N6 Limited Posted October 2, 2022 Share #2276 Posted October 2, 2022 Does anyone know how/if westbound track assignments are going to change at Jamaica once Grand Central Madison opens? For example, Would all trains to Grand Central Madison arrive on tracks 1 and 2 and trains to Penn Station arrive on Tracks 3 and 4? Or, do you think they will alternate trains for easy same-platform transfers between terminals? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darkstar8983 Posted October 4, 2022 Share #2277 Posted October 4, 2022 On 10/2/2022 at 2:18 PM, N6 Limited said: Does anyone know how/if westbound track assignments are going to change at Jamaica once Grand Central Madison opens? For example, Would all trains to Grand Central Madison arrive on tracks 1 and 2 and trains to Penn Station arrive on Tracks 3 and 4? Or, do you think they will alternate trains for easy same-platform transfers between terminals? I think it would make sense to alternate since otherwise west of Jamaica trains would need to switch again, since the service to the local stops is going to alternate 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
N6 Limited Posted October 6, 2022 Share #2278 Posted October 6, 2022 Two-way (Westbound) service Is now available at Elmont - UBS Arena Station. On 10/4/2022 at 7:04 AM, darkstar8983 said: I think it would make sense to alternate since otherwise west of Jamaica trains would need to switch again, since the service to the local stops is going to alternate I agree. I believe on one of their videos they show alternating trains on tracks 1-3 for service to Penn and GCM. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trainfan22 Posted October 14, 2022 Share #2279 Posted October 14, 2022 (edited) LIRR M7 #7494 and its mate has clear windows on its southern side. As yall know most M7s windows on the southern side are messed up due to the sun. NJ Transit MLV fleet has the same problem but on BOTH sides of the car due to looping at Sunnyside so NJT plans to replace the windows on its MLV fleet. Let's hope LIRR follows suit with its M7 fleet. Edited October 14, 2022 by trainfan22 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
QM1to6Ave Posted October 15, 2022 Share #2280 Posted October 15, 2022 3 hours ago, trainfan22 said: LIRR M7 #7494 and its mate has clear windows on its southern side. As yall know most M7s windows on the southern side are messed up due to the sun. NJ Transit MLV fleet has the same problem but on BOTH sides of the car due to looping at Sunnyside so NJT plans to replace the windows on its MLV fleet. Let's hope LIRR follows suit with its M7 fleet. What do you mean by “messed up”? Is this an issue on the M8/9 fleets as well? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trainfan22 Posted October 15, 2022 Share #2281 Posted October 15, 2022 1 hour ago, QM1to6Ave said: What do you mean by “messed up”? Is this an issue on the M8/9 fleets as well? This blog post explains it better than I could https://www.thelirrtoday.com/2019/09/m-7-window-splotching.html?m=1 The M8s windows are still clear on both sides of the train and the M9s will have the same problem as the M7s do on the southern windows. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
QM1to6Ave Posted October 19, 2022 Share #2282 Posted October 19, 2022 On 10/15/2022 at 1:14 AM, trainfan22 said: This blog post explains it better than I could https://www.thelirrtoday.com/2019/09/m-7-window-splotching.html?m=1 The M8s windows are still clear on both sides of the train and the M9s will have the same problem as the M7s do on the southern windows. That is so weird. It seems like LIRR uses different cleaning chemicals than MNRR as far as I can tell, which is a big factor here? It's so hard to believe that MNRR avoided this problem but LIRR can't figure it out. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Via Garibaldi 8 Posted October 19, 2022 Share #2283 Posted October 19, 2022 6 hours ago, QM1to6Ave said: That is so weird. It seems like LIRR uses different cleaning chemicals than MNRR as far as I can tell, which is a big factor here? It's so hard to believe that MNRR avoided this problem but LIRR can't figure it out. I always thought there was some sort of film that went over the windows to protect them. If so, why can't they just replace that? Metro-North doesn't have such issues from what I've personally experienced anyway. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
QM1to6Ave Posted October 19, 2022 Share #2284 Posted October 19, 2022 3 hours ago, Via Garibaldi 8 said: I always thought there was some sort of film that went over the windows to protect them. If so, why can't they just replace that? Metro-North doesn't have such issues from what I've personally experienced anyway. With all of those LIRR maintenance workers scamming the system for hundreds of thousands of overtime dollars, you'd think at least they could keep the windows clear! This isn't an issue on any buses, either, that I've ever seen, and they get lots of sun exposure over the years 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Via Garibaldi 8 Posted October 19, 2022 Share #2285 Posted October 19, 2022 46 minutes ago, QM1to6Ave said: With all of those LIRR maintenance workers scamming the system for hundreds of thousands of overtime dollars, you'd think at least they could keep the windows clear! This isn't an issue on any buses, either, that I've ever seen, and they get lots of sun exposure over the years I forgot about that. LOL Yeah, they sometimes make more in OT than they do their regular salary and they aren't even working. Just crazy. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lawrence St Posted October 23, 2022 Share #2286 Posted October 23, 2022 How did LIRR add a third track without modifying the ROW? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Missabassie Posted October 23, 2022 Share #2287 Posted October 23, 2022 On 10/14/2022 at 7:54 PM, trainfan22 said: LIRR M7 #7494 and its mate has clear windows on its southern side. As yall know most M7s windows on the southern side are messed up due to the sun. NJ Transit MLV fleet has the same problem but on BOTH sides of the car due to looping at Sunnyside so NJT plans to replace the windows on its MLV fleet. Let's hope LIRR follows suit with its M7 fleet. Oooohh those Multilevel windows are AWFUL.... 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
46Dover Posted October 29, 2022 Share #2288 Posted October 29, 2022 On 10/23/2022 at 3:11 PM, Missabassie said: Oooohh those Multilevel windows are AWFUL.... NJ Transit would like a word with you 😁 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
46Dover Posted October 29, 2022 Share #2289 Posted October 29, 2022 On 9/10/2022 at 1:22 AM, Trainmaster5 said: Rename Nostrand Avenue? Only the eastbound platform is in Crown Heights. The westbound platform is in Bedford-Stuyvesant. Atlantic Avenue is the dividing line between the two neighborhoods. 😁 Yeah, Nostrand Av is good. No worst thing in the world than people doing too much...🤦♂️ 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
46Dover Posted October 29, 2022 Share #2290 Posted October 29, 2022 (edited) On 9/10/2022 at 1:22 AM, Trainmaster5 said: Edited October 29, 2022 by 46Dover Duplicate 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B35 via Church Posted October 30, 2022 Share #2291 Posted October 30, 2022 On 10/23/2022 at 11:41 AM, Lawrence St said: How did LIRR add a third track without modifying the ROW? The dashed blue lines represents new track that was laid out... The short answer to your question is that the trackage of the OB branch & the Hempstead branch allowed for potential track spacing along the Main line b/w Floral Park & Hicksville... 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cait Sith Posted November 2, 2022 Share #2292 Posted November 2, 2022 On 10/2/2022 at 2:18 PM, N6 Limited said: Does anyone know how/if westbound track assignments are going to change at Jamaica once Grand Central Madison opens? For example, Would all trains to Grand Central Madison arrive on tracks 1 and 2 and trains to Penn Station arrive on Tracks 3 and 4? Or, do you think they will alternate trains for easy same-platform transfers between terminals? I think the only big change is for the Atlantic Terminal trains, the shuttles will be on tracks 11/12. I don't know if those hourly West Hempstead trains are also on that platform. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lex Posted November 2, 2022 Share #2293 Posted November 2, 2022 54 minutes ago, Cait Sith said: I think the only big change is for the Atlantic Terminal trains, the shuttles will be on tracks 11/12. I don't know if those hourly West Hempstead trains are also on that platform. I seriously doubt it. Assuming it's even possible to go there from the east-of-Jamaica Montauk and Atlantic branches, it would be an insanely tight squeeze, particularly with all of those eastbound and terminating trains in the vicinity. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B35 via Church Posted November 3, 2022 Share #2294 Posted November 3, 2022 5 hours ago, Cait Sith said: ...I don't know if those hourly West Hempstead trains are also on that platform. I don't know why they would be. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mfs NJT459 Posted November 4, 2022 Share #2295 Posted November 4, 2022 Looks like the Great Neck pocket track project will be finished this month before ESA opens up 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Calvin Posted November 11, 2022 Share #2296 Posted November 11, 2022 Has the MTA LIRR confirmed the opening of service going to/from Grand Central Terminal next month or it'll be longer? They showcased the terminal to their channel but not sure if it's accurate or not. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mfs NJT459 Posted November 14, 2022 Share #2297 Posted November 14, 2022 Why are people not so hype about Reduced Aspect Signals “R.A.S.” on the LIRR vs the position light signals? If they were to keep the position light signals, then just make them brighter and LED efficiant 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trainfan22 Posted November 14, 2022 Share #2298 Posted November 14, 2022 46 minutes ago, mfs NJT459 said: Why are people not so hype about Reduced Aspect Signals “R.A.S.” on the LIRR vs the position light signals? If they were to keep the position light signals, then just make them brighter and LED efficiant Cause railfans generally don't like change. IIRC the position light signals date back to the PRR days and is one of last remaining things from the "old school" LIRR along with the M3s and MP15 locomotives. Speaking of MP15s, when does the LIRR plan to replace them? They are from the 70s and I've heard they have to run at restricted speed because they are in such poor condition. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mtatransit Posted November 14, 2022 Share #2299 Posted November 14, 2022 On 10/30/2022 at 8:39 AM, B35 via Church said: The dashed blue lines represents new track that was laid out... The short answer to your question is that the trackage of the OB branch & the Hempstead branch allowed for potential track spacing along the Main line b/w Floral Park & Hicksville... Still not a big fan of having both Oyster Bay tracks arriving on one track especially if they are all continuing to Jamaica/further west, but I guess with the budget that is all that is allowed for without going into deep tunneling/spacing constraints, Same thing goes with the conflict with the Hempstead Branch at Floral Park, granted MTA probably will be content with continuing to run crap service on that branch anyways Also for Mineola, instead of having complete open access to the bus platforms, MTA HAD to put a fence in to separate the railroad from the bus terminal. So much for "intermodal" 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lawrence St Posted November 15, 2022 Share #2300 Posted November 15, 2022 Why can't LIRR upgrade all their signals to the modern ones like on MNRR? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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