Dj Hammers Posted December 28, 2017 Share #1776 Posted December 28, 2017 The clocks are driven by the supplement schedules being operated. Since this shortlined J is really internally an M run with M crews from the M work program, the supplement is an M supplement. This is why the trains show up as Ms on the countdown clocks. There may be workarounds for this issue but I’m not sure. The bugs and issues are still being worked out on the countdown clocks. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S78 via Hylan Posted January 1, 2018 Share #1777 Posted January 1, 2018 (edited) On 12/27/2017 at 12:20 PM, S78 via Hylan said: Starting off the weekends of the new year: 242 St bound service runs express from Dyckman to 242 St: Jan 6-7 Operates between 241 St and South Ferry (No service to Dyre Av): Jan 6-8, 13-15, 20-22 Split service at 125 St (Woodlawn bound trains skip 138 St); Local service in Manhattan: Jan 6-8, 13-15, 20-22 No service north of Grand Central: Jan 6-8, 13-15, 20-22 Flushing bound service is express from Queensboro Plaza to Willets point: Jan 6-7 Local service in Brooklyn between Hoyt St and Broadway Junction: Jan 5-8 Local service along CPW: Jan 12-15 Uptown service is express in Manhattan: Jan 19-22 No service north of 145 St: Jan 20-21 Via 8 Av Express and Culver: Jan 5-8, 12-15 Manhattan bound service is Express overnight in Brooklyn and skips DeKalb Av: Jan 19-22 Local service in Queens: Jan 5-8, Manhattan bound service is local: Jan 19-22 Queens bound trains skip 14 and 23 Sts: Jan 19-22 Via B’way/4 Av Express and West End: Jan 5-8, 12-15 No service south of Church Av: Jan 26-29 No service east of Crescent St: Jan 6-7, 13-14, 20-21 Manhattan bound service runs express from Myrtle to Marcy Avs: Jan 6-7, 13-14, 20-21, 27-28 Split service at Broadway Junction: Jan 20 (Saturday only) No Mainline service: Jan 6-7, 13-14, 20-21, 27-28 Astoria bound trains run express from Queensboro Plaza to Astoria Blvd: Jan 5-8, 12-15, 19-22, 26-29 via Montague, both directions, Manhattan bound service is local in Brooklyn: Jan 5-8, 12-15 Local service in Brooklyn, both directions: Jan 27-29 Manhattan bound service via Montague: Jan 19-22 Bay Ridge bound service runs express from Atlantic-Barclays to 59 St: Jan 5-8, 12-15 Manhattan bound service express in Brooklyn, via Bridge, no late night service between Whitehall St and 59 St, Brooklyn: Jan 19-22 Manhattan bound service is express in Queens: Jan 27-28 Add: Service is entirely local in Manhattan: Jan 5-8 The same service changes for the and will also take effect the last weekend of January. Edited January 1, 2018 by S78 via Hylan 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jsunflyguy Posted January 1, 2018 Share #1778 Posted January 1, 2018 Can someone help clear up a G.O for me this passed weekend. Yesterday was running Dyre to SF and the was running 241-Flatbush. Essentially the and swapped sides in Manhattan, does anyone have an idea of what would cause this change? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RR503 Posted January 1, 2018 Share #1779 Posted January 1, 2018 5 minutes ago, Jsunflyguy said: Can someone help clear up a G.O for me this passed weekend. Yesterday was running Dyre to SF and the was running 241-Flatbush. Essentially the and swapped sides in Manhattan, does anyone have an idea of what would cause this change? Clark st tube shutdown. crews are running trains signed up as s from 241 to FABC, and crews are running trains signed up as s Dyre to SF. This is all so there is no train service in the Clark st tube, which is having Sandy repair work done. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill from Maspeth Posted January 1, 2018 Share #1780 Posted January 1, 2018 (edited) 55 minutes ago, Jsunflyguy said: Can someone help clear up a G.O for me this passed weekend. Yesterday was running Dyre to SF and the was running 241-Flatbush. Essentially the and swapped sides in Manhattan, does anyone have an idea of what would cause this change? Passengers are used to this service plan (#5 White Plains to Flatbush via Lex, 4 to New Lots, 2 to South Ferry, 3 to 14/7) with weekend schedules. No sense confusing them for a few days when no Clark St. work done. I approve. Edited January 1, 2018 by Bill from Maspeth 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GreatOne2k Posted January 1, 2018 Share #1781 Posted January 1, 2018 (edited) 47 minutes ago, Bill from Maspeth said: Passengers are used to this service plan (#5 White Plains to Flatbush via Lex, 4 to New Lots, 2 to South Ferry, 3 to 14/7) with weekend schedules. No sense confusing them for a few days when no Clark St. work done. I approve. It also saves MTA money to keep the Clark Street Tunnels closed Edited January 1, 2018 by GreatOne2k 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jemorie Posted January 1, 2018 Share #1782 Posted January 1, 2018 28 minutes ago, GreatOne2k said: It also saves MTA money to keep the Clark Street Tunnels closed How? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GreatOne2k Posted January 2, 2018 Share #1783 Posted January 2, 2018 1 hour ago, Jemorie said: How? Brooklyn only has the and instead of the ,, and . MTA saves money during the day, only during the night would MTA ( and crews are running extended services) would the MTA lose a bit, but it is still overall weekend savings for MTA. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jsunflyguy Posted January 2, 2018 Share #1784 Posted January 2, 2018 1 hour ago, GreatOne2k said: Brooklyn only has the and instead of the ,, and . MTA saves money during the day, only during the night would MTA ( and crews are running extended services) would the MTA lose a bit, but it is still overall weekend savings for MTA. As far as it goes crews have 5 days of work no matter what. Even in the likely event the crews are running the the standard staffing would still be on duty either on the board/extra list or commandeered by another line. The only way to reduce cost would be to turn off the electricity. In terms of cost reduction you might see a slight reduction *IF* the supplement they run for the Clark St Closure reduced the number of overtime jobs, Considering that the other lines are extended to cover the gaps in other service it's most likely a wash. 4 hours ago, Bill from Maspeth said: Passengers are used to this service plan (#5 White Plains to Flatbush via Lex, 4 to New Lots, 2 to South Ferry, 3 to 14/7) with weekend schedules. No sense confusing them for a few days when no Clark St. work done. I approve. In that light, I could see the sense in that GO for continuity. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CenSin Posted January 2, 2018 Share #1785 Posted January 2, 2018 32 minutes ago, Jsunflyguy said: As far as it goes crews have 5 days of work no matter what. Even in the likely event the crews are running the the standard staffing would still be on duty either on the board/extra list or commandeered by another line. The only way to reduce cost would be to turn off the electricity. In terms of cost reduction you might see a slight reduction *IF* the supplement they run for the Clark St Closure reduced the number of overtime jobs, Considering that the other lines are extended to cover the gaps in other service it's most likely a wash. In that light, I could see the sense in that GO for continuity. Since the MTA plans track work well in advance, couldn't they not assign those work days well in advance to save on operational costs? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lawrence St Posted January 3, 2018 Share #1786 Posted January 3, 2018 Wait, they're cutting off access to the to people in the Bronx, and give them the that' only running to ST? That' the need for 2 extra transfers then to get to Brooklyn. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jchambers2120 Posted January 3, 2018 Share #1787 Posted January 3, 2018 46 minutes ago, Lawrence St said: Wait, they're cutting off access to the to people in the Bronx, and give them the that' only running to ST? That' the need for 2 extra transfers then to get to Brooklyn. The 5 is running to/from Wakefield-Flatbush while the 2 is running to/from Dyre-SF. People living on the Dyre branch would've had to transfer regardless if they wanted access to Brooklyn on weekends. Also, the amount of people traveling to/from Brooklyn to the Bronx via subway is more than likely miniscule compared to the amount of people who need acess to Manhattan. The needs of the many > the needs of the few. The work must be done. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lawrence St Posted January 3, 2018 Share #1788 Posted January 3, 2018 That's not even remotely what I was referring to. Anyway, if they do this swap with the only running in the Bronx during that G.O week, people would have to transfer to the to get to the at 42nd St. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jemorie Posted January 3, 2018 Share #1789 Posted January 3, 2018 1 hour ago, Lawrence St said: Wait, they're cutting off access to the to people in the Bronx, and give them the that' only running to ST? That' the need for 2 extra transfers then to get to Brooklyn. You’re making it sound like people ride a train/bus from one end to the other. Almost no one does that. So I don’t where are you getting this from, but it’s not true. The vast majority of everyone from the outer boroughs are centric district-bound. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jemorie Posted January 3, 2018 Share #1790 Posted January 3, 2018 53 minutes ago, Lawrence St said: That's not even remotely what I was referring to. Anyway, if they do this swap with the only running in the Bronx during that G.O week, people would have to transfer to the to get to the at 42nd St. You just contradicted yourself, but back to topic I guess. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lawrence St Posted January 3, 2018 Share #1791 Posted January 3, 2018 1 hour ago, Jemorie said: You’re making it sound like people ride a train/bus from one end to the other. Almost no one does that. So I don’t where are you getting this from, but it’s not true. The vast majority of everyone from the outer boroughs are centric district-bound. What are you talking about? People from the Bronx who want to go Brooklyn have no other choice then to take the or . This G.O makes it harder for them to get there, for example if I'm coming from Dyre and want to get to Flatbush: --> SHUTTLE Bus to 180th --> to 149th St --> to Grand Central --> to Flatbush That's 3 transfers right there. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jemorie Posted January 3, 2018 Share #1792 Posted January 3, 2018 (edited) And how many people from the Bronx on WPR or Dyre want Brooklyn? That’s right, very few. You don’t know what you’re talking about and are just exaggerating about the fewer people who will complain lol. Take a seat. EDIT: Also, I don’t think you realize how dumb you sound when contradicted yourself. Lol. Edited January 3, 2018 by Jemorie 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lance Posted January 3, 2018 Share #1793 Posted January 3, 2018 (edited) @Lawrence St How many people take that trip though? Edited January 3, 2018 by Lance 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wallyhorse Posted January 3, 2018 Share #1794 Posted January 3, 2018 3 hours ago, Lance said: @Lawrence St How many people take that trip though? Not that many, but those who do would be quite vocal about it. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CenSin Posted January 3, 2018 Share #1795 Posted January 3, 2018 2 minutes ago, Wallyhorse said: Not that many, but those who do would be quite vocal about it. So? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wallyhorse Posted January 3, 2018 Share #1796 Posted January 3, 2018 Just now, CenSin said: So? That was the point. It would be a small number of highly vocal individuals that would NOT be the majority. I say this as one who actually did the from upper Manhattan to Flatbush (when the and went there) in the early '80s. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lance Posted January 3, 2018 Share #1797 Posted January 3, 2018 Cool beans. When you're commuting that far out, you really should expect to make multiple transfers, especially when these commutes occur during off-hours. It sucks, I know, but needs of the many and all of that. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HenryB Posted January 3, 2018 Share #1798 Posted January 3, 2018 any news on winter weather service change for tomorrow? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoHacksJustKhaks Posted January 3, 2018 Share #1799 Posted January 3, 2018 (edited) 8 minutes ago, HenryB said: any news on winter weather service change for tomorrow? Updates should be on MTA social media and on their website, I haven't seen any news reports yet but any changes to service could be based off of http://web.mta.info/coldWeather/ Im not too aware yet of the specific changes but hopefully someone else on the forum might know. Edited January 3, 2018 by NoHacksJustKhaks 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoHacksJustKhaks Posted January 3, 2018 Share #1800 Posted January 3, 2018 2 minutes ago, HenryB said: any news on winter weather service change for tomorrow? Updates should be on MTA social media and on their website, I haven't seen any news reports yet but any changes to service could be based off of http://web.mta.info/coldWeather/ 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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