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17 hours ago, Axis said:

Just missed a Far Rockaway-bound (A) train here at Fulton Center, because the (4) I was on took too long to leave City Hall & go between City Hall & Fulton Center. Gotta now wait 20+ minutes for the next one.

Once again, I propose for either a one-seat bus ride between Bronx & Five Towns/Far Rockaway, OR cross-honoring Unlimited Rides MetroCards between Jamaica & Cedarhurst, to compensate for the lack of competent MetroCard-able service in & out of Five Towns.

Next person to suggest ‘car’ is dead to me.

Sounds like you keep getting jobbed by the MTA... Perhaps you should get a new one.

15 hours ago, Lex said:

....Much of no one is looking for a connection of that sort, and knowing that you're in an extremely niche market, take actual steps to plan around that.

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17 hours ago, bwwnyc123 said:

Take Q44SBS to either Q113 or Q114.

Forget that. Too many cars keep gridlocking Rockaway Turnpike & Nassau Expressway.

But a direct (long-distance) bus route will magically address that.

It's indicative of an absolvement of personal responsibility......

Niche market is right..... Public transportation exists for the masses.

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18 hours ago, Axis said:

Just missed a Far Rockaway-bound (A) train here at Fulton Center, because the (4) I was on took too long to leave City Hall & go between City Hall & Fulton Center. Gotta now wait 20+ minutes for the next one.

Once again, I propose for either a one-seat bus ride between Bronx & Five Towns/Far Rockaway, OR cross-honoring Unlimited Rides MetroCards between Jamaica & Cedarhurst, to compensate for the lack of competent MetroCard-able service in & out of Five Towns.

Next person to suggest ‘car’ is dead to me.

Get over your anger man, it’s very much expected to face hassles between getting over two distant parts of the city with lackluster services. Taking the (A) and (4) is still the most logical from my perspective as your ideas (from my view) likely won’t materialize, and the Q113/Q114 is more unreliable. 

As someone who rides the subways for more than an hour one way to get to work, bearing the ride from that far is usually key. otherwise you’ll never get to your destination at all, and may as well go somewhere closer.

 

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Traveling from Bronx to Far Rockaway or Five Towns is a long hard travel either way and there is no market for a one seat ride because not everyone are traveling like that.

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I noticed the interior destination for the Metropolitan Ave bound (M) trains have been changed to show “Middle Village” instead of “Metropolitan Ave” and on the FIND it say “Middle Village-Met Ave” as the last stop. 

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On 8/2/2019 at 8:10 PM, NewFlyer 230 said:

I noticed the interior destination for the Metropolitan Ave bound (M) trains have been changed to show “Middle Village” instead of “Metropolitan Ave” and on the FIND it say “Middle Village-Met Ave” as the last stop. 

Tardy to the party lol. 

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4 hours ago, VIP said:

Tardy to the party lol. 

Lol wait when did they change that? I ride the (M) all the time but I never noticed the interior destination change.

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Some of Jamaica’s R160’s are getting their poles replaced with looped stanchions like the ones on 9798-9802. (9588-9592 has these new looped poles, and no they’re not painted yellow)

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Speaking of Jamaica Yard, 9153-9157 has the exterior wrap (outside of the train) removed with 9172. 

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17 minutes ago, VIP said:

Some of Jamaica’s R160’s are getting their poles replaced with looped stanchions like the ones on 9798-9802. (9588-9592 has these new looped poles, and no they’re not painted yellow)

2213 on the (1) has these poles too.

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12 minutes ago, Around the Horn said:

2213 on the (1) has these poles too.

I don’t Know What’s with the inconsistency, but i guess their putting their state funding into something. 🤷🏽‍♂️

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25 minutes ago, Calvin said:

Speaking of Jamaica Yard, 9153-7 has the exterior wrap (outside of the train) removed with 9172. 

I heard that set was bombed up and the chemical they use to remove spray paint would’ve melted the wrap, so they removed it, same with 9242-9238 

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Is CPW reverse-signalled on the express track? If so, provided you build the other half of that crossover just north of 59th, couldn't you use one level of CPW every time work is needed to cut down on flagging issues?

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33 minutes ago, R68OnBroadway said:

Is CPW reverse-signalled on the express track? If so, provided you build the other half of that crossover just north of 59th, couldn't you use one level of CPW every time work is needed to cut down on flagging issues?

In theory, you could, but then you'd have to deal with 125th-168th Streets, which would probably undo most (if not all) of any meaningful gains, especially if a switch craps out in the process.

It would also be a moot point if the work pertains to both express tracks.

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40 minutes ago, R68OnBroadway said:

Is CPW reverse-signalled on the express track? If so, provided you build the other half of that crossover just north of 59th, couldn't you use one level of CPW every time work is needed to cut down on flagging issues?

That’s actually one of the smarter recommendations I’ve seen on here. 

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1 hour ago, Lex said:

In theory, you could, but then you'd have to deal with 125th-168th Streets, which would probably undo most (if not all) of any meaningful gains, especially if a switch craps out in the process.

It would also be a moot point if the work pertains to both express tracks.

You'd have to signal as far as 145th to account for the switching that would be required but I don't really think you would need to go past that (you could just start the signalling right at 145th or at the junction afterwards). In doing this, you'd instead close one level at a time and have local service run normally while express service would use the express track in the other direction (ex. close upper with sb via local and all nb via sb express and vice versa). This could also go so far as to permit full shutdowns of the (1) and (4) in parts of the Bronx/upper Manhattan as you would be able to provide adequate alternatives. 

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On 8/5/2019 at 11:41 PM, VIP said:

Some of Jamaica’s R160’s are getting their poles replaced with looped stanchions like the ones on 9798-9802. (9588-9592 has these new looped poles, and no they’re not painted yellow)

Lol I guess they are trying to save some money by not painting the poles. The MTA was always horrible at maintaining fleet uniformity. 

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1 hour ago, NewFlyer 230 said:

Lol I guess they are trying to save some money by not painting the poles. The MTA was always horrible at maintaining fleet uniformity. 

9423-9427 also has these looped poles and LED lights now. No floor mats. Looking like Jamaica’s R160’s will be the odd ball R160’s 

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On 8/1/2019 at 9:36 PM, New Flyer Xcelsior said:

No, I mean railfanning thst you can get to easily from the city, whether it be by bus, subway, MNR, LIRR, NJT, PATH, whatever.

LIRR Main Line is quite nice, especially stops like Mineola and New Hyde Park. While I haven't been yet, I think the NJT/Amtrak NEC Line is also quite good, especially around Northern NJ where trains still run quite fast (North Elizabeth, Rahway, etc.)

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2 hours ago, bwwnyc123 said:

I have seen on (R) R46 also have some looped stanchions.

It still surprises me how R46’s received some of these features before all the R160s did. Just reflects the MTA’s incompetence. 

1 hour ago, VIP said:

9423-9427 also has these looped poles and LED lights now. No floor mats. Looking like Jamaica’s R160’s will be the odd ball R160’s 

The MTA is too all over the place for me. If you say you are going to put yellow looped poles, led lights, and floor mats on trains, I expect you to put them on all of them. I mean come on all the NTT’s should have received them by now. But they just select a hand full and then that’s it. They do the same thing when it comes to repainting buses and probably will do it when it comes to deep cleaning these trains. They love to half ass everything and it seems like that’s what happened with the ESI project. Astoria & the 4th Ave stations look great and then every other station is whatever. Some are sloppy looking and or lack some of the features that are suppose to make these stations look aesthetically nice and modern. You can tell they didn’t put as much effort into those stations. I think 23rd street on the 6th Ave line is the worst looking in terms of ESI done stations and it just reflects how poorly the MTA handles things.

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Whatever happened to the passageway between 50th Street (1) and 50th Street (C)(E)? I remember it being reopened after many years back in 2011-2012-ish (there’s even videos on YouTube showing it off), but it’s been closed completely for the past few years. Is there a formal reason for it’s closure? 

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5 hours ago, NewFlyer 230 said:

It still surprises me how R46’s received some of these features before all the R160s did. Just reflects the MTA’s incompetence. 

The MTA is too all over the place for me. If you say you are going to put yellow looped poles, led lights, and floor mats on trains, I expect you to put them on all of them. I mean come on all the NTT’s should have received them by now. But they just select a hand full and then that’s it. They do the same thing when it comes to repainting buses and probably will do it when it comes to deep cleaning these trains. They love to half ass everything and it seems like that’s what happened with the ESI project. Astoria & the 4th Ave stations look great and then every other station is whatever. Some are sloppy looking and or lack some of the features that are suppose to make these stations look aesthetically nice and modern. You can tell they didn’t put as much effort into those stations. I think 23rd street on the 6th Ave line is the worst looking in terms of ESI done stations and it just reflects how poorly the MTA handles things.

Looking back at the R32’s and R62s I see they have a history of inconsistency. 🙄🤦‍♂️

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15 hours ago, NewFlyer 230 said:

It still surprises me how R46’s received some of these features before all the R160s did. Just reflects the MTA’s incompetence. 

The MTA is too all over the place for me. If you say you are going to put yellow looped poles, led lights, and floor mats on trains, I expect you to put them on all of them. I mean come on all the NTT’s should have received them by now. But they just select a hand full and then that’s it. They do the same thing when it comes to repainting buses and probably will do it when it comes to deep cleaning these trains. They love to half ass everything and it seems like that’s what happened with the ESI project. Astoria & the 4th Ave stations look great and then every other station is whatever. Some are sloppy looking and or lack some of the features that are suppose to make these stations look aesthetically nice and modern. You can tell they didn’t put as much effort into those stations. I think 23rd street on the 6th Ave line is the worst looking in terms of ESI done stations and it just reflects how poorly the MTA handles things.

Believe it or not many features that you see on the newer fleets were tested on the older cars first. Offhand I remember speed indicators on a set of IRT cars (9022-23) and at least one car on the J line had an intercom installed in it before the NTT arrived on the scene. Noticed it one late night while riding from Sutphin to Eastern Parkway. Some people were playing with it and the C/R responded to the car itself but the youngsters left the train. When he asked me what happened I identified myself and he pointed out the prototype.  He said that it was a PITA to deal with and after listening to a few comments made by some riders to my C/R, a lady, on our train I understood the problem. Some of the most sexist,  racist,  vile comments are said  anonymously. There also features that were removed from some equipment. How many posters can remember that the side destination signs were illuminated on some SMEE equipment.  When I operated a 5 into the loop at Bowling Green I had to operate the loop switch in my cab so that when I entered the uptown side Dyre was illuminated instead of the Bowling Green signs I had on the downtown platform. Different things have been proposed and/or tested for many years.  RTO crews have learned to adapt to most of these changes so it appears to me that it bothers railfans more than the average person. I remember a person being upset because my 10 car consist wasn't in numerical order. I politely told him that 10 cars was what I was given and as long as I still had 10 cars when I reached the other end I didn't see any problem.  Just my opinion.  Carry on. 

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23 hours ago, R68OnBroadway said:

Is CPW reverse-signalled on the express track? If so, provided you build the other half of that crossover just north of 59th, couldn't you use one level of CPW every time work is needed to cut down on flagging issues?

You could also install switches at 86th using the provisions there. @RR503 has talked about this before.

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