LTA1992 Posted October 19, 2016 Share #2626 Posted October 19, 2016 Well the week before they are going to run trains (OUT OF SERVICE) from 57th St to 96th St, reverse, then go into service at 57th St.Completely irrelevant to the inquiry. Those aren't passenger carrying trains and are therefore not the official "First Train". Sent from my N9132 using Tapatalk 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
junion Posted October 19, 2016 Share #2627 Posted October 19, 2016 It looks like they just put up a new sign. PHOTOS: MTA Installing New W Train Signs in Chelsea Yes, the W train is really happening, and we have the photos to prove it. By Mark Osborne (Patch Staff) - October 17, 2016 12:08 pm ET ShareTweetGoogle PlusRedditEmailComments CHELSEA, NY — There's no going back on the W train now. The MTA was out bright and early on Monday morning installing signs for the upcoming re-debut of the W train. Patch caught MTA workers installing the signs at the 28th Street station just before 10 a.m. on Monday. The W train is not officially scheduled to return until Nov. 7. In the meantime, tourists will probably be very confused as to why there are N trains coming and not W trains. full article http://patch.com/new-york/chelsea-ny/photos-mta-installing-new-w-train-signs-chelsea 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CenSin Posted October 19, 2016 Author Share #2628 Posted October 19, 2016 Is anyone planning to take the first train onto Second Avenue on the opening date? Does anyone know if the first operating on SAS (revenue service) is going to depart from Lex-63rd, or is is going to depart down from 96th St? This is like going to a blog or article’s comments section and posting “first!” I’ll wait for the crowds to disperse on opening day. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fresh Pond Posted October 19, 2016 Share #2629 Posted October 19, 2016 (edited) Are you trying to imply something...? I definitely am... This is like going to a blog or article’s comments section and posting “first!” I’ll wait for the crowds to disperse on opening day. I'll be there in the middle of the night after it opens. You know, when the kids are sleep and whatnot lol Edited October 19, 2016 by Turtle 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Union Tpke Posted October 19, 2016 Share #2630 Posted October 19, 2016 To be fair, I actually didn't know the Atlantic Avenue Tunnel existed, so I appreciate him bringing it up. If the SAS is ever extended to Brooklyn, maybe it could be used, once brought up to code, to connect to the lower level of the Culver Line? It's just a thought. If the tunnel is about to cave in or something like that, then of course it wouldn't be done. I don't think that the tunnel would cave in. It connects to the Atlantic Branch of the LIRR, and to reach the Culver Line you would have to totally rebuild the whole Atlantic Avenue station. It would cost billions of dollars. A new connection to the Culver Line is not needed. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trainmaster5 Posted October 20, 2016 Share #2631 Posted October 20, 2016 I don't think that the tunnel would cave in. It connects to the Atlantic Branch of the LIRR, and to reach the Culver Line you would have to totally rebuild the whole Atlantic Avenue station. It would cost billions of dollars. A new connection to the Culver Line is not needed. The tunnel does not connect to the LIRR Atlantic Branch today. IIRC it's just an isolated tunnel segment under a short section of Atlantic Avenue around Court St. I remember a gentleman named Bob Diamond used to give tours of the tunnel for a while but the city stopped them because of "safety concerns". Today's IRT/BMT complex at Atlantic Avenue-Barclay's preclude any attempt to connect with the tunnel today. Carry on. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IAlam Posted October 20, 2016 Share #2632 Posted October 20, 2016 Going back to this, they should really write night and weekend service on the bottom on the signs. At night it's the and that stops there. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BDNQ2345 Posted October 20, 2016 Share #2633 Posted October 20, 2016 (edited) I saw a new map on the and line today. Edited October 20, 2016 by BDNQ2345 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Porter Posted October 20, 2016 Share #2634 Posted October 20, 2016 (edited) They're popping up everywhere. Edited October 20, 2016 by Skipper 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
P3F Posted October 20, 2016 Share #2635 Posted October 20, 2016 I don't think that the tunnel would cave in. It connects to the Atlantic Branch of the LIRR, and to reach the Culver Line you would have to totally rebuild the whole Atlantic Avenue station. It would cost billions of dollars. A new connection to the Culver Line is not needed. Google Maps happens to show otherwise: 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
West End Posted October 20, 2016 Share #2636 Posted October 20, 2016 I saw a new map on the and line today. These notices are also popping up along the Broadway Line: 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
P3F Posted October 20, 2016 Share #2637 Posted October 20, 2016 These notices are also popping up along the Broadway Line: November 7. Wow, that's coming up a lot sooner than I thought. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CenSin Posted October 20, 2016 Author Share #2638 Posted October 20, 2016 Google Maps happens to show otherwise: That tunnel would have to dip quite a bit to make the curve and the connection though, no? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LTA1992 Posted October 20, 2016 Share #2639 Posted October 20, 2016 (edited) That tunnel would have to dip quite a bit to make the curve and the connection though, no?Truth be told, an under river tunnel coming from there would be too deep to use that tunnel. However, how F trains currently get to the lower level and the need for reconstruction of both those ramps and maybe even moving the station slightly north, I'd rather just leave things as they are. Sent from my N9132 using Tapatalk Edited October 20, 2016 by LTA1992 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CTK246 Posted October 20, 2016 Share #2640 Posted October 20, 2016 These notices are also popping up along the Broadway Line: I had no idea about the extension. Is this permanent? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Union Tpke Posted October 20, 2016 Share #2641 Posted October 20, 2016 I had no idea about the extension. Is this permanent? Yes. http://www.mta.info/news-r-r-train-r-shuttle-subway-new-york-city-transit/2016/06/16/change-allows-more-transfers-faster 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
richardye1 Posted October 20, 2016 Share #2642 Posted October 20, 2016 anyone planning to ride the first train (W train party) this yr? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Far rockaway Posted October 21, 2016 Share #2643 Posted October 21, 2016 (edited) how is the first few trains of the W going to terminate at 86th's street IN Brooklyn since it is being renovated! The MTA should just have the first few trains of the W terminate at Coney island-stillwell ave. Edited October 21, 2016 by Far rockaway 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Around the Horn Posted October 21, 2016 Share #2644 Posted October 21, 2016 how is the first few trains of the W going to terminate at 86th's street IN Brooklyn since it is being renovated! The MTA should just have the first few trains of the W terminate at Coney island-stillwell ave. Good point. I think they'll just drop out at Kings Hwy southbound and start at Bay Parkway northbound. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CTK246 Posted October 21, 2016 Share #2645 Posted October 21, 2016 Very insignificant thought, but I wonder how they'll address the re-addition of the on the and programs. Seen in the video below, there was a dedicated transfer announcement at Union Sq. So I wonder if they'll bring that back, or just edit in the letter 'W' in the current Charlie Pellett transfer announcement. https://youtu.be/zO_gv5Zoib8?t=2m28s 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
West End Posted October 21, 2016 Share #2646 Posted October 21, 2016 anyone planning to ride the first train (W train party) this yr? I'm up for it if others are (especially if you're talking about the first leaving Ditmars). Very insignificant thought, but I wonder how they'll address the re-addition of the on the and programs. Seen in the video below, there was a dedicated transfer announcement at Union Sq. So I wonder if they'll bring that back, or just edit in the letter 'W' in the current Charlie Pellett transfer announcement. https://youtu.be/zO_gv5Zoib8?t=2m28s I guess we'll have to see. They had Charlie Pellett replace the pre-2010 train weekday announcement for Union Square after the was eliminated, even though it was identical to the train weekend announcement. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zachary Transit Posted October 21, 2016 Share #2647 Posted October 21, 2016 I probably won't make it to see the first when it returns, although i may go on the first day(hopefully in the afternoon) 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Porter Posted October 21, 2016 Share #2648 Posted October 21, 2016 So with all these bullets popping up 2~3 weeks prior to relaunch, how is the ensuring that tourists don't get confused? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rbrome Posted October 21, 2016 Share #2649 Posted October 21, 2016 So with all these bullets popping up 2~3 weeks prior to relaunch, how is the ensuring that tourists don't get confused? This does seem like extremely poor planning. Surely it wouldn't be difficult to install the new permanent signage, but at the same time cover it with temporary signs that reflect current service. Then on launch day, station personnel could just take down the temporary signs. Why aren't they doing something like that? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Around the Horn Posted October 21, 2016 Share #2650 Posted October 21, 2016 This does seem like extremely poor planning. Surely it wouldn't be difficult to install the new permanent signage, but at the same time cover it with temporary signs that reflect current service. Then on launch day, station personnel could just take down the temporary signs. Why aren't they doing something like that? Most of these signs were never removed in 2010 and simply had the old stickers covering them removed. The only new signs I've seen are at the entrances to 23rd, 28th and 49th. All of the (currently) correct service signs in stations are still up. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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