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dumb question are the 160's getting swapped to 207 due to politics since the hipsters are complaining?

 

No. You're always obsessed with this idea that "hipsters" dominate politics. If anything, upset aged UWS residents have led a campaign against the 32s.

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No. You're always obsessed with this idea that "hipsters" dominate politics. If anything, upset aged UWS residents have led a campaign against the 32s.

 

Yeah, the hipsters love the 32s actually. It gives them "character". I personally can't wait until the entire line is R179s.

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Well they already started making the barn in fresh pond for the R32's for the (M) shuttle in the fall.

How's hard is the of maintenance on the R32's? Are parts harder to come by due to age? Or does the MTA create custom solutions to keep the fleet running?

 

 

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Maintenance of the R32's is really expensive as time goes by. It's hard to find parts and trains keep breaking down, it's certainly expensive because MTA keeps putting money in to maintain them. 50 million I believe to maintain the aging fleet. You can't create custom solutions with something that old. You need to install new hardware.

 

 

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Maintenance of the R32's is really expensive as time goes by. It's hard to find parts and trains keep breaking down, it's certainly expensive because MTA keeps putting money in to maintain them. 50 million I believe to maintain the aging fleet. You can't create custom solutions with something that old. You need to install new hardware.

 

 

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Installing newer hardware isn't that customizing? I mean at the end of the day you're installing new hardware that it wasn't originally made to use. It's like rebuilding or putting a new engine in a 68 Mustang.

 

 

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Maintenance of the R32's is really expensive as time goes by. It's hard to find parts and trains keep breaking down, it's certainly expensive because MTA keeps putting money in to maintain them. 50 million I believe to maintain the aging fleet. You can't create custom solutions with something that old. You need to install new hardware.

That's not completely true.

 

Since the R32s are of the SMEE family, many parts are shared with other cars (a big advantage), plus there's parts from 32s that were reefed that they saved.

 

And with the museum cars, many parts are made in-house

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No. You're always obsessed with this idea that "hipsters" dominate politics. If anything, upset aged UWS residents have led a campaign against the 32s.

 

slow your roll im referencing that riders alliance protest where they were dressed like they were in the 1960's 

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slow your roll im referencing that riders alliance protest where they were dressed like they were in the 1960's 

 

This is a picture from a recent Riders Alliance protest (featuring Yuki):

 

  riders-alliance.jpeg

 

It's not exactly a "hipster" crowd. That 1960s stunt was not about retro clothes; it was just to highlight the aged nature of the C train fleet. The councilman who attended was Robert Cornegy, who represents Bed-Stuy and the Crown Heights/Bed-Stuy contingent of C train riders.

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R32 and R160A-1 total list (with R42 and R143) [5/10/17] : 

 

(C):

R32: 3354-3355, 3360-3361, 3380-3381, 3384-3385, 3388-3389, 3394-3395, 3400-3401, 3404-3405, 3414-3417, 3424-3429, 3432-3433, 3436-3441, 3446-3447, 3452-3453, 3460-3461, 3472-3473, 3484-3485, 3496-3497, 3512-3513, 3518-3519, 3522-3523, 3586-3587, 3590-3591, 3606-3607, 3610-3611, 3618-3619, 3624-3625, 3660-3661, 3688-3689, 3728-3729, 3732-3733, 3738-3739, 3782-3783, 3792-3793, 3804-3807, 3820-3823, 3834-3835, 3840-3841, 3864-3865, 3872-3873, 3876-3879, with 3383:3890, 3548:3593, 3658:3471, 3419:3740 (106 cars in total, also used on the (A) as a 10-car train)

 

R160A-1: 8577-8652, 9943-9974 (108 cars In-Total)

 

 

(J)(Z)

R32: 3376-3377, 3396-3397, 3406-3407, 3410-3411, 3430-3431, 3442-3443, 3448-3449, 3454-3455, 3476-3477, 3488-3489, 3500-3501, 3514-3515, 3550-3551, 3574-3575, 3578-3579, 3614-3615, 3646-3647, 3654-3655, 3664-3665, 3670-3673, 3682-3683, 3698-3699, 3706-3709, 3714-3719, 3726-3727, 3730-3731, 3770-3775, 3778-3781, 3798-3799, 3810-3811, 3818-3819, 3828-3829, 3856-3857, 3870-3871, 3886-3889, 3894-3897, 3900-3901, 3912-3913, 3924-3925, 3928-3929, 3932-3933, 3938-3939 with 3621:3644, 3444:3468, 3445:3777, 3628:3669, 3650:3767, 3520:3891  (112 cars In-total)

*Spares: 3476-3477 / 3736-3737

 

(R42: 4788-4817, 4820-4839 - 50 units remain at ENY)

 

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R143 8101-8312 equipped with CBTC 
R160A-1: 8377-8576 (200 cars In-Total at ENY) with 8313-8376 equipped with CBTC (64) = 264

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The R32s are in much better shape than the R42s. It makes literally no sense to keep them.

The R32s have already outlived three other car classes that came later: The R38s, R40s (both S and M) and R44s.  Those cars have held up remarkably well for being 53 years old.  

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