Hurricane Sandy: Before and After the Storm: Subway service

[paulrivera]

Handle that post? You got it

 

http://www.mta.info/status/1

 

Couldn't have said any better. And that's no joke.

 

[RtrainBlues]

I doubt it, just like they wouldn't do it for the Q, L, G, or any other line that is suspended. Customers would need to walk or take a local bus to the nearest subway, which in case of the #7 line would be an F local train. Or I think the LIRR will be free along the Main Street branch tomorrow if you live near Woodside or Willets Point.

[R36 Preservation]

Yeah, the 7 line is in a lot of trouble right now, between the tube being flooded and a lot of signal damage on the el (yeah yeah, the same signaling system they're trying to upgrade. shut up).

Any updates on Corona Yard? It is located in a low lying flood zone and one map showed the whole Flushing Meadows flooded.

[IntExp]

SAS is reporting that all subways, buses, and commuter rail fares are free for today (Thursday) and Friday.

[Snowblock]

Corona is fine. When it got renovated a couple years ago, it got rebuilt higher for that purpose. Problems with the 7 are signal damage and the flooded tube. It is unknown how long it will take to get the signals back online, but don't expect anything before this weekend...

[w8Hou]

BROOKLYN - MANHATTAN SUBWAY SHUTTLE BUS STOPS:

 

Buses will depart from the Atlantic Av-Barclays Center LIRR, Jay St-MetroTech and Hewes St/Broadway . and will run along the Bowery and 3rd Avenue (contra-flow)

 

The buses will stop at

---Delancey St/Bowery (northbound), Spring St/Bowery (southbound).

 

--- 9th St

 

--- 14th St

 

--- 23rd St

 

--- 33rd St

 

--- 42nd St

 

--- 54th St.

 

----before turning around to 57th St

from: http://transportationnation.org/2012/10/31/partial-ny-commuter-rail-back-today-some-subway-service-tomorrow/

[Wallyhorse]

WHAT crossover south of Rector??? That was removed when the new terminal opened.

 

And for the record, the reason I've "been so quiet" tonight is I've been underground at Main St at work. Don't count on seeing ANY 7 service this week....

 

Did not know that. It was on the track map I had (which I use whenever I do a "what if" scenario in that thread).

 

VERY stupid to remove that crossover, it would have come in very handy once lower Manhattan gets power back and trains can go to lower Manhattan.

 

If anything, one of the improvements I would make post-Sandy is to add MANY more crossovers to allow for greater flexibility of service in the event of emergencies or otherwise. While I don't expect to ever see another Sandy, there will be emergencies, G.O.'s, etc., and that will allow for greater flexabilities when those happen.

[m7zanr160s]

I'm thinking, no Far Rockaway service until, at least, January.

[w8Hou]

I'm thinking, no Far Rockaway service until, at least, January.

 

January is a miracle if they fix the washouts, rebuild the tracks, bridges, signals, etc.

 

You could compare it to the Port Jervis line rebuild. It is likely 4 to 6 months.... temporarily service; short term outlook. They need all the resources to get.

[91 Line]

VERY stupid to remove that crossover, it would have come in very handy once lower Manhattan gets power back and trains can go to lower Manhattan.

 

There were plans (which went as far as evaluating different structural alternatives and trackwork layouts) to construct a single crossover, or a diamond, on a local track just south of existing Chambers St station. That would've been more practical alternative to having Rector St crossover.

[91 Line]

I'm thinking, no Far Rockaway service until, at least, January.

 

Maybe earlier, it all depends how much repair work they have to do on other lines. Bring ballast, tamp it, align track, system testing - in two month's time they should be able to do it.

[w8Hou]

Gov. Cuomo press release on Declaring Transportation Emergency:

Governor Cuomo Declares Transportation Emergency

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Fares On All Mass Transit To Be Suspended For Thursday and Friday

 

 

Limited LIRR service between Jamaica and Penn Station Restored Tonight, Limited Service on Port Washington and Ronkonkoma Lines Restored for Morning Rush; Metro-North Restores Additional Service to Stamford and Mount Kisco on Thursday

 

 

 

Albany, NY (October 31, 2012)

 

Governor Andrew M. Cuomo tonight declared a transportation emergency for the storm affected region. In addition, the Governor, joined by MTA Chairman and CEO Joseph Lhota, announced that fares on all mass transit, including buses, subways, Metro North and Long Island railroads and Access-A-Ride, will be suspended for Thursday, November 1 and Friday, November 2. In addition announced that the MTA has restored limited Long Island Rail Road (LIRR) service between Jamaica and Penn Station tonight and Metro-North Railroad will restore additional service from Grand Central Terminal to Stamford and Mount Kisco on Thursday.

 

 

 

“The gridlock we experienced today shows that the New York metropolitan region is in a transportation emergency,” Governor Cuomo said.

 

 

 

New York City buses ran normal service all day, Metro-North and LIRR ran limited service in the afternoon, and the New York City subway will begin offering limited service at 6 a.m. Thursday.

 

 

 

“We want to get people back to work, but we are asking our customers for patience and understanding as they confront crowding and long lines as we repair our system,” said MTA Chairman and CEO Joseph J. Lhota. “Be flexible about your travel times. We have come a long way in a short time to repair the damage from the most devastating event to strike our transportation system.”

 

 

 

LIMITED LIRR SERVICE RESTORED

 

 

 

The LIRR has implemented hourly service between Jamaica Station and Penn Station. The LIRR expects to restore limited hourly service on Ronkonkonma Branch and on the Port Washington Branch from Great Neck for Thursday’s morning rush. There will be no stops during peak periods at Kew Gardens and Forest Hills – these stops will only be made during the off-peak. At 6:45 PM tonight, Penn Station opened to customers.

 

 

 

Earlier today, the LIRR restored limited, hourly service between Jamaica and Atlantic Terminal, Brooklyn. In conjunction with the restored Jamaica-Brooklyn service, beginning tomorrow, customers will be able to connect to shuttle buses from Barclays Center (adjacent to the LIRR’s Atlantic Terminal) to Manhattan. Customers heading to downtown Manhattan should travel to Penn. The special buses running from Barclays Center in Brooklyn are dropping customers off in midtown, not downtown.

 

 

 

All trains leaving Jamaica to Atlantic Terminal and Penn Station tonight will follow the same times, which is at 10 minutes after the hour until 11:10 PM. After that time, all trains to Atlantic and Penn Station will leave at 45 minutes after the hour.

 

 

 

Schedules for the Service Restorations are below:

 

 

 

http://www.governor.ny.gov/assets/documents/RonkonkomaBrooklynTT_Nov1.pdf

 

 

 

http://www.governor.ny.gov/assets/documents/PortWashingtonTT_Nov1.pdf

 

 

 

LIRR employees have been working around the clock to restore as much service as possible on the LIRR’s four main branches – Port Washington, Ronkonkoma, Babylon, and Huntington. The LIRR’s primary obstacle to restoring service is restoration of power at its substations along its branches that feed the third rail. More than 20 substations remain without power. The LIRR has been in close contact with LIPA to coordinate work crews on this priority.

 

 

 

Two of four East River tunnels remain flooded and cannot be used at this time. In restoring the limited LIRR service to Penn Station, the LIRR will only be able to use two of four tunnels, which they share with Amtrak and NJ Transit.

 

 

 

Ronkonkoma Branch: Limited Hourly Service to be Restored for AM Rush Thursday

 

The LIRR will be restoring limited, hourly train service from Ronkonkoma to Penn Station for tomorrow morning's rush hour (Thursday, 11/1) starting at 5:37 AM. The restored Ronkonkoma Branch trains will not be stopping at Merillon Avenue, New Hyde Park, Westbury, and Carle Place.

 

 

 

Port Washington Branch: Limited Hourly Service from Great Neck to be Restored for AM Rush Thursday

 

Limited, hourly shuttle train service from Great Neck to Penn Station will be restored on the Port Washington Branch for tomorrow morning's rush hour (Thursday, 11/1) starting at 5:45 AM. Customers advised to be dropped off at the Great Neck Station, as limited parking is available.

 

 

 

LIRR Customers Should Anticipate Crowding

 

Because service will be limited, waits will be longer and trains will be more crowded. Customers are advised to consider changing their normal routines to travel later in the morning or later in the evening. Customers should anticipate crowded conditions on all LIRR trains that run until more service is restored. For safety reasons, some trains may be required to skip stations if they become overcrowded. Customers may have to wait for the next train. The LIRR will make every effort to add additional trains whenever possible.

 

 

 

LIRR Fare Policy During Hurricane Sandy Recovery Period

 

Off Peak fares will be in effect on all LIRR trains until full service is restored. No onboard penalty fares will be charged. All LIRR customers are advised to hold onto their current monthly and weekly tickets; they will remain valid for travel through Monday, November 5.

 

 

 

For More Information

 

The LIRR will provide Service Advisories around the clock, as required. Customers should monitor news reports, the MTA website, www.mta.info, and sign up for free E-Alerts for updates on LIRR service. Customers can also contact the LIRR's Travel Information Center by calling 511, the New York State Travel Information Line, and say: Long Island Rail Road. If you are deaf or hard of hearing, use your preferred relay service provider for the free 711 relay to reach LIRR at 511.

 

 

 

METRO-NORTH LIMITED SERVICE RESTORED

 

 

 

Starting Thursday, November 1, close to regularly scheduled service will be provided on the Harlem Line between Mount Kisco and Grand Central Terminal and on the New Haven Line between Stamford and Grand Central Terminal. This will provide service to about half the customers usually served on a weekday.

 

 

 

Hudson Line service will remain suspended due to extensive storm damage.

 

 

 

Service on the Port Jervis and Pascack Valley Lines, which are operated by NJ TRANSIT, remains suspended. NJT continues to work toward service restoration. See www.njtransit.com for updates.

 

 

 

Hudson and West-of-Hudson tickets will be honored on Harlem Line trains.

 

 

 

Customers should expect crowded trains. Parking will be limited. Because not all tracks have been returned to service, bridgeplates may be used to board trains at some New Haven Line stations. Customers should use caution getting on and off trains. In addition, power has not been restored to all station platforms. Generators are in place to provide lighting. Not all ticket vending machines will be operational.

 

 

 

In addition, customers should be aware that there is no subway service south of 42nd Street. Customers can take the following buses downtown: M5 at Fifth Ave. and West 42nd Street; M15 at Second Ave. and E. 42nd Street; and the M103 at Lexington Avenue and E. 42nd St. See http://www.mta.info/status/1 for more information on subway and bus service.

 

 

 

All Metro-North customers should hold onto their October monthly and weekly tickets; they will be valid for travel through Monday, November 5.

 

 

 

Before service can be restored to other areas of the railroad, there are a number of challenges that must be addressed.

 

 

 

The right-of-way on the Upper Harlem Line to Wassaic has been cleared of trees but two critical substations near Bedford Hills and Katonah were flooded and are not operating. We are working with the power supplier, New York State Electric and Gas Company, to get these critical substations on line as soon as possible.

 

 

 

Damage on the New Haven Line between Stamford and New Haven remains significant. Numerous trees have to be removed and catenary and signal wire has to be rehung in numerous sections along the route. All the controls for moveable bridges were submerged during the storm; they must be fully inspected and repairs made. Additionally, there is significant catenary damage at a critical switching location in the area of Fairfield. Service also remains suspended on all three branch lines, New Canaan, Danbury and Waterbury. Work crews still have a tremendous amount of work to do removing trees and restoring power in those areas as well.

 

 

 

The Hudson Line has also been hard hit. It will remain out of service Thursday due to extensive storm-related damage from flooding, fallen trees and power outages.

 

 

 

Major issues include:

 

 

 

There are several water-damaged substations on the Hudson Line.

 

Washouts that have undermined the track structure so greatly it is unsafe to operate trains across those sections; One section alone between Croton-Harmon and Cortlandt will require up to 8 rail cars of ballast stone to repair;

 

Third rail damage in several areas caused by fallen trees;

 

Debris along the right of way still needs to be cleared.

 

 

 

The railroad’s employees will continue to work hard to restore service for all customers as quickly and safely as possible.

 

 

 

Until full service is restored to all lines, customers should expect some delays and crowding on trains and should stagger their travel times.

 

 

 

Continue to check www.mta.info, listen to news media reports and listen for announcements at stations and onboard trains.

 

 

 

Metro-North employees have been working around the clock to remove fallen trees, repair damaged overhead catenary wires, broken third rail and damaged electrical components, including substations and the signal system.

 

 

 

BUS BRIDGE ESTABLISHED FROM BROOKLYN

 

 

 

The MTA and the New York City Department of Transportation have established routes for a bus bridge service and dedicated bus priority lanes from three Brooklyn locations to Midtown Manhattan.

 

 

 

Starting Thursday, Nov. 1 at 6 a.m., MTA/NYCT shuttle buses will travel to and from subway stations at Atlantic Avenue, Jay Street and Hewes Street.

 

 

 

The Atlantic Avenue and Jay Street routes will operate via a new, two-way bus lane across the Manhattan Bridge and into Manhattan via bus-priority lanes on Bowery and 3rd Avenue, making stops at major cross streets all the way up to 55th Street in the inbound direction, and via bus-priority lanes on Lexington Avenue, 23rd Street, and 3rd Avenue and Bowery in the outbound direction.

 

 

 

The shuttle bus from Hewes Street will operate over the Williamsburg Bridge and Delancey Street, then via Bowery and 3rd Avenue up to 55th Street before returning downtown via Lexington Avenue, 23rd Street, 3rd Avenue and Bowery.

 

 

 

NYPD will provide enforcement along the bus route and keep the lanes clear for buses.

The bus service will operate 24 hours until further notice.

http://www.governor.ny.gov/press/10312012transportationemergency

 

[BreeddekalbL]

Anyone know anything regarding 207th on the A and the 46's stranded there?

[Snowblock]

All of those unofficial track maps are full of mistakes.

 

Even the Nov 1 OFFICIAL service map has an interesting mistake (?), apparently the will be running a non-stop shuttle from E180 to 138-GC!!!!

[67thAve]

If the West Hempstead Branch is heavily damaged, I bet the MTA will probably just not fix it and close it up.... If they close it, allow me to be the first one to start a riot because of it.

[Wallyhorse]

Now I understand why his username is Wallyhorse.

 

Yes, that is horse racing.

 

One of the things I work on is what we call the Price and Probability method, for which there is a sheet for Friday's Breeders' Cup program at Santa Anita available (via the message board I'm a moderator of, this is a one-time only plug for it).

[RailBus63]

If the West Hempstead Branch is heavily damaged, I bet the MTA will probably just not fix it and close it up.... If they close it, allow me to be the first one to start a riot because of it.

 

 

Doubtful. They'll fix it, but it will likely be lower on the priority list than most other lines.

[Eric B]

Because they have to relay the train on the middle track at Marcy Ave.

 

They do the same thing when trains aren't running over the Bridge.

 

But it would be easier to turn in Marcy. There is no need to relay and put everyone off; the T/O just change ends to go back the other way. And the less time on the bus in the streets, the better. Even that one stop makes a difference, with all the traffic congestion. And the bus terminal is at Marcy.

 

During the '99 shutdown for the rebuilding of the bridge, they used Marcy. Also, some unplanned shutdowns, like when the power is out for a couple of hours. I don't know why they don't now. IF they did that, you could use one side for the and the other for the also.

 

Also, anyone think this is real:

[6 Lexington Ave]

But it would be easier to turn in Marcy. There is no need to relay and put everyone off; the T/O just change ends to go back the other way. And the less time on the bus in the streets, the better. Even that one stop makes a difference, with all the traffic congestion. And the bus terminal is at Marcy.

 

During the '99 shutdown for the rebuilding of the bridge, they used Marcy. Also, some unplanned shutdowns, like when the power is out for a couple of hours. I don't know why they don't now. IF they did that, you could use one side for the and the other for the also.

 

Also, anyone think this is real:

 

 

No.

[Wallyhorse]

Also, anyone think this is real:

 

 

I doubt it unless it's an old picture because it says Broadway-Nassau Street and that station has since been renamed Fulton Street.

[Drag0nflamez]

But it would be easier to turn in Marcy. There is no need to relay and put everyone off; the T/O just change ends to go back the other way. And the less time on the bus in the streets, the better. Even that one stop makes a difference, with all the traffic congestion. And the bus terminal is at Marcy.

 

During the '99 shutdown for the rebuilding of the bridge, they used Marcy. Also, some unplanned shutdowns, like when the power is out for a couple of hours. I don't know why they don't now. IF they did that, you could use one side for the and the other for the also.

 

Also, anyone think this is real:

 

Not real, but the artist who drew it is certainly talented.

[Brooklyn]

I wonder what is happening with the train?

 

If they got that back online fast, that would be HUGE. That would help solve a lot of problems...

 

You have a means to get to both the 60th and 63rd street tunnels into Manhattan.

 

The people being funneled into Downtown Brooklyn would get some relief.

 

In a situation like this, the purpose of the becomes extremely clear (not going into Manhattan).

 

I hope they'll be able to get that operational soon.

[Abba]

They extended the 2 and 3 one stop to Penn Station.I think earlier they were going to terminate at Times Square

[nostalgia]

They extended the 2 and 3 one stop to Penn Station.I think earlier they were going to terminate at Times Square

 

 

I think the plan was always to terminate at Penn Station. That's where they terminate for FastTrack. I think the confusion is that the Lex Line terminates at 42nd Street but the 7th Ave line terminates at 34th.

[TwoTimer]

its possible there might have been some power issues at penn that have been corrected. also, the j tubes were done first not because of UES but because the IRT is completely cut off. the B division can go over the bridge once power is restored