RollOver Posted November 3, 2012 Share #476 Posted November 3, 2012 Those riders on the Lefferts Blvd branch are probably like at the shorten headway's they will have over the next month. Not to mention that the Rockaways is a small neighborhood compared to Broad Channel. Both are smaller islands but have ridership on the subway stations themselves. No wonder ridership there are at the bottom at the barrel outside of the summer and rush hours. I think the should always run at 10 minute headways on the Lefferts branch or if that will ever be... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sovetskii52 Posted November 3, 2012 Share #477 Posted November 3, 2012 Unbelievable pictures. It's like a war happened along the line. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tokkemon Posted November 3, 2012 Share #478 Posted November 3, 2012 They call that 80% of the system?! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
checkmatechamp13 Posted November 3, 2012 Share #479 Posted November 3, 2012 It sure did. I attempted to take the or into Manhattan. I bailed out at Roosevelt Island after the train I was on kept stopping and crawling after Steinway. But I expected it to be that way. Yeah, the same thing happened to me last night. We're moving along nicely until about 36th Street or so, and then suddenly service slows to a crawl. I'm like "f**k, this couldn't happen at Lexington Avenue?". At least there, I'd have options (I mean, at Steinway Street I could wait for the Q101, but that would likely take longer than the subway). I intended to get off at Herald Square and catch the X17 at 5th & 32nd, but I bailed at Lexington & 63rd. Yeah... I'm so pissed I wasn't online to see that... f-in cra*kers... :LOOL: What makes it so hilarious is the fact that I think this is one of the most diverse communities I know. I'm still LMAO at QJT's accidental comment. It's not just him. There are a bunch of posters here who are armchair experts and want to argue with me every time I give an update....which honestly, is deterring me from even wanting to post here anymore. But to answer the question, there were flooding issues in the infamous Malbone St tunnel just north of Prospect Park station and unfortunately it just isn't on the priority list of areas to pump yet. Damn, that sucks. I guess the crossover south of Prospect Park can't be used then. It would be nice if there was another crossover on the line. There's one south of Kings Highway, so I guess theoretically, you could run Kings Highway-Brighton Beach service, but that really wouldn't help a lot of people (well, I guess if the yard is flooded there's no way to get equipment to that line anyway). Are there shuttle buses in that area? Or do riders have to try and make their way to other lines? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
w8Hou Posted November 3, 2012 Share #480 Posted November 3, 2012 Well its now 84% of the system.... Subways Back to 84 Percent Monday Morning, But No L or G-Train Service Until Sometime Next Week So the MTA has done an unbelievable job restoring subway service after so much of the system was knocked out following Superstorm Sandy. Even MTA chief Joe Lhota said as much this morning at a press briefing. “I’m really proud of the MTA for coming back as fast as it did,” he said standing outside the 69th Regimental Armory. “It exceeded most of the public’s expectation and it exceeded my expectations, too. I didn’t think I’d be standing here today telling you we’d be at 81 percent.” Service will be back to 84 percent by Monday, covering most of Lower Manhattan with many lines fully restored. In addition to the and -train resuming full service this morning, the lines will all be back later today. The -train will be back, as well, from Astoria all the way to storm-ravaged Coney Island. The will resume full service between Brooklyn and the Bronx tonight or tomorrow. Thanks to the resumption of subway service, the MTA will stop running the bus bridge that has been bringing Brooklynites into Manhattan Saturday afternoon. By Monday, the -train will resume service from Jamaica to the World Trade Center and the train will run from Astoria to 59th Street in Sunset Park though service beyond there will not be back. The -train will also resume service downtown, from 168th Street in Harlem to Lefferts Boulevard/Ozone Park in Queens. The -train will be running to Rector Street but not South Ferry, where photos of flooding have been a sensation on the Internet. “We should be back to close to full service in time for the commute Monday morning,” Mr. Lhota said. Trains to the Rockaways are still months away, due to destruction on the Broad Channel crossing, as The Observer previously reported. And North Brooklyn and their hipster-beloved trains remain out of luck—there will be no service on the or the trains until those lines can be pumped out at some point next week. “The , I’m particularly worried about because of how long the water is,” Mr. Lhota said. “My hope is it’s one day next week, I really do.” The MTA is pointing to restored and service into Manhattan as an alternative route for North Brooklynites into the city. There are other outlying sections of the train without service, like the piece of the -train in Washington Heights and Inwood north of the 168th Street station. The system now has full power, and it is only residual flooding that is holding stations back from opening. “As of Friday night, we had 60 percent of our system up and running, by tonight we’re adding another 21 percent, so we’ll be at 81 percent, and by Monday, we’ll only have 16 percent to go,” Mr. Lhota said. The system has been coming back “inch by inch, rail by rail,” Mr. Lhota added. Update: An MTA spokesman just provided the following explanation for why the MTA has yet to be able to provide at least partial service along the and lines within Brooklyn where the tracks are not flooded: “The answer on the is that it’s impossible to turn trains around easily mid-route for a Brooklyn shuttle service,” Mr. Lisberg wrote in an email. “Very difficult to set up because of the track layout. They may try now that other lines are getting better service, but that’s just a discussion at this point. As for the , enough of it is parallel to other lines—plus the naturally low ridership.” http://observer.com/2012/11/subways-back-to-84-percent-monday-morning-but-no-l-or-g-train-service-until-sometime-next-week/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RTOMan Posted November 3, 2012 Share #481 Posted November 3, 2012 I can see it now: The runs limited service 242-New Lots, but the headways will be long not because of capacity, but because their crews would be busy filing greivances and booking sick. All the extra-extras fresh out of school car would be on the and it still wouldnt be enough Might not be happening they can use the loop to turn trains.. Please kill that Zoolots Idea folks.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quill Depot Posted November 3, 2012 Share #482 Posted November 3, 2012 Why wouldn't the run to New Lots. The to New Lots is complicated. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paulrivera Posted November 3, 2012 Share #483 Posted November 3, 2012 Might not be happening they can use the loop to turn trains.. Please kill that Zoolots Idea folks.... So it's just a matter of getting power down there and the 1 can run through there? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
w8Hou Posted November 3, 2012 Share #484 Posted November 3, 2012 90 percent by Sunday: Mayor Bloomberg's press conference on subway; youtube @ 1:00:03.... Transcript: "Almost all MTA subway service has been restored — around 80 percent of the system. The MTA has said that that should be up to 90 percent by tomorrow. Most subway lines are fully operational including lines running under the East River between Brooklyn and Manhattan, as well as between Queens and Manhattan. There are a couple of subway lines that remain affected and that's partially because of two East River subway tunnels that still have some flooding. Specifically the Montague Tunnel which serves the N R line and the 14th Street Tunnel which serves the N, R and L. And in coordination with the Army Corps of Engineers and city and state transportation workers, we've actively been pumping water out of those tunnels as well as the other tunnels still affected by flooding. The Brooklyn-Battery Tunnel, the Queens-Midtown Tunnel, Jersey City PATH Train Tunnel and Battery Exchange Tunnel — work is going around the clock, we will keep you posted. But I did want to point out that because the MTA did take proactive preparations before the storm and move their equipment out of harm's way, as soon as we got the tunnels pumped out, checked the rails and the signaling, they could go right back to work. If they had not done that you could be out of service for a very long period of time." Read more: http://www.businessinsider.com/bloomberg-mta-subway-service-2012-11#ixzz2BCnELMpu Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trainfan22 Posted November 4, 2012 Share #485 Posted November 4, 2012 The line is still using at least one set of R62s even though its running the full route, seen one in Manhattan this evening. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eric B Posted November 4, 2012 Share #486 Posted November 4, 2012 “The answer on the is that it’s impossible to turn trains around easily mid-route for a Brooklyn shuttle service,” Mr. Lisberg wrote in an email. “Very difficult to set up because of the track layout. They may try now that other lines are getting better service, but that’s just a discussion at this point. They have shuttle service as far as Lorimer all the time. Unless the flooding goes that far back. And then, there's still Myrtle, which is also used as a terminal in G.O's. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
w8Hou Posted November 4, 2012 Share #487 Posted November 4, 2012 A HUGE update on the service.... Service Change Posted: 11/03/2012 8:08PM NYC Transit began implementing limited subway service as follows: trains operate between Jamaica Center and Essex Street, making all local stops. train service is suspended. For service to and from Manhattan shuttle bus is available at Hewes Street. ---------------------------------------------------------------- problems on the ... Service Change Posted: 11/03/2012 8:05PM Due to mechanical problems at 59 St, Downtown trains are terminating at Queensboro Plz. Please expect delays in train service in both directions at this time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aemoreira81 Posted November 4, 2012 Share #488 Posted November 4, 2012 Why wouldn't the run to New Lots. The to New Lots is complicated. The way the tracks are set up, once the IRT West Side can run again Chambers and north, it would make sense to run the 1 to New Lots since running the 4 requires a crossover and you have to turn the 1 around somewhere. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alejr88 Posted November 4, 2012 Share #489 Posted November 4, 2012 So, the Lexington line is back in service. Hmm...I guess that means an R62 in the Bronx... I saw 2 sets of R62 trains when I passed by River Avenue. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aemoreira81 Posted November 4, 2012 Share #490 Posted November 4, 2012 BTW, if Whitehall is flooded, I would run the as a shuttle from midtown to Astoria (as it is right now) and the to Bay Ridge over the bridge. The only other suitable turnaround if the Sea Beach is unavailable is 9 Avenue. If the Brighton is available, but the Sea Beach is not, suspend the and run the instead. As for the Hewes Street shuttle, I'd delete it altogether and until the starts running again, add more M14A buses. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kamen Rider Posted November 4, 2012 Share #491 Posted November 4, 2012 The Q is back as far as Kings Highway, are you guys happy now? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Far Rock Depot Posted November 4, 2012 Share #492 Posted November 4, 2012 I just got back from rockaway after 3 days down there helping my mom. Let me tell you what's he deal with he train: The stations are fine. I saw everything from rock park to Mott ave. The reports here of their demise are greatly exaggerated. Seriously. As for the crossing, well, that is frakked! The North channel bridge is damaged. Some parts of the flats have no ground underneath the tracks. And there's lots of debris south of liberty ave. But the stations are fine. I saw them with my own eyes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
w8Hou Posted November 4, 2012 Share #493 Posted November 4, 2012 The Q is back as far as Kings Highway, are you guys happy now? MTA information... confusion. It still says suspended. But on the map its running... http://alert.mta.info/sites/default/files/pdf/hurricane_recovery_map_bw_Nov3_pm_QnoRDFJM.pdf Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RollOver Posted November 4, 2012 Share #494 Posted November 4, 2012 Well, the Brighton Local is the only option at the eastern side of Flatbash, Midwood, Gravesend, Sheepshead Bay, and Brighton Beach for subway riders there (expect where the end/start at Brooklyn College). That's one of the many reasons why it runs more frequently like say at its five to eight minute headways on weekdays. So yes, I'm happy for those residents there. Good thing the equalize ridership as the express too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mysterious2train Posted November 4, 2012 Share #495 Posted November 4, 2012 Having both the and , Astoria residents are very winning right now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nu1116 Posted November 4, 2012 Share #496 Posted November 4, 2012 Having both the and , Astoria residents are very winning right now. And Sea Beach riders will blame the MTA for being neglected... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paulrivera Posted November 4, 2012 Share #497 Posted November 4, 2012 They might as well merge the Astoria-34 St with the Pacific-95 St , or are we waiting for something else to happen? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RollOver Posted November 4, 2012 Share #498 Posted November 4, 2012 And Sea Beach riders will blame the MTA for being neglected... But the runs at 6 or 7 minute headways at rush hour and 10 minutes during middays, evenings, and weekends. The serve the same areas on the southwest side of Brooklyn but on different routes, so riders are attracted to them or whatever other reasons... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
checkmatechamp13 Posted November 4, 2012 Share #499 Posted November 4, 2012 Having both the and , Astoria residents are very winning right now. Yeah, I wonder why they did that. That's more than they usually get on the weekends. They'd be better off using those trainsets to do what aemoreira suggested and run the . That way you can at least get some express service on the QBL (Come to think about it, the QBL local riders are getting better service than usual, since normally they only have one local route) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nu1116 Posted November 4, 2012 Share #500 Posted November 4, 2012 But the runs at 6 or 7 minute headways at rush hour and 10 minutes during middays, evenings, and weekends. The serve the same areas on the southwest side of Brooklyn but on different routes, so riders are attracted to them or whatever other reasons... No, the suspension of the in Brooklyn will have a huge impact to those Chinese people living in the areas. The take them nowhere near Brooklyn's Chinatown... And buses are not reliable at all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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