R42N Posted November 9, 2017 Share #3776 Posted November 9, 2017 2 hours ago, Around the Horn said: The Staten Island Railway uses cab signals which is a non starter in R32's. Also the half cabs rear their ugly head again, when it comes to door operation (you need a full width cab for the current conductor markers at stops on the right hand side) Exactly, I’m just talking about how we have exhausted all options, and the SIR was the only line that was never discussed. So, while it might be un-popular, the or the , while problematic, might be the least of the bad options. Otherwise, if the R32’s really are a circle in a triangle hole, and can’t fit anywhere you put them, then you have to retire them, but here’s the thing, they aren’t a circle, they are usable cars, that until the 211’s, will need to be in use. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R32 3838 Posted November 9, 2017 Share #3777 Posted November 9, 2017 The only 2 lines you'll see them move to is ether the or the (G). If the does go 10 cars then the R32's will definitely be on the (A). That's if they go with the plan to increase the to 10 cars. If that Montague tube wasn't an issue then the would be my number 1 choice. But they're better off keeping them on the imo. Very litte complaints and barely any hvac issues 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R32 3838 Posted November 9, 2017 Share #3778 Posted November 9, 2017 57 minutes ago, Union Tpke said: They can't go on the (J). They need all the capacity they can get during the Canarsie shutdown, and the low MDBF can make it even harder to reach 24 TPH. The way the R179 order is going, there will still be some R32's left in ENY by the time the shutdown starts 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R32 3838 Posted November 9, 2017 Share #3779 Posted November 9, 2017 And one more thing, once the becomes 480 feet or full length, the R32's CAN go on the and opto service on weekends will end. The is the logical choice, just run them in intervals that they can lay em up in and you're fine. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Union Tpke Posted November 9, 2017 Share #3780 Posted November 9, 2017 28 minutes ago, R32 3838 said: The way the R179 order is going, there will still be some R32's left in ENY by the time the shutdown starts They will probably transfer R160s to get the R32s out if it comes to that. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R68OnBroadway Posted November 9, 2017 Share #3781 Posted November 9, 2017 3 hours ago, R42N said: I think the issue is here is that it becomes a process of elimination. Here are the cited issues with all the lines when the R179s come in: : Too “packed” : Montague a potential re-route (A possibility to some) : Not outdoors enough, will get more displaced pax at Broadway Junction, R179s will be added. : Montague a potential re-route : Not Outdoors; too packed for SMEE. : Too Packed for SMEE. : Plausible, but OPTO and overcrowding could be an issue / : No SMEE on Jamaica during Canarsie shutdown. : No SMEE on Jamaica/Bridge during Canarsie. / : Montague in-schedule : Montague a potential re-route : Montague in-schedule : Franklin is OPTO, Rockaway is plausible, but won’t use up fleet Frankly, the only route that hasn’t been discussed is the Staten Island Railway, or (SIR). Which would work, but it would need modification and then you’d have displaced R44’s on your hands. Best options there are is the and Rock . QBL will complain about the R32s and an R32 breaking down on 6th will kill the IND in Manhattan. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VIP Posted November 9, 2017 Share #3782 Posted November 9, 2017 (edited) The is just gonna have to get the R32’s and R42’s or Coney Island for service. The is gonna need all its NTTs while the shutdown is in effect. And when is the expected to be 600 feet?? Edited November 9, 2017 by VIP 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T to Dyre Avenue Posted November 9, 2017 Share #3783 Posted November 9, 2017 1 hour ago, R32 3838 said: The way the R179 order is going, there will still be some R32's left in ENY by the time the shutdown starts 1 hour ago, Union Tpke said: They will probably transfer R160s to get the R32s out if it comes to that. Then it’s back to the line for the ENY R32s. Because that’s the only non-ENY line running 4-car R160 sets. And it’s one of the few lines in northern Brooklyn that won’t be significantly affected by the shutdown, unlike the , and . Jamaica and Coney Island yards are unlikely to take them back and they can’t send any of their R160s to ENY, because they’re configured in 5-car sets. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Union Tpke Posted November 10, 2017 Share #3784 Posted November 10, 2017 They would prefer not to have them on the because it is completely underground. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VIP Posted November 10, 2017 Share #3785 Posted November 10, 2017 15 minutes ago, Union Tpke said: They would prefer not to have them on the because it is completely underground. But since when this became an issue? The R32’s ran on the for years and even currently. Hell, even a couple of 10-car R32’s run on the so if R32’s need to be reassigned to the then it will. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trainfan22 Posted November 10, 2017 Share #3786 Posted November 10, 2017 In regards to the A/C issue, I haven't been on a 32 on the this past summer that had broken A/C, however I been on a bunch of R62As and even R62s with broken A/C. If and riders that can deal with the occasional broken A/C, then why not riders? If the 179s aren't ready by the time the shutdown happens its best to swap the 160s on the with the 32s at ENY. I'm NOT saying its a fact but from my personal observation the IRT SMEE's have more unreliable A/C's than the 32s do. Still, the 42s would still be at ENY, this is where removing the wayside signals on the west of Broadway Junction really hurts the TA, once the shutdown happens the portion of the line that would still be running will have 8 min headways, if the wayside signals were still there the 42s could have went back on the line.. freeing up more NTT for the & lines. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LGA Link N Train Posted November 10, 2017 Share #3787 Posted November 10, 2017 is this the thread of the day or something? ??? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RR503 Posted November 10, 2017 Share #3788 Posted November 10, 2017 45 minutes ago, LGA Link N train said: is this the thread of the day or something? ??? ? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LGA Link N Train Posted November 10, 2017 Share #3789 Posted November 10, 2017 30 minutes ago, RR503 said: ? What, I saw a lot of replies from this thread in one day, so might as well name it the thread of the day 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VIP Posted November 10, 2017 Share #3790 Posted November 10, 2017 So um yeah, 207 Street’s R32’s are getting the interior car LED lights. Example: 3484/3485 these are amongst the few that have brightened interiors. I guess it’s part of the SMS including the roofs getting painted. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lance Posted November 10, 2017 Share #3791 Posted November 10, 2017 19 hours ago, R32 3838 said: If that Montague tube wasn't an issue then the would be my number 1 choice. I think that was everyone's first choice. It's a part-time line with a large portion outside, thus reducing the risk of overtaxing the HVAC system. They really screwed the pooch by limiting the clearance space in Montague. 16 hours ago, VIP said: But since when this became an issue? The R32’s ran on the for years and even currently. Hell, even a couple of 10-car R32’s run on the so if R32’s need to be reassigned to the then it will. The cars are older now and thus are more susceptible to mechanical issues cropping up on them. With the current car assignment setup, we don't have all of the 32s on a completely underground line. Keeping them interspersed with the A1s allow for the for the 32s to get a break, something they could not get being the sole fleet of the line. 14 hours ago, VIP said: So um yeah, 207 Street’s R32’s are getting the interior car LED lights. Example: 3484/3485 these are amongst the few that have brightened interiors. I guess it’s part of the SMS including the roofs getting painted. Interesting. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MHV9218 Posted November 10, 2017 Share #3792 Posted November 10, 2017 17 hours ago, VIP said: So um yeah, 207 Street’s R32’s are getting the interior car LED lights. Example: 3484/3485 these are amongst the few that have brightened interiors. I guess it’s part of the SMS including the roofs getting painted. As mentioned earlier, isn't it just that the incredibly opaque light covers are getting replaced or cleaned? I didn't see LEDs on 3778-3779 when I briefly saw them recently. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VIP Posted November 10, 2017 Share #3793 Posted November 10, 2017 1 hour ago, MHV9218 said: As mentioned earlier, isn't it just that the incredibly opaque light covers are getting replaced or cleaned? I didn't see LEDs on 3778-3779 when I briefly saw them recently. The East New York sets aren’t getting them for some reason. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R32 3838 Posted November 11, 2017 Share #3794 Posted November 11, 2017 The R32's on the to the rockaways would spend more outdoor time plus being express than the on brighton. The on brighton is like the to lefferts when it comes to timing outside. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
78 via Stew Leonards Posted November 11, 2017 Share #3795 Posted November 11, 2017 The and are being rerouted to Montague?? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S78 via Hylan Posted November 11, 2017 Share #3796 Posted November 11, 2017 2 hours ago, 78 via Stew Leonards said: The and are being rerouted to Montague?? They can be if any incident happens on the Manhattan Bridge that requires it to temporarily close until whatever issue clears up. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
78 via Stew Leonards Posted November 11, 2017 Share #3797 Posted November 11, 2017 8 hours ago, S78 via Hylan said: They can be if any incident happens on the Manhattan Bridge that requires it to temporarily close until whatever issue clears up. I remember as a kid when they only ran to 34th St under Manhattan bridge construction. That took the soul and identity out of the and 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B46 via Utica Posted November 12, 2017 Share #3798 Posted November 12, 2017 13 hours ago, S78 via Hylan said: They can be if any incident happens on the Manhattan Bridge that requires it to temporarily close until whatever issue clears up. They can also be rerouted to the line or even the and lines. Just seen a train at York St last week and I've took the train to Chambers St before. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LegoBrickBreaker101 Posted November 12, 2017 Share #3799 Posted November 12, 2017 10 minutes ago, B46 via Utica said: They can also be rerouted to the line or even the and lines. Just seen a train at York St last week and I've took the train to Chambers St before. How's that going to work if the train is coming from Brooklyn? That's what the problem is here 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LGA Link N Train Posted November 12, 2017 Share #3800 Posted November 12, 2017 Simple Answer TRANSFER ALL OF THE R32's TO THE LINE AND THE ROCKAWAY PARK Don't even bother with the other lines R32's are banned from montague won't work, to say nothing for the cause of CBTC 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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