23, 2011 Share #298 Posted January 23, 2011 Please, watch the Nazi Banksters Crimes Ripple Effect at http://jforjustice.co.uk/banksters Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nycbusfan Posted January 23, 2011 Share #299 Posted January 23, 2011 Not to stray away from the upcoming orders, but where in the world are 0056 and 0057? Weren't we supposed to receive those as Xcelsior test buses? And where did 0058 go anyway? Last I heard it left UP. I keep hearing conflicting reports about 0058 so we'll just have to see what happens. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T J Trainman Posted January 24, 2011 Share #300 Posted January 24, 2011 Does any one know which depots all of these test buses will go to? I guess these are all for NYCT? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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