Planned Subway Service Changes

[darkstar8983]

When is the big  train GO supposed to start (63 St tunnel track reconstruction)

[Chris89292]

12 hours ago, darkstar8983 said:

When is the big  train GO supposed to start (63 St tunnel track reconstruction)

According to the community board member 8 website, the 63rd street track rehabilitation is cut into different phases, phase 1 starting in May 1-June 20 2023, Queens bound track closure , then phase 2 July 1-August 11 2023, both track closures, phase 3, Manhattan bound track closure from August 12-October 13 2023, for more info https://www.cb8m.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/02/63-St-Direct-Fixation-Stakeholder-Presentation-2023-02-10.pdf Service changes are subject to change 

Edited April 29, 2023 by Chris89292

[CyclonicTrainLookout]

33 minutes ago, Chris89292 said:

According to the community board member 8 website, the 63rd street track rehabilitation is cut into different phases, phase 1 starting in May 1-June 20 2023, Queens bound track closure , then phase 2 July 1-August 11 2023, both track closures, phase 3, Manhattan bound track closure from August 12-October 13 2023, for more info https://www.cb8m.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/02/63-St-Direct-Fixation-Stakeholder-Presentation-2023-02-10.pdf Service changes are subject to change 

Are you sure? While the link listed these dates, the MTA Planned Service Changes doesn't say otherwise. In addition, the link posted does state that this weekend the  is to run over 53rd St in both directions yet it's not happening. It could be that the link is only a tentative date (maybe due to ongoing CBTC work on the QBL) and start of work is pushed to a later date but I'm not entirely sure.

[Chris89292]

9 minutes ago, CyclonicTrainLookout said:

Are you sure? While the link listed these dates, the MTA Planned Service Changes doesn't say otherwise. In addition, the link posted does state that this weekend the  is to run over 53rd St in both directions yet it's not happening. It could be that the link is only a tentative date (maybe due to ongoing CBTC work on the QBL) and start of work is pushed to a later date but I'm not entirely sure.

Yeah, but that’s the only info we have, that’s why I said that this service change was subject to change in the end, maybe the MTA is still coordinating better ways to avoid service congestion to minimize inconvenience, or the project is just delayed for a few months

Edited April 29, 2023 by Chris89292

[Chris89292]

11 minutes ago, CyclonicTrainLookout said:

Are you sure? While the link listed these dates, the MTA Planned Service Changes doesn't say otherwise. In addition, the link posted does state that this weekend the  is to run over 53rd St in both directions yet it's not happening. It could be that the link is only a tentative date (maybe due to ongoing CBTC work on the QBL) and start of work is pushed to a later date but I'm not entirely sure.

Okay I just found new updates, apparently the project is delayed, the MTA is revising its schedule start date of the project, it’s possible the project wouldn’t start until at least 2024 https://rooseveltislander.blogspot.com/2023/03/roosevelt-island-escapes-transportation.html

[Chris89292]

12 hours ago, darkstar8983 said:

When is the big  train GO supposed to start (63 St tunnel track reconstruction)

UPDATE: the 63rd Steeet track rehabilitation project is delayed due to the MTA revising it’s schedule for the project, no start date confirmed yet, It is possible that the project will start in 2024

[darkstar8983]

33 minutes ago, Chris89292 said:

UPDATE: the 63rd Steeet track rehabilitation project is delayed due to the MTA revising it’s schedule for the project, no start date confirmed yet, It is possible that the project will start in 2024

At least It will allow the  work to get done (at least the express suspension) before the majority of the  work starts.

[Chris89292]

9 hours ago, darkstar8983 said:

At least It will allow the  work to get done (at least the express suspension) before the majority of the  work starts.

About that, I’m still wondering how the mta will handle the crowds at Jackson Heights-Roosevelt Avenue station, the  platforms will be more crowded during the  line project, unless they do run more trains like they planned to for this, there is always something happening on the QBL, whether it’s Signal problems or people being disruptive  

[darkstar8983]

11 hours ago, Chris89292 said:

About that, I’m still wondering how the mta will handle the crowds at Jackson Heights-Roosevelt Avenue station, the  platforms will be more crowded during the  line project, unless they do run more trains like they planned to for this, there is always something happening on the QBL, whether it’s Signal problems or people being disruptive  

There won't be enough crews to run 30 TPH on the full local  - there might be a reduction of 1-2 TPH during rush hours, and also pending rolling stock availability (reduced spare factor and increased crew requirements).

[CyclonicTrainLookout]

On 4/27/2023 at 10:25 AM, Daniel The Cool said:

Interesting G.O coming up on Memorial Day Weekend. All Northbound  Trains will be rerouted on 8th Avenue.

Update on this G.O: The  reroute on Memorial Day weekend is only the start of a bigger G.O. affecting the Sixth Avenue Line that is expected to take place between mid-May and the start of July. This G.O will allow switches near West 4th Street to be replaced.

The breakdown is as follows:

• May 15-July 3: Additional two minutes added to uptown . One less  will operate in the morning rush hour; two less  and one less  in the afternoon rush hour.  express will operate local during this period
• Weekends (Memorial Day weekend, June 2-5, June 16-19): Uptown  over 8th Avenue; uptown  express on 8th Avenue and Central Park West, with uptown  running local on CPW
• Weekend of May 13-15: uptown  making local stops on 6th Avenue
• Weekends of May 20-22 and June 30-July 3: uptown  running on 6th Avenue express
• Weeknights in two weeks (June 5-16):  express both directions on 8th Avenue and CPW;  local full route and via 8th Avenue and Culver Lines;  via Broadway and West End, running local in Manhattan and Brooklyn

Full information on this press release: https://new.mta.info/press-release/mta-perform-switch-replacement-work-b-d-f-m-lines-between-may-and-july-service

Side personal opinion: This G.O plus the  work the next few months might be why the MTA is delaying the 63rd Street tunnel work but I can't confirm this.

[RestrictOnTheHanger]

This GO is either a cause or effect of delaying the 63rd St project. Hopefully the QBL CBTC issues can be sorted out once that project starts. 

Wasn't there a switch replacement in that area recently? Or am I thinking of the interlocking upgrade in 2019 

[Wallyhorse]

If 63rd is delayed, this other project that is supposed to knock out the between Church Avenue and Stillwell that is already drawing fury for not including shuttle buses may be why.

[Daniel The Cool]

1 hour ago, RestrictOnTheHanger said:

This GO is either a cause or effect of delaying the 63rd St project. Hopefully the QBL CBTC issues can be sorted out once that project starts. 

Wasn't there a switch replacement in that area recently? Or am I thinking of the interlocking upgrade in 2019 

Nah the 63rd Street project is delayed for other reasons. 

 

The interlocking upgrade was back from August 2018 through September of 2018. They did replace the tracks on part of the local tracks at the end of 2018. 

[nightmare402]

Uptown trips will take an additional two minutes while traveling north of W 4 St-Wash Sq some and trains will not run  

May 15 - Jun 30, Monday to Friday

There will be one less train during the morning rush hour, two fewer trains and one less train during the evening rush hour.

You may experience longer wait times, additional crowding and delays.

Reminder: trains do not run, and trains do not operate in midtown Manhattan overnight or on weekends.

What's happening?

Switch replacement work near W 4 St-Wash Sq

 

[Chris89292]

In Queens, Manhattan-bound 7 skips 111 St and 82 St-Jackson Hts

Beginning May 15, Mon 5:00 AM through October 2023

Use nearby 103 St-Corona Plaza, 90 St-Elmhurst Av or 74 St-Broadway stations.

Additional travel alternatives:

For service to 111 St, take the 7 to 103 St-Corona Plaza and transfer to a Flushing-bound 7.

For service to 82 St-Jackson Hts, take the 7 to 74 St-Broadway and transfer to a Flushing-bound 7.

For service from these stations, take the 7 to 90 St-Elmhurst Av or Mets-Willets Point, and transfer to a Manhattan-bound 7.

Travel tip: Consider Q32 or Q48 buses available days and evenings along Roosevelt Ave.

For 111 St, connect between the 7 and Q48 and at Mets-Willets Point.

For 82 St-Jackson Hts, connect between the 7 and Q32 at 74 St-Broadway.

What's happening?

We're making station improvements

[Chris89292]

Just now, Chris89292 said:

In Queens, Manhattan-bound 7 skips 111 St and 82 St-Jackson Hts

Beginning May 15, Mon 5:00 AM through October 2023

Use nearby 103 St-Corona Plaza, 90 St-Elmhurst Av or 74 St-Broadway stations.

Additional travel alternatives:

For service to 111 St, take the 7 to 103 St-Corona Plaza and transfer to a Flushing-bound 7.

For service to 82 St-Jackson Hts, take the 7 to 74 St-Broadway and transfer to a Flushing-bound 7.

For service from these stations, take the 7 to 90 St-Elmhurst Av or Mets-Willets Point, and transfer to a Manhattan-bound 7.

Travel tip: Consider Q32 or Q48 buses available days and evenings along Roosevelt Ave.

For 111 St, connect between the 7 and Q48 and at Mets-Willets Point.

For 82 St-Jackson Hts, connect between the 7 and Q32 at 74 St-Broadway.

What's happening?

We're making station improvements

The stations will be closed on Friday midnight, so technically this Friday is the last day the Manhattan bound platforms will be open 

[Lawrence St]

When was the last time Lexington Ave was actually closed for planned work? I don’t mean trains running express as opposed to local, I mean a full shutdown.

[Q43LTD]

On 5/11/2023 at 7:12 PM, Chris89292 said:

In Queens, Manhattan-bound 7 skips 111 St and 82 St-Jackson Hts

Beginning May 15, Mon 5:00 AM through October 2023

Use nearby 103 St-Corona Plaza, 90 St-Elmhurst Av or 74 St-Broadway stations.

Additional travel alternatives:

For service to 111 St, take the 7 to 103 St-Corona Plaza and transfer to a Flushing-bound 7.

For service to 82 St-Jackson Hts, take the 7 to 74 St-Broadway and transfer to a Flushing-bound 7.

For service from these stations, take the 7 to 90 St-Elmhurst Av or Mets-Willets Point, and transfer to a Manhattan-bound 7.

Travel tip: Consider Q32 or Q48 buses available days and evenings along Roosevelt Ave.

For 111 St, connect between the 7 and Q48 and at Mets-Willets Point.

For 82 St-Jackson Hts, connect between the 7 and Q32 at 74 St-Broadway.

What's happening?

We're making station improvements

No mention of the between 82 and 74?

[Chris89292]

36th Street Station improvements and repairs  

This project will require the station to close down in both directions for repairs, From June 5-12, I’m not sure if this is a small renovation, the information that is given is new ADA compliant platform edge replacement, new lighting, replacing wall tiles, ect. 46th street station will also be closed down in the near future as well for repairs, it’s part of the contract A36986.

Edited June 1, 2023 by Chris89292

[Chris89292]

On 5/29/2023 at 12:01 PM, Q43LTD said:

No mention of the between 82 and 74?

People can just walk to 74th street if they have to go to Manhattan urgently, instead of having to take a flushing bound  to 90th Street, takes too much time

[randomnewyorker23]

If 63rd is being reconstructed, would that mean the  runs via 53rd like it used to, and if it does what happens to the ?

[Vulturious]

2 hours ago, randomnewyorker23 said:

If 63rd is being reconstructed, would that mean the  runs via 53rd like it used to, and if it does what happens to the ?

Well a while back, the MTA released a PDF that involved the 63 St reconstruction which involved the  running via 53 St along with the  still running towards midtown, but running in one direction replacing  service along 63 St while running its normal routing along 53 St in the other.

Safe to say they went back to the drawing board since it was supposed to happen this month I believe right about now actually. They kept one direction still running for direct service to/from Manhattan and Roosevelt Island since the only way riders get in and out if it was a complete closure would be through Queens by bus. It's unknown whether they will stick to this plan or not later on this year or next year.

[Kamen Rider]

I'm pretty sure QB CBTC East has priority at the moment. 

[randomnewyorker23]

is it just the  side being affected or is the  side getting renovated as well (probably not considering the  has only run on those tracks for years compared to the  running on those tracks for almost 35.

[Kamen Rider]

1 hour ago, randomnewyorker23 said:

is it just the  side being affected or is the  side getting renovated as well (probably not considering the  has only run on those tracks for years compared to the  running on those tracks for almost 35.

it's the direct fixation tracks. Same reason both the E and J had long term outages on the Archer Avenue Line.