Wallyhorse Posted January 20, 2016 Share #776 Posted January 20, 2016 So you want to suspend a 10-car train to run a 4-car (maybe a maximum of 8 cars at most) train? Why should they do that? Less confusion. While the normally doesn't run on weekends, it does stop along the same places the was between 71st-Continental and Broadway-Lafayette under normal circumstances. The only difference would be the would have been extended to Jamaica Center to replace the there, otherwise, it would have run its normal weekday route and given Broadway-Brooklyn riders midtown service and no transfers. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daniel The Cool Posted January 20, 2016 Share #777 Posted January 20, 2016 Less confusion. While the normally doesn't run on weekends, it does stop along the same places the was between 71st-Continental and Broadway-Lafayette under normal circumstances. The only difference would be the would have been extended to Jamaica Center to replace the there, otherwise, it would have run its normal weekday route and given Broadway-Brooklyn riders midtown service and no transfers. Please stop 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fresh Pond Posted January 20, 2016 Share #778 Posted January 20, 2016 Less confusion. While the normally doesn't run on weekends, it does stop along the same places the was between 71st-Continental and Broadway-Lafayette under normal circumstances. The only difference would be the would have been extended to Jamaica Center to replace the there, otherwise, it would have run its normal weekday route and given Broadway-Brooklyn riders midtown service and no transfers. They aren't gonna run a 4 car train in service in any way, shape, or form on Queens Blvd 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wallyhorse Posted January 20, 2016 Share #779 Posted January 20, 2016 They aren't gonna run a 4 car train in service in any way, shape, or form on Queens Blvd Obviously, if it were running on QB, the would be eight cars instead of four. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CenSin Posted January 20, 2016 Share #780 Posted January 20, 2016 (edited) Less confusion. What happened to the “return to the days where people are rewarded for paying attention and actually knowing the system?” But either way, it’s just trading confusion in one part of the system to some other part; the confusion hasn’t actually been lessened. While I’m sure you see the Middle Village/Jamaica line as some grand trunk in Brooklyn that deserves to be glorified by spreading its service to Queens Boulevard, Central Park West, and Bay Ridge, the limitations of the line means it should be confined as much as possible. Letting the touch Queens Boulevard on weekdays is already very generous of the MTA. Edited January 20, 2016 by CenSin 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wallyhorse Posted January 20, 2016 Share #781 Posted January 20, 2016 What happened to the “return to the days where people are rewarded for paying attention and actually knowing the system?” LOL!! Yes, I do a lot of things that would be confusing to some but reward those who pay attention, however, this particular case was a rare case where doing what the did was more confusing than what I would have done. But either way, it’s just trading confusion in one part of the system to some other part; the confusion hasn’t actually been lessened. While I’m sure you see the Middle Village/Jamaica line as some grand trunk in Brooklyn that deserves to be glorified by spreading its service to Queens Boulevard, Central Park West, and Bay Ridge, the limitations of the line means it should be confined as much as possible. Letting the touch Queens Boulevard on weekdays is already very generous of the MTA. Lesser of two evils in this case. Having the run its normal weekday route on a weekend (and obviously as an eight-car train) extended to Jamaica Center would have under the circumstances made more sense. In fact, I would have actually had BOTH the and run to Jamaica Center in place of the to maximize service there and cut delays overall elsewhere. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fresh Pond Posted January 21, 2016 Share #782 Posted January 21, 2016 Obviously, if it were running on QB, the would be eight cars instead of four. That costs money. You gonna need conductors for them trains. You gotta pay the conductors. You gonna need more trains. You gotta pay train operators for those extra trains. The runs OPTO on weekends for a reason. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wallyhorse Posted January 21, 2016 Share #783 Posted January 21, 2016 That costs money. You gonna need conductors for them trains. You gotta pay the conductors. You gonna need more trains. You gotta pay train operators for those extra trains. The runs OPTO on weekends for a reason. Since in this scenario the would be suspended, couldn't you have used such who normally work on the ? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CenSin Posted January 21, 2016 Share #784 Posted January 21, 2016 This thread is kind of drifting from it’s official topic…. That, and I don’t even know the context of this conversation anymore. What is serving World Trade Center if the is taking over for the ? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
P3F Posted January 21, 2016 Share #785 Posted January 21, 2016 It's not like WTC is even discrete... Use Chambers. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lance Posted January 21, 2016 Share #786 Posted January 21, 2016 This thread is kind of drifting from it’s official topic…. Agreed. If you'd like, please continue the conversation in the appropriate thread. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Javier Posted January 21, 2016 Share #787 Posted January 21, 2016 At the end of January, the is going to be split in two sections: From 34 St to 42 St. From Queensboro to Flushing - Main St. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fresh Pond Posted January 21, 2016 Share #788 Posted January 21, 2016 Since in this scenario the would be suspended, couldn't you have used such who normally work on the ? No you can't. It doesn't work like that. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S78 via Hylan Posted January 22, 2016 Share #789 Posted January 22, 2016 Get a load of this: No trains between Kings Hwy and 57 St-7 Av trains and free shuttle buses provide alternate service Weekends, 11:30 PM Fri to 5 AM Mon, Jan 29 - Feb 1 • Feb 5 - 8 service operates between Kings Hwy and Stillwell Av. Local buses make all stops between Kings Hwy and Atlantic Av-Barclays Ctr. Express buses operate between Kings Hwy and Atlantic Av-Barclays Ctr, stopping at Newkirk Plaza, Church Av and Prospect Park. Travel Alternatives For service between Kings Hwy and Atlantic Av-Barclays Ctr, take a bus. For service between Atlantic Av-Barclays Ctr and 57 St-7 Av, take the or . • Transfer between trains and buses at Kings Hwy. • Transfer between buses and trains at Atlantic Av-Barclays Ctr. Show Shuttle Bus Stops Alternate travel note: For service between Stillwell Av and Manhattan/Downtown Brooklyn, take the or . This service change affects one or more ADA accessible stations. Please call 511 for help with planning your trip. If you are deaf or hard of hearing, use your preferred relay service provider or the free 711 relay. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MysteriousBtrain Posted January 22, 2016 Share #790 Posted January 22, 2016 ^^^ Might as well suspend the then or extend the like in the 2000's. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wallyhorse Posted January 22, 2016 Share #791 Posted January 22, 2016 ^^^ Might as well suspend the then or extend the like in the 2000's. Extending the and running it through Coney Island might be the most logical move here. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Around the Horn Posted January 22, 2016 Share #792 Posted January 22, 2016 (edited) Extending the and running it through Coney Island might be the most logical move here. You can't. Although both tracks are connected to the Brighton, only one is in service. Track 1 is OOS due to clearance problems so 's would essentially single track between X-910 (the switch CI bound 's use to go from E1 to E2) and X-972 (the switch Manhattan bound s use to go from A3 to A4). In layman's terms, trains share one track from just after W8 to just after Stillwell. Not a good idea. Edited January 22, 2016 by Around the Horn 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CenSin Posted January 22, 2016 Share #793 Posted January 22, 2016 You can't. Although both tracks are connected to the Brighton, only one is in service. Track 1 is OOS due to clearance problems so 's would essentially single track between X-910 (the switch CI bound 's use to go from E1 to E2) and X-972 (the switch Manhattan bound s use to go from A3 to A4). In layman's terms, trains share one track from just after W8 to just after Stillwell. Not a good idea. Really? I’ve been on trains that used the Brighton Line in emergencies. The train operator would walk down the length of the platform along track 1 and we’d just go. I’m sure it’s possible to do the reverse and have trains from the Brighton Line use track 1 for through service. Trains from the Sea Beach Line would use track 4 for through service, leaving tracks 2 and 3 unused. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Around the Horn Posted January 23, 2016 Share #794 Posted January 23, 2016 Really? I’ve been on trains that used the Brighton Line in emergencies. The train operator would walk down the length of the platform along track 1 and we’d just go. I’m sure it’s possible to do the reverse and have trains from the Brighton Line use track 1 for through service. Trains from the Sea Beach Line would use track 4 for through service, leaving tracks 2 and 3 unused. I may have gotten the track number wrong. Dougherty's book is confusing in that regard. He says that Track 2 is OOS after signal X-978 however his map shows X-978 on track 1. Regardless, as of November 2015, when the book was published, the lead from Sea Beach to Brighton is OOS. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
j express Posted January 23, 2016 Share #795 Posted January 23, 2016 The can use the platform for through service at Coney Island. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BM5 via Woodhaven Posted January 25, 2016 Share #796 Posted January 25, 2016 Just a heads up, for those who didn't know http://web.mta.info/nyct/service/planned_servChanges_46_Jan2015.htm 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MysteriousBtrain Posted January 25, 2016 Share #797 Posted January 25, 2016 Just a heads up, for those who didn't know http://web.mta.info/nyct/service/planned_servChanges_46_Jan2015.htm It didn't close today, but it will tomorrow. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BM5 via Woodhaven Posted January 25, 2016 Share #798 Posted January 25, 2016 (edited) It didn't close today, but it will tomorrow. I know, I was just posting it up beforehand so whoever didn't know knows. Edited January 25, 2016 by BM5 via Woodhaven 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Javier Posted January 26, 2016 Share #799 Posted January 26, 2016 No trains between Kings Hwy and 57 St-7 Av trains and free shuttle buses provide alternate service Weekends, 11:30 PM Fri to 5 AM Mon, Jan 29 - Feb 1 • Feb 5 - 8 service operates between Kings Hwy and Stillwell Av. Local buses make all stops between Kings Hwy and Atlantic Av-Barclays Ctr. Express buses operate between Kings Hwy and Atlantic Av-Barclays Ctr. Travel Alternatives For service between Kings Hwy and Atlantic Av-Barclays Ctr, take a bus. For service between Atlantic Av-Barclays Ctr and 57 St-7 Av, take the or . • Transfer between trains and buses at Kings Hwy. • Transfer between buses and trains at Atlantic Av-Barclays Ctr. Show Shuttle Bus Stops Alternate travel note: For service between Stillwell Av and Manhattan/Downtown Brooklyn, take the or . Is this to clean up the snow that's on the express tracks or just maintenance? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S78 via Hylan Posted January 26, 2016 Share #800 Posted January 26, 2016 ^I already posted that G.O. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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