Q43LTD Posted March 19, 2016 Share #851 Posted March 19, 2016 (edited) Not that this is happening anytime soon, but this article talks about what would happen when Myrtle Av closes next year: http://www.ny1.com/nyc/all-boroughs/transit/2016/03/17/m-train-service-to-shut-down-in-parts-of-brooklyn-and-queens-next-summer.html I wonder in the interim will and trains have peak express service extended to Broadway Junction? Edited March 19, 2016 by Q43LTD 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MysteriousBtrain Posted March 19, 2016 Share #852 Posted March 19, 2016 I wonder in the interim will and trains have peak express service extended to Broadway Junction?All and services will be local west of the junction to help out those riders; when the is rerouted to the junction peak service will be cut by 25%. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wallyhorse Posted March 19, 2016 Share #853 Posted March 19, 2016 Atlantic Av in itself is difficult (not impossible) to completely strip since many of the remaining girders hold up what's left standing now. Ironically, that is why that could be re-built to four or six tracks. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lance Posted March 20, 2016 Share #854 Posted March 20, 2016 But what would you gain with a six-tracked Atlantic Av? Sure, you have the capacity for a couple of one-off reroutes, but the fact remains that most of that structure was basically abandoned with the closure of the Fulton St elevated back in '56. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
P3F Posted March 20, 2016 Share #855 Posted March 20, 2016 At the very least, it would allow the Canarsie line to terminate trains there for capacity purposes. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Metro CSW Posted March 20, 2016 Share #856 Posted March 20, 2016 At the very least, it would allow the Canarsie line to terminate trains there for capacity purposes.Terminate at Atlantic Avenue? And what because the way I see it, it will lower the headways South of Atlantic Avenue. Why fix this route with unneeded short-turns when the service increases in recent years are working out so well? Sent from my SM-G920P using Tapatalk 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Around the Horn Posted March 20, 2016 Share #857 Posted March 20, 2016 Terminate at Atlantic Avenue? And what because the way I see it, it will lower the headways South of Atlantic Avenue. Why fix this route with unneeded short-turns when the service increases in recent years are working out so well? Sent from my SM-G920P using Tapatalk You could always extend the existing Myrtle-Wyckoff short turns and provide more service to Halsey and Bushwick-Aberdeen. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Metro CSW Posted March 20, 2016 Share #858 Posted March 20, 2016 The short turns (ONLY NINE A WEEKDAY) are only every 12 minutes during peak hours out of the 3 to 4 minutes every train.... Not sure, if it will make a difference on the route itself. As Lance said before, those extra platforms were abandoned for a reason. Sent from my SM-G920P using Tapatalk 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Around the Horn Posted March 20, 2016 Share #859 Posted March 20, 2016 The short turns (ONLY NINE A WEEKDAY) are only every 12 minutes during peak hours out of the 3 to 4 minutes every train.... Not sure, if it will make a difference on the route itself. As Lance said before, those extra platforms were abandoned for a reason. Sent from my SM-G920P using Tapatalk I understand your point. I was just pointing out that there is a way (extending those short turns) to terminate trains at Atlantic and not cut frequency if they really wanted to (but who would?) 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fresh Pond Posted March 20, 2016 Share #860 Posted March 20, 2016 (edited) Ironically, that is why that could be re-built to four or six tracks. Do you realize the massive amount of track reconfiguration you would have to do now? Its not that long of a distance to Atlantic from the Junction, and you have the yard lead & Jamaica leads to worry about/work around. Edited March 20, 2016 by Fresh Pond 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wallyhorse Posted March 20, 2016 Share #861 Posted March 20, 2016 But what would you gain with a six-tracked Atlantic Av? Sure, you have the capacity for a couple of one-off reroutes, but the fact remains that most of that structure was basically abandoned with the closure of the Fulton St elevated back in '56. It would more likely be four tracks, not six, unless you want to dedicate two tracks there for storage. This also would allow for a Broadway-Brooklyn service (whether via Nassau or 6th Avenue) to run from Canarsie while the is truncated to Atlantic Avenue to better service the much more heavily traveled portion of the line (with a cross-platform transfer between the two lines at Atlantic Avenue for those from Canarsie that need such if four tracks). The idea would be with a Broadway-Brooklyn line running to Canarsie, ALL service would end at Atlantic Avenue (except perhaps overnights when both could run there). 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trainfanrod Posted March 20, 2016 Share #862 Posted March 20, 2016 The MTA needs to up service on the on weekends if the not running to peak numbers like utica already has a lot of people so does dyre line 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Metro CSW Posted March 20, 2016 Share #863 Posted March 20, 2016 It would more likely be four tracks, not six, unless you want to dedicate two tracks there for storage. This also would allow for a Broadway-Brooklyn service (whether via Nassau or 6th Avenue) to run from Canarsie while the is truncated to Atlantic Avenue to better service the much more heavily traveled portion of the line (with a cross-platform transfer between the two lines at Atlantic Avenue for those from Canarsie that need such if four tracks). The idea would be with a Broadway-Brooklyn line running to Canarsie, ALL service would end at Atlantic Avenue (except perhaps overnights when both could run there). Sure, just take away the one seat ride from Canarsie to Midtown Manhattan. That will make things a lot simpler.... Smh. Just take away from the propose of the reason why the platforms are abandon and the tracks demoed in the first place. It's not like it's that busy South down to Canarsie. Ooy voy.... Sent from my SM-G920P using Tapatalk 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
P3F Posted March 20, 2016 Share #864 Posted March 20, 2016 Do you realize the massive amount of track reconfiguration you would have to do now? Yes, I believe everyone "realizes". The rest of us aren't as stupid as you make us out to be, y'know. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CenSin Posted March 20, 2016 Share #865 Posted March 20, 2016 Sure, just take away the one seat ride from Canarsie to Midtown Manhattan. That will make things a lot simpler.... Smh. Just take away from the propose of the reason why the platforms are abandon and the tracks demoed in the first place. It's not like it's that busy South down to Canarsie. Ooy voy.... Sent from my SM-G920P using Tapatalk The doesn’t go to midtown, so it’s already not a one-seat ride. But Wallyhorse’s Broadway-Brooklyn line will go to midtown; and that would be a one-seat ride. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
richardye1 Posted March 20, 2016 Share #866 Posted March 20, 2016 The doesn’t go to midtown, so it’s already not a one-seat ride. But Wallyhorse’s Broadway-Brooklyn line will go to midtown; and that would be a one-seat ride. !!?? doesn't the and go to downtown?. Transferring to an uptown service via these brown lines are sometimes annoying 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Metro CSW Posted March 20, 2016 Share #867 Posted March 20, 2016 !!?? doesn't the and go to downtown?. Transferring to an uptown service via these brown lines are sometimes annoyingSigh.... he was referring to the possibility of the .... Sent from my SM-G920P using Tapatalk 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fresh Pond Posted March 20, 2016 Share #868 Posted March 20, 2016 The doesn’t go to midtown, so it’s already not a one-seat ride. But Wallyhorse’s Broadway-Brooklyn line will go to midtown; and that would be a one-seat ride. Midtown generally consists of everything from 14-59 Sts, river to river. And what about the people who take the to go to areas like Williamsburg, Ridgewood, & Bushwick (Wyckoff Hospital, Myrtle-Wyckoff, etc.) Under his plan, people south of Atlantic are now subjected to a 2 seat ride to get there, compared to a straightforward ride there. ...and that's not counting people who go to Middle Village and whatnot, since now they would have to take 3 trains just to get there. His plan robs Peter, Luke, & Matthew, just to pay Paul 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paulrivera Posted March 29, 2016 Share #869 Posted March 29, 2016 The weekend of April 9th is going to royally suck if you're in Lower Manhattan. No , no , no , no , no . But hey, you'll get the ! And the night owls get the ! There's a and switcheroo that weekend too ("blue D" and "orange E"), but they'll both terminate in Lower Manhattan. Trust me, if you're coming into Lower Manhattan from Brooklyn, you'll be much better off walking the Brooklyn Bridge. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S78 via Hylan Posted March 29, 2016 Share #870 Posted March 29, 2016 The weekend of April 9th is going to royally suck if you're in Lower Manhattan. No , no , no , no , no . But hey, you'll get the ! And the night owls get the ! There's a and switcheroo that weekend too ("blue D" and "orange E"), but they'll both terminate in Lower Manhattan. Trust me, if you're coming into Lower Manhattan from Brooklyn, you'll be much better off walking the Brooklyn Bridge. To add to those changes, the is supposed to be running via the West End Line which is not good for me since I have to take an exam on that Sunday, April 10th. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Around the Horn Posted March 29, 2016 Share #871 Posted March 29, 2016 The weekend of April 9th is going to royally suck if you're in Lower Manhattan. No , no , no , no , no . But hey, you'll get the ! And the night owls get the ! There's a and switcheroo that weekend too ("blue D" and "orange E"), but they'll both terminate in Lower Manhattan. Trust me, if you're coming into Lower Manhattan from Brooklyn, you'll be much better off walking the Brooklyn Bridge. The is running though? I sure hope that they don't pull the service change from last weekend... 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Around the Horn Posted March 29, 2016 Share #872 Posted March 29, 2016 Planned Service Changes for: Saturday, April 2, 2016 No trains between Franklin Av and Flatbush Av Woodlawn-bound trains skip 51, 68, 77, 96, 103, 110 and 116 Sts New Lots Av-bound trains skip Astor Pl, Bleecker St, Spring St and Canal St No trains between E 180 St and Dyre Av Trains run every 20 minutes between E 180 St and Bowling Green Pelham Bay Park-bound trains skip 51, 68, 77, 96, 103, 110 and 116 Sts Brooklyn Bridge-bound trains skip Astor Pl, Bleecker St, Spring St and Canal St Brooklyn Bridge-bound trains skip Longwood Av, E 149 St, E 143 St, Cypress Av and Brook Av No trains between Queensboro Plaza and Times Sq-42 St Flushing-bound trains skip 33, 40, 46, 52 and 69 Sts Trains run via the in both directions between W 4 St and Jay St-MetroTech Trains make local stops in both directions at 163 St, 155 St and 135 St Trains make local stops in both directions at 23 St and 50 St Trains run via the in both directions between W 4 St and Jay St-MetroTech No trains between 145 St and 168 St trains provide alternate service Trains stop at 135 St in both directions Coney Island-bound platform at Ditmas Av is closed for renovation Coney Island-bound trains skip 4 Av-9 St, 15 St-Prospect Park and Fort Hamilton Pkwy Take the instead Jamaica-bound trains skip 14 St and 23 St 42 Street Shuttle service operates overnight No trains between Myrtle-Wyckoff Avs and Rockaway Pkwy Service is extended to Ditmars Blvd Trains board at the Tottenville-bound platform from Grasmere to Tompkinsville Stations 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Around the Horn Posted March 29, 2016 Share #873 Posted March 29, 2016 It looks like they'll finally complete installing tactile warning strips on the Manhattan bound track at 59 Street that weekend too(the 9th). trains are running over the and shuttles are running on the local track. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daniel The Cool Posted March 29, 2016 Share #874 Posted March 29, 2016 It looks like they'll finally complete installing tactile warning strips on the Manhattan bound track at 59 Street that weekend too(the 9th). trains are running over the and shuttles are running on the local track. The Shuttle usually runs on the local track when the goes via West End. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Around the Horn Posted March 29, 2016 Share #875 Posted March 29, 2016 The Shuttle usually runs on the local track when the goes via West End. trains are local in Brooklyn all weekend. Wouldn't that conflict? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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