Calvin Posted January 25, 2023 Share #2451 Posted January 25, 2023 (edited) I'm not sure if this is new to others but I heard that the M3s aren't allowed to be used to/from Grand Central. Not sure if it's a clearance issue or so. Edited January 25, 2023 by Calvin 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NBTA Posted January 25, 2023 Share #2452 Posted January 25, 2023 23 hours ago, 67thAve said: I'm glad to hear that it's opening, but definitely quite disappointed that it's happening while I'm away in London for three months! Hopefully the LIRR concourse doesn't turn into a homeless colony by April. I guess my surprise run-in with a certain famous London transport personality earlier this month was my consolation prize after all... Sounds like a certain “All the Stations” guy..but It will definitely turn into a homeless shelter within maybe even a month, once one finds out, the rest will. The main floor of GCT will be empty in comparison to the LIRR floor (since it’ll be opened all night). 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lex Posted January 25, 2023 Share #2453 Posted January 25, 2023 3 hours ago, NBTA said: Sounds like a certain “All the Stations” guy..but It will definitely turn into a homeless shelter within maybe even a month, once one finds out, the rest will. The main floor of GCT will be empty in comparison to the LIRR floor (since it’ll be opened all night). Where did you get that from? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NBTA Posted January 25, 2023 Share #2454 Posted January 25, 2023 3 hours ago, Lex said: Where did you get that from? When the service fully runs to Grand Central (not this shuttle thing), I believe trains will run there all night. I could be wrong as always. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
danielhg121 Posted January 25, 2023 Share #2455 Posted January 25, 2023 9 hours ago, Calvin said: I'm not sure if this is new to others but I heard that the M3s aren't allowed to be used to/from Grand Central. Not sure if it's a clearance issue or so. Yep no M3’s and no diesels. I believe it was said that they couldn’t make the steep climb out of the portal on the way out or they didn’t want to risk it. They’ve never run an M3 in there to begin with. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
N6 Limited Posted January 25, 2023 Share #2456 Posted January 25, 2023 Diesels would pollute the tunnel and station. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mysterious2train Posted January 25, 2023 Share #2457 Posted January 25, 2023 2 hours ago, NBTA said: When the service fully runs to Grand Central (not this shuttle thing), I believe trains will run there all night. I could be wrong as always. The draft East Side Access schedules show no service to/from Grand Central Madison between ~1:45 AM and 5:45 AM. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
danielhg121 Posted January 25, 2023 Share #2458 Posted January 25, 2023 2 hours ago, N6 Limited said: Diesels would pollute the tunnel and station. Clearance issue. Dual-modes can operate into Penn in electric mode. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trainfan22 Posted January 25, 2023 Share #2459 Posted January 25, 2023 7 hours ago, danielhg121 said: Yep no M3’s and no diesels. I believe it was said that they couldn’t make the steep climb out of the portal on the way out or they didn’t want to risk it. They’ve never run an M3 in there to begin with. The M3s also aren't compatible with the new signal system in the ESA tunnels. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
N6 Limited Posted January 25, 2023 Share #2460 Posted January 25, 2023 The TrainTime app has been improved. You can now select up to four origin and destination pairs (2 each) on the Trips tab to check your options. For example, if you live close to New Hyde Park and Stewart Manor or Mount Vernon East/West, you can enter in both stations to see train times to/from both stations. You can also do the same for Penn Station/Grand Central In the FROM section to see which station it makes sense to head to if you’re in a cab or something. It’ll also be good for the stations that are connected by a bus route, it’ll make it easier to plan where to make the transfer. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoHacksJustKhaks Posted January 25, 2023 Share #2461 Posted January 25, 2023 16 hours ago, NBTA said: It will definitely turn into a homeless shelter within maybe even a month A month? How about a day... I might have seen some homeless people when I was walking into the station today. The stop is so big that I honestly didn't minded them, but I could definitely see that getting out of hand down the line when more of them tell each other. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Calvin Posted January 25, 2023 Share #2462 Posted January 25, 2023 (edited) From what I've heard when chatting with the LIRR conductors at Grand Central, if there's ever a need if you're traveling at a LIRR station like Jamaica or Garden City and your destination is at a Metro North station for example, Croton-Hampton or Poughkeepsie, there will be a combo ticket in such when doing this method or a discount ticket when traveling between the two railroads. That's when there's full service coming soon to/from the new Grand Central terminal. Also, want to point out: today, the LIRR Grand Central shuttle consists of only the M9s. The M7s may make an appearance soon in passenger service. Edited January 26, 2023 by Calvin 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoHacksJustKhaks Posted January 25, 2023 Share #2463 Posted January 25, 2023 As for the rest of GCM, wow. It really is an amazing station, not merely with its newness, but also scale. You feel so tiny looking down the platforms, it's a wild feeling. Honestly, it feels like a bigger subway station (like 2nd Av) as opposed to a LIRR stop. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Via Garibaldi 8 Posted January 26, 2023 Share #2464 Posted January 26, 2023 (edited) 2 hours ago, NoHacksJustKhaks said: A month? How about a day... I might have seen some homeless people when I was walking into the station today. The stop is so big that I honestly didn't minded them, but I could definitely see that getting out of hand down the line when more of them tell each other. There are always some homeless in Grand Central, but it's usually nothing like Penn Station, in part because there is a homeless outreach unit that goes around. They are quite active. Additionally, Grand Central does not stay open 24/7 like Penn Station, so they cannot just stay there indefinitely. They also don't let them just lounge about. Most of the time you will see them standing on the Lower Concourse. It used to be worse years ago, but with the more upscale options in Grand Central, you see fewer of them or they make themselves less noticeable. There are patrol desks on both the Main Concourse and Lower Concourse to monitor all activity, so as someone who has frequented Grand Central as MNRR rider and worker in the area for years that has dined there or bought food there often, they will not let it get out of hand like Penn Station. The merchants using those areas made it clear that the homeless previously were bad for business, so measures were taken to contain the situation. The opening to the LIRR area used to be filled with homeless before the conversion, so much so that us office workers that frequented Grand Central for lunch couldn't eat in that area. Occasionally I would eat lunch on the Lower Level with a co-worker and stopped doing that pre-COVID because there were too many of them walking around, so we would get food and bring it back to our office or eat elsewhere in Grand Central where they couldn't congregate, but now I would eat on the Lower Level with little concern. Security all over Grand Central has been greatly improved I must say, not just the Concourse levels, but the entrances by Vanderbilt where you will find a few upscale restaurants that I have frequented over the years. https://www.cbsnews.com/newyork/news/grand-central-terminal-business-owners-homeless/ Edited January 26, 2023 by Via Garibaldi 8 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IAlam Posted January 26, 2023 Share #2465 Posted January 26, 2023 (edited) Ok so with my experience with GCM there are 4 exits each color coded for the street they lead to. There is a hidden back staircase to the 100 level MNR platforms behind the escalators at 45th St and and another hidden connection to the 2 digit platforms on 47th St. If you know your connecting track it is much faster to use those connections than walking to/from GCM and backtracking to GCT. Edited January 26, 2023 by IAlam 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xD4nn Posted January 26, 2023 Share #2466 Posted January 26, 2023 6 hours ago, trainfan22 said: The M3s also aren't compatible with the new signal system in the ESA tunnels. The signal system is the same. It is ACSES and LIRR's form of ATC... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cait Sith Posted January 26, 2023 Share #2467 Posted January 26, 2023 22 hours ago, NBTA said: Sounds like a certain “All the Stations” guy..but It will definitely turn into a homeless shelter within maybe even a month, once one finds out, the rest will. The main floor of GCT will be empty in comparison to the LIRR floor (since it’ll be opened all night). 5 hours ago, NoHacksJustKhaks said: A month? How about a day... I might have seen some homeless people when I was walking into the station today. The stop is so big that I honestly didn't minded them, but I could definitely see that getting out of hand down the line when more of them tell each other. Grand Central is closed for four hours overnight for cleaning and for security purposes. MTA PD does a pretty good job kicking everyone out. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Via Garibaldi 8 Posted January 26, 2023 Share #2468 Posted January 26, 2023 38 minutes ago, Cait Sith said: Grand Central is closed for four hours overnight for cleaning and for security purposes. MTA PD does a pretty good job kicking everyone out. Correct, but why is everyone saying that Grand Central will be open 24/7 now? I haven't heard any such news. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cait Sith Posted January 26, 2023 Share #2469 Posted January 26, 2023 2 hours ago, Via Garibaldi 8 said: Correct, but why is everyone saying that Grand Central will be open 24/7 now? I haven't heard any such news. I doubt it will be. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lawrence St Posted January 26, 2023 Share #2470 Posted January 26, 2023 Train 9003 to GCT is crowded…never knew there was such a high demand for LIRR service to GCT. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewFlyer 230 Posted January 26, 2023 Share #2471 Posted January 26, 2023 3 hours ago, Lawrence St said: Train 9003 to GCT is crowded…never knew there was such a high demand for LIRR service to GCT. A lot of people traveling from Queens/Long Island want east side service. At Lexington Ave going SB the can get crushed with people and a lot of those people would get off at 34th street for the LIRR. Once the other branches start serving Grand Central, we should start to see more room on the . 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Via Garibaldi 8 Posted January 26, 2023 Share #2472 Posted January 26, 2023 And the escalators are already having issues... lol 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xD4nn Posted January 26, 2023 Share #2473 Posted January 26, 2023 17 hours ago, Via Garibaldi 8 said: Correct, but why is everyone saying that Grand Central will be open 24/7 now? I haven't heard any such news. It will not. GCT will shut down between 2-4 or something around that time. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Via Garibaldi 8 Posted January 27, 2023 Share #2474 Posted January 27, 2023 1 hour ago, xD4nn said: It will not. GCT will shut down between 2-4 or something around that time. That makes sense, as they shut down for cleaning. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
checkmatechamp13 Posted January 27, 2023 Share #2475 Posted January 27, 2023 9 hours ago, NewFlyer 230 said: A lot of people traveling from Queens/Long Island want east side service. At Lexington Ave going SB the can get crushed with people and a lot of those people would get off at 34th street for the LIRR. Once the other branches start serving Grand Central, we should start to see more room on the . I think the majority of those people are going to NJ Transit. (Either the trains at 34th Street/Penn Station, or the buses at 42nd Street/PABT). It'll definitely take some riders off the (in both directions, towards Penn Station and towards Jamaica), but I don't think the difference will be that much. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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