mfs NJT459 Posted December 11, 2012 Share #3851 Posted December 11, 2012 Government officials installing audio surveillance systems on public buses The era of private conversations on city buses — and even on San Francisco’s iconic streetcars — may be coming to an end. Government officials are quietly installing sophisticated audio surveillance systems on public buses across the country to eavesdrop on passengers, according to documents obtained by The Daily. Plans to implement the technology are under way in cities from San Francisco to Hartford, Conn., and Eugene, Ore., to Columbus, Ohio. Linked to video cameras already in wide use, the microphones will offer a formidable new tool for security and law enforcement. With the new systems, experts say, transit officials can effectively send an invisible police officer to transcribe the individual conversations of every passenger riding on a public bus. But the deployment of the technology on buses raises urgent questions about the boundaries of legally protected privacy in public spaces, experts say, as transit officials — and perhaps law enforcement agencies given access to the systems — seem positioned to monitor audio communications without search warrants or court supervision. “This is very shocking,” said Anita Allen, a privacy law expert at the University of Pennsylvania. “It’s a little beyond what we’re accustomed to. The adding of the audio seems more sensitive.” In San Francisco, for example, transit officials recently approved a $5.9 million contract to install a new audio-enabled surveillance system on 357 buses and trolley cars over four years, with an option for 613 more vehicles. The contract, signed in July, specifies both modern buses and historic trolley cars. http://redalertpolitics.com/2012/12/11/government-officials-installing-audio-surveillance-systems-on-public-buses/ 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BreeddekalbL Posted December 12, 2012 Share #3852 Posted December 12, 2012 Go for it...if it gets locked, then you know you did something wrong lol i found the thread in the archives.. so i'll revive the post. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cait Sith Posted December 12, 2012 Share #3853 Posted December 12, 2012 cause this is MTA That doesn't really mean anything, Gleason IS short of buses last I checked...doubt they'd get rid of any. IF they do get rid of any, it'll be the recent batch they recently got back from West Farms. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BM5 via Woodhaven Posted December 12, 2012 Share #3854 Posted December 12, 2012 Still see O5s and C40s on the Q52 and Q11. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
XcelsiorBoii4888 Posted December 12, 2012 Share #3855 Posted December 12, 2012 That doesn't really mean anything, Gleason IS short of buses last I checked...doubt they'd get rid of any. IF they do get rid of any, it'll be the recent batch they recently got back from West Farms. yeah thats what im talking bout 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest MTA Bus Posted December 12, 2012 Share #3856 Posted December 12, 2012 Still see O5s and C40s on the Q52 and Q11. That's going to be there for the next few weeks. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cait Sith Posted December 12, 2012 Share #3857 Posted December 12, 2012 Still see O5s and C40s on the Q52 and Q11. Gonna be seeing them for a while, considering MTA boosted service on the Q52. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
checkmatechamp13 Posted December 12, 2012 Share #3858 Posted December 12, 2012 I got off 3G #4880 on the S46 a little while ago, and the cord was broken. GIJoe would not be pleased. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
XcelsiorBoii4888 Posted December 12, 2012 Share #3859 Posted December 12, 2012 I got off 3G #4880 on the S46 a little while ago, and the cord was broken. GIJoe would not be pleased. lmfaoo XD40 4880 yeahh i rode it on the S53 yesterday.....the shitt all hanging on the left side...nasty! > 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cait Sith Posted December 12, 2012 Share #3860 Posted December 12, 2012 I got off 3G #4880 on the S46 a little while ago, and the cord was broken. GIJoe would not be pleased. He wont be pleased by what you just said! LOL! 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
XcelsiorBoii4888 Posted December 12, 2012 Share #3861 Posted December 12, 2012 He wont be pleased by what you just said! LOL! exactly lmaoo! how dAre you call my XD40 a 3G 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orion VII 4 Life Posted December 12, 2012 Share #3862 Posted December 12, 2012 (edited) Still see O5s and C40s on the Q52 and Q11. FR is still closed, their buses are still at JFK and SC so you'll see JFK and SC buses on the 52 and other FR routes until FR reopens or maybe even longer if they still need extra service. Edited December 12, 2012 by Orion VII 4 Life 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grand Concourse Posted December 12, 2012 Share #3863 Posted December 12, 2012 5172, has a weird whirring sound when it accelerates. Not sure if it's some new engine or maybe something's not working. Just sounded very odd. 9644, dunno if they changed something, but it sounds just like all the other 9600s buses. It's no longer unique lol. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cait Sith Posted December 12, 2012 Share #3864 Posted December 12, 2012 5172, has a weird whirring sound when it accelerates. Not sure if it's some new engine or maybe something's not working. Just sounded very odd. 9644, dunno if they changed something, but it sounds just like all the other 9600s buses. It's no longer unique lol. Damn As for 5172, could be a turbo or transmission whine,. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GojiMet86 Posted December 12, 2012 Share #3865 Posted December 12, 2012 They had #3100, #2969, and #9098 all running on the M42 today. I rode them all. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fresh Pond Posted December 13, 2012 Share #3866 Posted December 13, 2012 FR is still closed, their buses are still at JFK and SC so you'll see JFK and SC buses on the 52 and other FR routes until FR reopens or maybe even longer if they still need extra service. The new name for them is John F. Rockaway (JFRock) 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
XcelsiorBoii4888 Posted December 13, 2012 Share #3867 Posted December 13, 2012 sighh...there goes 4871...is there a reason to pull soo damm HARD?!?!?! 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turbo19 Posted December 13, 2012 Share #3868 Posted December 13, 2012 Goes to show you tape would have been more cost effective. Probably would last 5X as long as the cords. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MHV9218 Posted December 13, 2012 Share #3869 Posted December 13, 2012 Tape gets broken all the time too...this kind of thing is uncommon and fixable, just like tape. Just shouldn't be going out like this...and it's mainly Castleton buses that have actually gone out looking this way. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ciboii22 Posted December 13, 2012 Share #3870 Posted December 13, 2012 sighh...there goes 4871...is there a reason to pull soo damm HARD?!?!?! Well they just like pulling things, it probably was some bad ass kids who just yanked the hell out of it and it broke. Goes to show you tape would have been more cost effective. Probably would last 5X as long as the cords. Agreed, Tape would last longer but more expensive its like 200$ to replace each tape thats broken. But MTA wants to act cheap, buying these new buses & trains and tech shit. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
XcelsiorBoii4888 Posted December 13, 2012 Share #3871 Posted December 13, 2012 Tape gets broken all the time too...this kind of thing is uncommon and fixable, just like tape. Just shouldn't be going out like this...and it's mainly Castleton buses that have actually gone out looking this way. really?? how does the tape get broken? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MHV9218 Posted December 13, 2012 Share #3872 Posted December 13, 2012 Just takes some miswiring or a short circuit, happens on plenty of buses. I was just on an LGA RTS last week where the op was complaining to me that the tape didn't have any effect, and when the tape gets broken it's more of a pain to fix it. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CDTA Posted December 13, 2012 Share #3873 Posted December 13, 2012 IMO the M42 should have artics as a replacement for the M104. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
XcelsiorBoii4888 Posted December 13, 2012 Share #3874 Posted December 13, 2012 Just takes some miswiring or a short circuit, happens on plenty of buses. I was just on an LGA RTS last week where the op was complaining to me that the tape didn't have any effect, and when the tape gets broken it's more of a pain to fix it. well the pull cord would be every efficient if people were mature and weren't kids. and if those crazy people can stop yanking on it...like damm...just grab it and pull it softly till you cant pull anymore... 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NYCtrainfan01 Posted December 13, 2012 Share #3875 Posted December 13, 2012 (edited) well the pull cord would be every efficient if people were mature and weren't kids. and if those crazy people can stop yanking on it...like damm...just grab it and pull it softly till you cant pull anymore... That sounds like what a guy would tell his girl to do lol... (Couldn't pass on that joke lol...) But in all seriousness, I bet you it's those school kids that pull those damn things too hard... But yes, a cord is easier to fix than a tape... Edited December 13, 2012 by NYCtrainfan01 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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