RollOver Posted August 20, 2013 Share #3826 Posted August 20, 2013 (edited) Three months ago, Art Vandelay clearly explain why the can't be increased per this post: http://www.nyctransitforums.com/forums/topic/34507-second-avenue-subway-construction-discussion/?p=676394 So did AndrewJC many times. Southbound trains are packed leaving Astoria and then empty off through Broadway while being relatively empty to the rest of the way through 4th Avenue and Sea Beach. Northbound trains are packed when leaving 59th Street-4th Avenue or 36th Street-4th Avenue and empty out through Broadway. I was at first in favor of more service on that line so the would not have to be backed up as much through the 60th Street tube and Broadway line. At first, I didn't clearly understand what they were trying to point out. But I can finally now see their point about why the should be brought back once the is rerouted up SAS - is that areas like Midtown Manhattan, Lower Manhattan and Downtown Brooklyn are one of New York city's central business district where many subway riders attend to during the rush hour times. And not every frequencies in both directions match, since the Bronx, Staten Island, Brooklyn and Queens are the outer boroughs. Presently, all three Broadway services from Brooklyn into Manhattan and Queens run at 6 minute headways during the AM Rush and reverse goes true for southbound in the PM Rush. That said, we're just going to have to put up with the issues the has now in the further future (including the more or less delays at Prince and 34th)...I still wish for the best in the future in the subway though... Edited August 20, 2013 by RollOverMyHead 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
j express Posted August 20, 2013 Share #3827 Posted August 20, 2013 This is proof that jamaica R160's are on the . 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R32 3838 Posted August 20, 2013 Share #3828 Posted August 20, 2013 All I gotta say is when they got rid of the they screwed up Broadway, the helped out a lot and everything ran smoothly, there's more than enough equipment to bring it back as in going to Whitehall, all of the trains that were on the went to the (N)/(Q) for added service 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grand Concourse Posted August 20, 2013 Share #3829 Posted August 20, 2013 When people say cutting the W saved 10 trains, does that factor in the extra trains the Q needs to be extended to Queens? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Union Tpke Posted August 21, 2013 Share #3830 Posted August 21, 2013 Two things; On R46 trains it says via 60 St but on R160s it says via 59 st. Why is this? Also, the stops at 49 st when going to Astoria is this because of high ridership, instead they can switch to the local after 49 st or even after 57 st. I'm really happy because today I got the NYC track map book! Sent from my iPod touch using Tapatalk 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orion VII 4 Life Posted August 21, 2013 Share #3831 Posted August 21, 2013 More Jamaica 160 sets on the ... 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SevenEleven Posted August 21, 2013 Share #3832 Posted August 21, 2013 Also, the stops at 49 st when going to Astoria is this because of high ridership, instead they can switch to the local after 49 st or even after 57 st. Sent from my iPod touch using Tapatalk From what I understand, this is so that customers at 49th Street can take either train to Astoria, instead of waiting for just the , 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R32 3838 Posted August 21, 2013 Share #3833 Posted August 21, 2013 The reasoning for Jamaica's R160s being on CI lines besides the being on the southern part of the is also because they're doing major work on CI's R160s I saw a pic of an 8700 on lifts, looks like its getting an SMS 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kingsbridgeviewer382 Posted August 21, 2013 Share #3834 Posted August 21, 2013 Another 5-car set of R62A's are sitting at Westchester yard as of this morning. Its been coupled with the spare set that was sitting all the way at the back of the yard. The other two sets were running at the time. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brighton Express Posted August 21, 2013 Share #3835 Posted August 21, 2013 So apparently I heard the Lefferts Blvd bound is going to be skipping 104 St and 111 St. Is it just a rumor or is it actually happening? The should be made express again (but at all times) and have the as the only local since there isn' t demand for two locals on Broadway. I agree with this completely. Express during rush hour just to help out the . 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RollOver Posted August 21, 2013 Share #3836 Posted August 21, 2013 I can't remember this but the point of the going to Flatbush was to alleviate crowding conditions at Franklin Avenue (where Nostrand riders had to wait longer for the if something up or down the road delayed it) and not delay the at Bowling Green, right? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GreatOne2k Posted August 21, 2013 Share #3837 Posted August 21, 2013 Some trains already run N/B express during the AM to 57 St 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Lance Posted August 21, 2013 Share #3838 Posted August 21, 2013 So apparently I heard the Lefferts Blvd bound is going to be skipping 104 St and 111 St. Is it just a rumor or is it actually happening? I agree with this completely. Express during rush hour just to help out the . Yeah, the A is bypassing 104th and 111th Sts due to a G.O. It's only in place during midday hours for the rest of the week. As for the N - Broadway Express, the R cannot handle the local stations on its own. Even more so with the northern R running to Whitehall St only. Sending the N express will overcrowd the R as well as the platforms at the express stations. All that for a negligible gain of maybe a couple of minutes saved is not worth it. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
realizm Posted August 21, 2013 Share #3839 Posted August 21, 2013 (edited) So apparently I heard the Lefferts Blvd bound is going to be skipping 104 St and 111 St. Is it just a rumor or is it actually happening? I agree with this completely. Express during rush hour just to help out the . What would be better was what the scedules and patters were before the cut. Two B'Way locals and two B'Way expresses. Which means the needs to be reactivated. That will relieve congestion on the in Manhattan in the long run. Many people who live in SoHo or wishiong to get to South Ferry will benefit from the added service to supplement the , while those who commute on the will not have to deal with crush-loaded cars like it is currently. Basically pre-2010 BMT Broadway service. After the Montague St tube repairs are completed. We know this must happen after the SAS is open for business but can ppl really wait that long? 14th Street Union Square is horrifically crowded on the BMT because of a lack of a second local service. Edited August 21, 2013 by realizm 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RollOver Posted August 22, 2013 Share #3840 Posted August 22, 2013 (edited) What would be better was what the scedules and patters were before the cut. Two B'Way locals and two B'Way expresses. Which means the needs to be reactivated. That will relieve congestion on the in Manhattan in the long run. Many people who live in SoHo or wishiong to get to South Ferry will benefit from the added service to supplement the , while those who commute on the will not have to deal with crush-loaded cars like it is currently. Basically pre-2010 BMT Broadway service. After the Montague St tube repairs are completed. We know this must happen after the SAS is open for business but can ppl really wait that long? 14th Street Union Square is horrifically crowded on the BMT because of a lack of a second local service. Yeah, southbound and trains leave Astoria full but empty off through Broadway and its comfortable to the rest of the way through 4th Avenue/Sea Beach and Brighton (AM Rush Hour). The would still cause delays at 34th (if it meets the there, meaning the gets backed up too....) but the logic in running those short turn trains saves money. Even if they did ran more southbound service through Sea Beach or Brighton, trains would still be empty without a doubt. I mean we are talking about how logical the is and how many subway riders get off at the CBD areas during the rush hour in this city. Edited August 22, 2013 by RollOverMyHead 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R62AR33 Posted August 22, 2013 Share #3841 Posted August 22, 2013 I have waited up to 15-20 for mins for the to arrive , it is clear that the can't handle Manhattan and Queens by itself and that the needs to come back, besides aren't there enough R68 and R160s to reactivate the if ever needed to. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewFlyer 230 Posted August 22, 2013 Share #3842 Posted August 22, 2013 Does the and the still run R68/R68A's? I thought they still ran about 5-6 sets 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
j express Posted August 22, 2013 Share #3843 Posted August 22, 2013 The run entirely R160's. A R68/A could pop up on if there is an R160 shortage. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RollOver Posted August 22, 2013 Share #3844 Posted August 22, 2013 (edited) I wish all 660 R160B Kawaski cars had the Siemens propulsion system instead of just half of them. It would be cool if the entire fleet were those instead and prehaps any leftover for the and . I love the Siemens motors. Edited August 22, 2013 by RollOverMyHead 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Culver Posted August 22, 2013 Share #3845 Posted August 22, 2013 I wish all 660 R160B Kawaski cars had the Siemens propulsion system instead of just half of them. It would be cool if the entire fleet were those instead and prehaps any leftover for the and . I love the Siemens motors. They all have a shitload of flatspots. Hate the Siemens sets. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R32 3838 Posted August 23, 2013 Share #3846 Posted August 23, 2013 I wish all 660 R160B Kawaski cars had the Siemens propulsion system instead of just half of them. It would be cool if the entire fleet were those instead and prehaps any leftover for the and . I love the Siemens motors.9802-9942 were supposed to have siemens, but they changed it since all of these cars went to Jamaica, rumor has it that these were gonna go to the but it never happened 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jamaica Line Posted August 23, 2013 Share #3847 Posted August 23, 2013 So the other day I came upon an R160 with only one of its headlights working... And as I board the train, the HVACs were bringing out heat, not cool air... It didn't help being that that night was already humid as hell... 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GojiMet86 Posted August 23, 2013 Share #3848 Posted August 23, 2013 There's an R68A on the Broadway line heading to CI. Left Ditmars about 20 minutes ago. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BM5 via Woodhaven Posted August 23, 2013 Share #3849 Posted August 23, 2013 There's an R68A on the Broadway line heading to CI. Left Ditmars about 20 minutes ago. Yeah I saw it too lol. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
j express Posted August 23, 2013 Share #3850 Posted August 23, 2013 Yeah I saw it too lol. Is that an or ? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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