FLX9304 Posted October 9, 2015 Share #276 Posted October 9, 2015 so by contrast, 8090-8119 from ENY will go "back" to JA, and 8120-8124 from ENY will transfer to Charleston. Castleton has 8125-8134 at this time, but will go to its neighbor, CH New Nova LFS assignments:8090-8119, 8399-8480: Jamaica (112)8120-8184: Charleston (65)8185-8251: Castleton (66)8252-8317: Yukon (66)8318-8358: Gun Hill (41)8359-8398: Kingsbridge (40)8481-8503: Queens Village (23)The main XD40 order is finished, and Stengel's order is about done. At this moment, SI is getting their LFS and JA is getting ready to steal ENY'S LFS. Give it some time as the entire order may not finish until 2016 or 2017.As for the rest of the option order, me or someone else may post the data later on as I remember some of that data being posted somewhere on the forums. so no Manhattan depots are listed to get newer buses at this time 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Future ENY OP Posted October 9, 2015 Share #277 Posted October 9, 2015 so by contrast, 8090-8119 from ENY will go "back" to JA, and 8120-8124 from ENY will transfer to Charleston. Castleton has 8125-8134 at this time, but will go to its neighbor, CH so no Manhattan depots are listed to get newer buses at this time Manhattan may get Staten Island's leftovers. Some of their buses may be heading to the main land. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MysteriousBtrain Posted October 9, 2015 Share #278 Posted October 9, 2015 (edited) The option order still hasn't been awarded yet, nor do we know who getting themThe first post of the thread: Last Update 7/27/15 [*]Award 628 standard (revised options) 40 foot buses (NYCT) to either New Flyer or Nova (Active Options for an additional 420 pending. 72 options were exercised and awarded to New Flyer) Oh and apparently there is ANOTHER Nova LFS assignment change shortly after my post of the changes. So far, it seems QV will send all of their LFS to JA. More info on the changes coming soon. Edited October 9, 2015 by MysteriousBtrain 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrmallard Posted October 9, 2015 Share #279 Posted October 9, 2015 the 208 remaning bus is this open ended contact. can they award this at any time to new flyer or nova bus. what is buses are getting repowed and this also exended there life beyond the 12 years. how long does it take a buses to be pull from service and to be for scrap. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MysteriousBtrain Posted October 9, 2015 Share #280 Posted October 9, 2015 the 208 remaning bus is this open ended contact. can they award this at any time to new flyer or nova bus. what is buses are getting repowed and this also exended there life beyond the 12 years. how long does it take a buses to be pull from service and to be for scrap. The 208 buses can get awarded at anytime. Scrap, retired buses would go immediately to ech and wait there to determine their fate. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MysteriousBtrain Posted October 10, 2015 Share #281 Posted October 10, 2015 Ok this should be the official lfs assignment roster as of now: 8090-8119, 8399-8503: Jamaica (135) 8120-8184: Charleston (65) 8185-8251: Castleton (66) 8252-8317: Yukon (66) 8318-8358: Gun Hill (41) 8359-8398: Kingsbridge (40) Only thing that changed is that the QV order was given to Jamaica to make 135 buses in total for that depot. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fresh Pond Posted October 10, 2015 Share #282 Posted October 10, 2015 135 buses? That's like ¾ of their entire fleet right there 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MysteriousBtrain Posted October 10, 2015 Share #283 Posted October 10, 2015 135 buses? That's like ¾ of their entire fleet right thereIt almost takes out the entire fleet of RTS there lol. But doubt that would happen. What would probably happen is that the 1996s would go, followed by the remaining NGs, then most of the 1999s being displaced elsewhere. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrmallard Posted October 10, 2015 Share #284 Posted October 10, 2015 Can i post all new bus orders in last 2 years orders and options. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrmallard Posted October 10, 2015 Share #285 Posted October 10, 2015 Sorry I ment can some post all orders and options for new buses for last 2 years 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MysteriousBtrain Posted October 10, 2015 Share #286 Posted October 10, 2015 (edited) Sorry I ment can some post all orders and options for new buses for last 2 years Every order since 2014 is on the first page of the thread.Anything prior to that try searching the web or something idk if that info is here (anymore) on the forums. Edited October 10, 2015 by MysteriousBtrain 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Q43LTD Posted October 10, 2015 Share #287 Posted October 10, 2015 I see we're skipping #'s. 8403 is on the Q30 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S78 via Hylan Posted October 11, 2015 Share #288 Posted October 11, 2015 If it was not explained already, the Novas are being delivered out of order just as the XD40s were. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Calvin Posted October 11, 2015 Share #289 Posted October 11, 2015 (edited) I see we're skipping #'s. 8403 is on the Q30 Every given depot will be getting their piece of new equipment. What's left now for the LFS is the Bronx and Charleston Edited October 11, 2015 by Calvin 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FLX9304 Posted October 12, 2015 Share #290 Posted October 12, 2015 (edited) this isn't the first time that a depot has more than 3/4 of the fleet. In 1991, OF (later MCH) had 3/4s of the 1990-1991 TMC RTS buses: 8000-8089, 8170-8185, 8270-8292 & 8340-8354 before the latter 3 list (8170-8185, 8270-8292 & 8350-8354) went to MV in 1993 In 1993, CS had 2/3s of the Orion 5s: 173-254, 292-299 & 306-316 in 1999, the 2 older SI depots together had the Orion 5s 6140-6349, with CA getting 6140-6259 the same year, YU had the bulk of MCI 102WDSS 1860-1989 When MTA Bus was born in 2004, 3 years later, CP (formally QSC) started out with just 60 MCIs. it grew to 165 since then. When WF opened in 2003, Orion 7 CNGs 7660-7819 found themselves a home there. Larger fleets do find themselves in one depot Edited October 12, 2015 by FLX9304 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JFK Depot Posted October 14, 2015 Share #291 Posted October 14, 2015 Ok this should be the official lfs assignment roster as of now: 8090-8119, 8399-8503: Jamaica (135) 8120-8184: Charleston (65) 8185-8251: Castleton (66) 8252-8317: Yukon (66) 8318-8358: Gun Hill (41) 8359-8398: Kingsbridge (40) Only thing that changed is that the QV order was given to Jamaica to make 135 buses in total for that depot. QV will be apart of the next order... Given that those 6300-6400 Hybrids will be slated for retirement soon Wouldn't be surprised if they end up with XDs They will have the whole 8000-8089 when the moves are all said and done 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The TransitMan Posted October 14, 2015 Share #292 Posted October 14, 2015 (edited) this isn't the first time that a depot has more than 3/4 of the fleet. In 1991, OF (later MCH) had 3/4s of the 1990-1991 TMC RTS buses: 8000-8089, 8170-8185, 8270-8292 & 8340-8354 before the latter 3 list (8170-8185, 8270-8292 & 8350-8354) went to MV in 1993 In 1993, CS had 2/3s of the Orion 5s: 173-254, 292-299 & 306-316 in 1999, the 2 older SI depots together had the Orion 5s 6140-6349, with CA getting 6140-6259 the same year, YU had the bulk of MCI 102WDSS 1860-1989 When MTA Bus was born in 2004, 3 years later, CP (formally QSC) started out with just 60 MCIs. it grew to 165 since then. When WF opened in 2003, Orion 7 CNGs 7660-7819 found themselves a home there. Larger fleets do find themselves in one depot In 1993, Casey Stengel had #173-232, #291-297 and #299-300. The rest went to Kingsbridge IIRC. QV will be apart of the next order... Given that those 6300-6400 Hybrids will be slated for retirement soon Wouldn't be surprised if they end up with XDs They will have the whole 8000-8089 when the moves are all said and done They "may" get more NGs too. Can't rule that out. Edited October 14, 2015 by The TransitMan 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gotham Bus Co. Posted October 14, 2015 Share #293 Posted October 14, 2015 this isn't the first time that a depot has more than 3/4 of the fleet. Somebody misunderstood.... - Jamaica is not getting 3/4 of the Novas; 3/4 of 414 is over 300 buses, and Jamaica can barely function with 200. - What "Fresh Pond" meant was that Jamaica will be almost 3/4 Nova's. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Via Garibaldi 8 Posted October 15, 2015 Share #294 Posted October 15, 2015 Why is Charleston getting 66 of those buses? Are they losing those buses from 2009 also, or are the extra buses for service expansion? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MysteriousBtrain Posted October 15, 2015 Share #295 Posted October 15, 2015 Why is Charleston getting 66 of those buses? Are they losing those buses from 2009 also, or are the extra buses for service expansion?Charleston will be 100% lfs when all is said and done. The NGs will go to the mainland and replace other buses that need to be retired. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Via Garibaldi 8 Posted October 15, 2015 Share #296 Posted October 15, 2015 (edited) Charleston will be 100% lfs when all is said and done. The NGs will go to the mainland and replace other buses that need to be retired. I see... I just hope Staten Island keeps these new buses up. If they don't, the blame rests squarely on the depots. I was on the island Tuesday night and rode a new Prevost in (2639 IIRC) and new Prevost out (25XX IIRC) and some of those new Prevosts are already taking a beating. Gashes on the side of the bus... We're talking some of the 25XXs and 26XXs too. Unbelievable... As a taxpayer, I have a serious issue with the way Staten Island depots maintain their buses, and apparently others do too. All depots should have the same maintenance standards. Either there are some seriously careless drivers or these buses are just being destroyed by someone within the depot. I can't understand how those buses take such a beating when they've barely been on the road. Edited October 15, 2015 by Via Garibaldi 8 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S78 via Hylan Posted October 15, 2015 Share #297 Posted October 15, 2015 You should do what you always do: Write an email about it. Hopefully, if they get enough complaints, they will start maintaining the newer buses better. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Via Garibaldi 8 Posted October 15, 2015 Share #298 Posted October 15, 2015 (edited) You should do what you always do: Write an email about it. Hopefully, if they get enough complaints, they will start maintaining the newer buses better. I may consider doing just that. It's insane to see these buses which cost a good 500k a piece or more already banged up and it looks like in some cases, someone just takes something and bangs these buses up. I've always noticed that Castleton either gets banged up buses from Yukon for express bus service OR if they get "new buses" there's always a few that are already banged up. I saw a 25XX supposedly new on the X10 this way on the outside. Then what happens is Staten Island gets short on buses and starts having to borrow buses from other depots which just leads to more problems with bus shortages and buses having to be replaced sooner than they should be. Edited October 15, 2015 by Via Garibaldi 8 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gotham Bus Co. Posted October 15, 2015 Share #299 Posted October 15, 2015 You should do what you always do: Write an email about it. Hopefully, if they get enough complaints, they will start maintaining the newer buses better. Maybe they'll start maintaining buses, period. Staten Island maintainers have a reputation for doing all work on overtime and refusing to even look at a bus during their 8-hour "straight-time" shifts. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Via Garibaldi 8 Posted October 15, 2015 Share #300 Posted October 15, 2015 Maybe they'll start maintaining buses, period. Staten Island maintainers have a reputation for doing all work on overtime and refusing to even look at a bus during their 8-hour "straight-time" shifts. I lived on Staten Island for a number of years, and despite what Cait Sith has stated in previous posts about maintenance being better there, I don't buy it. Management at the depots in question has a history of doing the bare minimum in all areas, and I don't think very much has changed. The buses look a little better (they should considering how many new buses they're getting) and service is a little better, but overall I don't think management is that much better. I look at the buses from 2013 that Charleston has and they look in worse shape than some of the buses from Bus which are MUCH older. There's something very wrong with that picture, and I certainly don't understand why maintenance isn't uniform across the board. I wish someone could give more insight into this (and I say this seriously). 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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