Planned Subway Service Changes

[paulrivera]

There's even a  GO this weekend, and they hardly ever have those down there other than the occasional track change at the stops  . I think they're using this time to demolish Nassau and Atlantic...

 

Do they even call Staten Island service disruptions "GO's"?

[Union Tpke]

There's even a  GO this weekend, and they hardly ever have those down there other than the occasional track change at the stops  . I think they're using this time to demolish Nassau and Atlantic...

 

Do they even call Staten Island service disruptions "GO's"?

 

If that is the case, then someone should be there to document it.

[P3F]

If that is the case, then someone should be there to document it.

The problem is, if they are demolishing the stations, the time of demolition is unknown to most people, and nobody is willing to wait there for the entire length of the G/O (1 AM Saturday to 4 AM Monday)...

[paulrivera]

The problem is, if they are demolishing the stations, the time of demolition is unknown to most people, and nobody is willing to wait there for the entire length of the G/O (1 AM Saturday to 4 AM Monday)...

Count me out too. From my neck of the woods it's easier for me to get to Poughkeepsie than Staten Island, especially when the and the aren't running to get me from the Bronx to the Ferry.

[P3F]

Count me out too. From my neck of the woods it's easier for me to get to Poughkeepsie than Staten Island, especially when the and the aren't running to get me from the Bronx to the Ferry.

For me, the problem isn't so much getting there, as it is not knowing if or when the stations are to be demolished.

[trainfan22]

The problem is, if they are demolishing the stations, the time of demolition is unknown to most people, and nobody is willing to wait there for the entire length of the G/O (1 AM Saturday to 4 AM Monday)...

They would most likely doing the construction during the day on both Saturday & Sunday and stop at night cause of noise.

[Lawrence St]

I actually wonder if we will ever see a 7th Avenue/Lex Ave suspension in lower manhattan for work.

[Lance]

So, with last weekend's Jerome Ave shutdown, they really should've run the same service pattern they did the last time this service change came up: 24/7 train service to Utica/New Lots Av. The amount of phantom trains on White Plains Rd this weekend, despite GO signs stating there wasn't any service at all last weekend. I'm aware of why those trains were running as trains, but if there is no way for the trains to display the correct route, either the signs need to be turned off or the GO needs to reflect the availability of the route and destination in the AAS. On another note, this route should've been labelled as a since the route from E 180 Street to Utica Av has much more in common with the than it does with the . Passenger confusion is a thing and can really hold up service when everyone thinks the train is going to Woodlawn since it's labelled as a .

[Lawrence St]

Who knows, maybe they will change it after next weekend when this G.O shows up again. But remember, they had 4 weeks to fix that via Broadway program...

[2 Train Master]

So, with last weekend's Jerome Ave shutdown, they really should've run the same service pattern they did the last time this service change came up: 24/7 train service to Utica/New Lots Av. The amount of phantom trains on White Plains Rd this weekend, despite GO signs stating there wasn't any service at all last weekend. I'm aware of why those trains were running as trains, but if there is no way for the trains to display the correct route, either the signs need to be turned off or the GO needs to reflect the availability of the route and destination in the AAS. On another note, this route should've been labelled as a since the route from E 180 Street to Utica Av has much more in common with the than it does with the . Passenger confusion is a thing and can really hold up service when everyone thinks the train is going to Woodlawn since it's labelled as a .

I agree I've never seen a GO like this that was stupid. And the crazy thing is the has had a complete shutdown before IIRC in the recent years therefor the plan should had been service 24/7.

[RestrictOnTheHanger]

So, with last weekend's Jerome Ave shutdown, they really should've run the same service pattern they did the last time this service change came up: 24/7 train service to Utica/New Lots Av. The amount of phantom trains on White Plains Rd this weekend, despite GO signs stating there wasn't any service at all last weekend. I'm aware of why those trains were running as trains, but if there is no way for the trains to display the correct route, either the signs need to be turned off or the GO needs to reflect the availability of the route and destination in the AAS. On another note, this route should've been labelled as a since the route from E 180 Street to Utica Av has much more in common with the than it does with the . Passenger confusion is a thing and can really hold up service when everyone thinks the train is going to Woodlawn since it's labelled as a .

The service change website for the weekend of March 25th now has the to Utica/New Lots instead of the to E180. Looks like the woke up and used their brain

[CenSin]

Has anyone noticed that connectivity sucks for the winter plan? The misses the in the Bronx by a station. the misses the by 1 station. The misses the by 2 stations (could have made Bowery a more accessible alternative to Grand Street). The misses the by 4 stations in Brooklyn. The misses the by 3 stations. The misses the by 1 station; they could have turned trains at Hoyt–Schermerhorn Streets.

 

They could have gotten away with not running the and used those tracks purely for train storage; the , , , and adequately covers for the . The is also pointless. I’d eliminate the and run the up to 96 Street instead.
 

Looks like the woke up and used their brain

The MTA as a collective has only 1 brain.

[Around the Horn]

 The misses the by 1 station; they could have turned trains at Hoyt–Schermerhorn Streets.

 

They could have gotten away with not running the and used those tracks purely for train storage; the , , , and adequately covers for the . The is also pointless. I’d eliminate the and run the up to 96 Street instead.

One thing you have to remember here is that while the service on the map may be what portions passengers can ride on, that doesn't mean that trains are necessarily terminating there. For example, you mention the , and : those trains will run on the Broadway elevated not in service to keep tracks clear. The can't turn at Hoyt-Schermerhorn because its going to run via Culver express and keep those tracks clear. Same thing for the and Astoria.

[Union Tpke]

   Manhattan-bound platform at 104 St is closed for renovation

All times, until Summer 2017

Manhattan-bound 104 St platform will close for renovation until Summer 2017.

Consider nearby 111 St for  service or Woodhaven Blvd for   service.

Travel Alternatives
For service to this station, take the  or  to Woodhaven Blvd and transfer to a 
Jamaica Center-bound  or .

For service from this station, take the  to 111 St and transfer to a Manhattan-bound . 
Or, take the Q56 bus instead. Transfer between   trains and buses at Woodhaven Blvd.

Note: Jamaica Center-bound  trains skip 104 St from 5:30 PM to 6:30 PM weekdays, take the  instead.

[paulrivera]

 No trains between 59 St-Columbus Circle Broadway-Lafayette St and Stillwell Av 

   trains and  free shuttle buses provide alternate service
Weekend, 11:30 PM Fri to 5 AM Mon, Mar 31 - Apr 3

 

 • Trains are rerouted via the  local to/from W 4 St, and via the  to/from 2 Av, the last stop.

* trains replace the  in Brooklyn between Atlantic Av-Barclays Ctr and Stillwell Av.

( and)  trains provide alternate service at 47-50 Sts, 42 St-Bryant Park and 34 St-Herald Sq. (7 Av Station will be closed during this time)

 

I liked the express to Chambers/WTC better, but since the is running via 6th Avenue I guess they needed a second local on 8th Avenue more than a second express.

Edited March 16, 2017 by paulrivera

[Lawrence St]

Wait are trains running between Broadway and Stillwell or what?

[paulrivera]

Wait are trains running between Broadway and Stillwell or what?

runs between 205 St and 2 Av-Houston only via CPW Exp, 8 Av Local, filling in for the E.

runs via West End, replacing the D.

runs via 6 Av Local and 63 St tunnel, filling in indirectly for the D.

Edited March 16, 2017 by paulrivera

[Daniel The Cool]

 No trains between 59 St-Columbus Circle Broadway-Lafayette St and Stillwell Av 

   trains and  free shuttle buses provide alternate service

Weekend, 11:30 PM Fri to 5 AM Mon, Mar 31 - Apr 3

 

 • Trains are rerouted via the  local to/from W 4 St, and via the  to/from 2 Av, the last stop.

* trains replace the  in Brooklyn between Atlantic Av-Barclays Ctr and Stillwell Av.

( and)  trains provide alternate service at 47-50 Sts, 42 St-Bryant Park and 34 St-Herald Sq. (7 Av Station will be closed during this time)

 

I liked the express to Chambers/WTC better, but since the is running via 6th Avenue I guess they needed a second local on 8th Avenue more than a second express.

 

Keep in mind, when the Train ran to Chambers Street via 8th Avenue Express, the and Trains were sent via the between West 4th Street and Jay Street which was why turning at Chambers Street worked that case.

[BreeddekalbL]

and i guess they are closing the coney island terminal platforms?

[Wallyhorse]

runs between 205 St and 2 Av-Houston only via CPW Exp, 8 Av Local, filling in for the E.

runs via West End, replacing the D.

runs via 6 Av Local and 63 St tunnel, filling in indirectly for the D.

I presume they are doing work on the 53rd Street tunnel and Sea Beach this weekend.

 

This is where it would have helped to have extended the 63rd Street Tunnel to connect to the 8th Avenue Line, allowing such trains to join the line at Columbus Circle when needed or even have a line go to Queens via 63rd.

[pjbr40]

how? oh wait, they haven't gotten their coffee  yet

 

 

From 11:45 p.m. Friday, March 17 to 5:00 a.m. Monday, March 20, Coney Island-Stillwell Av bound trains run express from Atlantic Av-Barclays Ctr to 59 St. 

Edited March 17, 2017 by pjbr40

[Daniel The Cool]

The Weekend of April 8th has alot of Shuttle Buses.

 

 service operates between Church Av and Bedford-Nostrand Avs.

 Buses make all  station stops between Bedford-Nostrand Avs and Court Sq.
  • Transfer between  trains and  buses at Bedford-Nostrand Avs

 

 

 No trains between Crescent St and Jamaica Center

 trains and  free shuttle buses provide alternate service
Weekend, 3:45 AM Sat to 10 PM Sun, Apr 8 - 9

 Service operates between Broad St and Crescent St.

 Buses make all  stops between Crescent St and 121 St and connect with the 
 at Jamaica-Van Wyck.

 

 

 No trains between Myrtle Av and Metropolitan Av

 Free shuttle buses provide alternate service
Weekends, 11:45 PM Fri to 5 AM Mon, Mar 31 - Apr 3  •  Apr 7 - 10

 service operates between Essex St and Myrtle Av and via the  to/from
   Broadway Junction, days and evenings.

Travel Alternatives
 Buses operate between Myrtle Av and Metropolitan Av, making all stops.
  • Transfer between trains and  buses at Myrtle Av.

 

 No trains between Utica Av and New Lots Av

 Free shuttle buses provide alternate service
Late Nights, 11:30 PM Fri to 5 AM Mon, Apr 7 - 10

 service operates between Woodlawn and Utica Av.
  • Trains run local in both directions between Atlantic Av-Barclays Ctr and Utica Av all weekend

 

 

 No trains between E 180 St and Dyre Av 

 Free shuttle buses provide alternate service
Weekend, 11:45 PM Fri to 5 AM Mon, Apr 7 - 10   

 service operates between Flatbush Av and E 180 St, and via the  to/from 241 St.

[Daniel The Cool]

Don't mean to double post but it looks like they changed the and Train G.O for next weekend from Trains going to East 180th Street replacing Train service to No Trains running at all with Trains being extended to Brooklyn. 

 

 No trains running
 trains replace the  in Brooklyn and Manhattan

 trains and free shuttle buses provide alternate service in the Bronx
Weekend, 11:30 PM Fri to 1 AM Mon, Mar 24 - 27

 trains make all  stops between New Lots Av/Utica Av* and 149 St-Grand Concourse.

 Buses operate along two routes:
     1. Between 149 St-Grand Concourse and 161 St-Yankee Stadium 
     2. Between Bedford Pk Blvd and Woodlawn, stopping at Mosholu Pkwy

Travel Alternatives
In Brooklyn and Manhattan, take the  instead

[Lawrence St]

Yes...the reason why is because there's no train to East 180th program anymore.

[Wallyhorse]

 

Don't mean to double post but it looks like they changed the and Train G.O for next weekend from Trains going to East 180th Street replacing Train service to No Trains running at all with Trains being extended to Brooklyn. 

 

 No trains running

 trains replace the  in Brooklyn and Manhattan

 trains and free shuttle buses provide alternate service in the Bronx

Weekend, 11:30 PM Fri to 1 AM Mon, Mar 24 - 27

 

 trains make all  stops between New Lots Av/Utica Av* and 149 St-Grand Concourse.

 

 Buses operate along two routes:

     1. Between 149 St-Grand Concourse and 161 St-Yankee Stadium 

     2. Between Bedford Pk Blvd and Woodlawn, stopping at Mosholu Pkwy

 

Travel Alternatives

In Brooklyn and Manhattan, take the  instead

 

This is one of the reasons I would be looking long-term at extending Phase 2 across 125 with a connection to the 8th Avenue line at St. Nicholas Avenue.  That way, in such a situation with the you could have either the or or both be extended to run with the on the Concourse Line to Bedford Park Boulevard (aside from having such a line run to 125-Broadway to connect to the ).