MHV184 Posted July 17, 2019 Share #4101 Posted July 17, 2019 14 minutes ago, Cait Sith said: The XDE40s are projected to be direct replacements for the vast majority of the 2004-2005 Orion VII Hybrid batch. But of course, things can change, they could go to The Bronx, but I don't really see that happening. And no, not every NG will be displaced from The Bronx. With 9510 in the system where do you think that bus will go? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Around the Horn Posted July 18, 2019 Share #4102 Posted July 18, 2019 22 hours ago, Cait Sith said: Also, some spec details have come out for the new order of XDE40s....which includes plug-style rear doors(like 5311). It appears that they are making preparations for all-door boarding for the future. Have they by any chance listed what hybrid system they'll have? (I'm personally hoping for BAE) 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trainfan22 Posted July 18, 2019 Share #4103 Posted July 18, 2019 (edited) I wonder why the TA didn't demo an Nova Hybrid and an Nova all electric bus, would have been nice to see Nova hybrids in this city in addition to the XDEs... Edited July 18, 2019 by trainfan22 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JeremiahC99 Posted July 18, 2019 Share #4104 Posted July 18, 2019 58 minutes ago, trainfan22 said: I wonder why the TA didn't demo an Nova Hybrid and an Nova all electric bus, would have been nice to see Nova hybrids in this city in addition to the XDEs... New Flyer had a better price point than Nova, plus they were able to get the buses in faster than Nova. However, regardless, the platform, LFS, is qualified to be in the city, so honestly, it didn’t really stop them from being considered. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cait Sith Posted July 18, 2019 Share #4105 Posted July 18, 2019 1 hour ago, Around the Horn said: Have they by any chance listed what hybrid system they'll have? (I'm personally hoping for BAE) Not yet, but from what I gather, it might be split... 1 hour ago, trainfan22 said: I wonder why the TA didn't demo an Nova Hybrid and an Nova all electric bus, would have been nice to see Nova hybrids in this city in addition to the XDEs... See below. 4 minutes ago, JeremiahC99 said: New Flyer had a better price point than Nova, plus they were able to get the buses in faster than Nova. However, regardless, the platform, LFS, is qualified to be in the city, so honestly, it didn’t really stop them from being considered. Nope. That's not the reason at all. Nova has had problems meeting with delivery schedules. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JeremiahC99 Posted July 18, 2019 Share #4106 Posted July 18, 2019 Just now, Cait Sith said: Nope. That's not the reason at all. Nova has had problems meeting with delivery schedules. Damn. I keep getting that one wrong. Also, at this point, with Nova having a delivery problem, can’t they give bus manufacturers monetary incentives to encourage them to meet the delivery schedules, and also a penalty for being late? I feel that Nova in particular is not being punished for their tardiness, and they still getting small parts of orders that they still have problems getting delivery on time. Maybe a certain dollar amount incentive for meeting each milestone early by up to 60 days and a slightly higher fine each day a certain milestone is delayed past a certain deadline This should motivate the companies to meet the delivery schedules faster than get them in service quicker for paying passengers to enjoy. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cait Sith Posted July 19, 2019 Share #4107 Posted July 19, 2019 4 hours ago, JeremiahC99 said: Damn. I keep getting that one wrong. Also, at this point, with Nova having a delivery problem, can’t they give bus manufacturers monetary incentives to encourage them to meet the delivery schedules, and also a penalty for being late? I feel that Nova in particular is not being punished for their tardiness, and they still getting small parts of orders that they still have problems getting delivery on time. Maybe a certain dollar amount incentive for meeting each milestone early by up to 60 days and a slightly higher fine each day a certain milestone is delayed past a certain deadline This should motivate the companies to meet the delivery schedules faster than get them in service quicker for paying passengers to enjoy. Monetary incentives won't help when manufacturers have other customers to tend to. For example, the 8090-8503 batch was delayed by months because of some pretty significant issues arising with SEPTA's batch. It came to a point where the MTA decided to change the rear setup to SEPTA's so that production and delivery can come faster. We have penalized manufacturers before, most notably with Orion, when we got 4701 and 4702 as free buses. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IAlam Posted July 21, 2019 Share #4108 Posted July 21, 2019 I really hope Nova'a can pull through in the future. New Flyer's buses aren't as great as they look, and they're slowly start to resemble Gillig's to me. I guess they focus on quantity over quality these days. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4P3607 Posted July 21, 2019 Share #4109 Posted July 21, 2019 What's the status on 3591? That was the bus that crashed into a bagel shop in Woodside a few months ago. It seems to be still listed as active. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cait Sith Posted July 21, 2019 Share #4110 Posted July 21, 2019 1 hour ago, 4P3607 said: What's the status on 3591? That was the bus that crashed into a bagel shop in Woodside a few months ago. It seems to be still listed as active. It's been at Zerega for a while. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WestFarms36 Posted July 21, 2019 Share #4111 Posted July 21, 2019 Does anyone have an update on 5477, ever since it had that accident in November, the bus has been out of service and 8 months later the bus still is not back. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
XcelsiorBoii4888 Posted July 21, 2019 Share #4112 Posted July 21, 2019 (edited) 2 hours ago, IAlam said: I really hope Nova'a can pull through in the future. New Flyer's buses aren't as great as they look, and they're slowly start to resemble Gillig's to me. I guess they focus on quantity over quality these days. How many plants do they have? Should they consider another one to speed up future deliveries? I think New Flyer has like 3. Edited July 21, 2019 by XcelsiorBoii4888 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cait Sith Posted July 21, 2019 Share #4113 Posted July 21, 2019 3 minutes ago, XcelsiorBoii4888 said: How many plants do they have? Should they consider another one to speed up future deliveries? I think New Flyer has like 3. New York and Canada. New Flyer has two in the States and one in Canada(I think). 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theaveragejoe Posted July 21, 2019 Share #4114 Posted July 21, 2019 (edited) 1 hour ago, Cait Sith said: New York and Canada. New Flyer has two in the States and one in Canada(I think). New Flyer has 3 plants in the USA and one in Canada. Now gonna change to 2 in Canada and 5 in the USA with the purchase of Alexander Dennis and opening of Jamestown NY plant. Im also not counting the MCI plants and Arboc plant which would add another 3 plants. Total Plants for New Flyer Group Canada New Flyer Winnipeg Manitoba MCI Winnipeg Manitoba Alexander Dennis chassis plant Vaughan Ontario USA New Flyer St Cloud Minnesota Crookston Minnesota Anniston Alabama Jamestown New York MCI Pembina North Dakota Arboc Middlebury Indiana Alexander Dennis Nappanee Indiana Edited July 21, 2019 by theaveragejoe 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cait Sith Posted July 21, 2019 Share #4115 Posted July 21, 2019 2 minutes ago, theaveragejoe said: New Flyer has 3 plants in the USA and one in Canada. Now gonna change to 2 in Canada and 4 in the USA with the purchase of Alexander Dennis. Im also not counting the MCI plants and Arboc plants which would add another 3 plants Three? I didn't think the Jamestown plant was a full blown plant. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theaveragejoe Posted July 21, 2019 Share #4116 Posted July 21, 2019 6 minutes ago, Cait Sith said: Three? I didn't think the Jamestown plant was a full blown plant. St Cloud Minnesota Crookston Minnesota Anniston Alabama 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theaveragejoe Posted July 21, 2019 Share #4117 Posted July 21, 2019 19 minutes ago, Cait Sith said: Three? I didn't think the Jamestown plant was a full blown plant. Jamestown is listed on NFI site as a manufacturing plant. Looks like they want to do this so they can get more NY state orders to compete with Volvo (Nova/Prevost) on NY state orders. I would not be shocked if other NFI brands would be partly built here as well. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cait Sith Posted July 22, 2019 Share #4118 Posted July 22, 2019 9 minutes ago, theaveragejoe said: Jamestown is listed on NFI site as a manufacturing plant. Looks like they want to do this so they can get more NY state orders to compete with Volvo (Nova/Prevost) on NY state orders. I would not be shocked if other NFI brands would be partly built here as well. I forgot all about the plant they got from NABI, oh man lmao. Last I read, the Jamestown plant was a plant for them to build parts, not assembly of buses. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theaveragejoe Posted July 22, 2019 Share #4119 Posted July 22, 2019 3 minutes ago, Cait Sith said: I forgot all about the plant they got from NABI, oh man lmao. Last I read, the Jamestown plant was a plant for them to build parts, not assembly of buses. https://www.newflyer.com/locations/ As this its listed as manufacturing 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theaveragejoe Posted July 22, 2019 Share #4120 Posted July 22, 2019 3 minutes ago, theaveragejoe said: https://www.newflyer.com/locations/ As this its listed as manufacturing Looks like it will be used to make parts. Wonder if they will also make it a finishing centre as well to win more NY state orders 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill from Maspeth Posted July 23, 2019 Share #4121 Posted July 23, 2019 On 7/21/2019 at 5:54 PM, WestFarms36 said: Does anyone have an update on 5477, ever since it had that accident in November, the bus has been out of service and 8 months later the bus still is not back. Sometimes a bus is held in its' collision state by orders of the legal dept. if litigation is involved. Not saying this is the reason why. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Express Bus Operator Posted July 24, 2019 Share #4122 Posted July 24, 2019 Bus #7649 out of FB unwrapped and was on the B44 and B41 Today.......... 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Transit Posted July 24, 2019 Share #4123 Posted July 24, 2019 2 minutes ago, Flatbush SBS Duece said: Bus #7649 out of FB unwrapped and was on the B44 and B41 Today.......... Well aware, last time it ran the B49. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JeremiahC99 Posted July 24, 2019 Share #4124 Posted July 24, 2019 50 minutes ago, Flatbush SBS Duece said: Bus #7649 out of FB unwrapped and was on the B44 and B41 Today.......... I reported on that last week in the repainted thread. I saw it on the B46 SBS from the mall. Did it have that teal triangle in the front of the bus for SBS all door boarding when it ran on the B41 and B44? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Around the Horn Posted July 24, 2019 Share #4125 Posted July 24, 2019 Where did 6144 come from? I rode it on the M15 SBS today and the bus is filthy. Trash on the floor and writing on the seats. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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